Proud2BAmurkin
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:45 PM
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Do Edwards and Kerry say the outcome of the IWR fiasco was their fault OR BUSH'S? |
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Their answers are identical to Clintons
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:45 PM
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1. Both admitted their votes were mistakes. Your gal Hillary did not. n/t |
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:48 PM
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4. NONE of their votes were mistakes of theirs. SHIT HEAD president ABUSED the vote |
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:51 PM
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9. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. |
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IT WAS A FUCKING BLANK CHECK. IT WAS A TONKIN GULF RESOLUTION. AND THEY ALL KNEW IT. THEY KNEW. THEY WERE TOLD. PAT LEAHY SAID IN HIS FLOOR SPEECH BEFORE THE VOTE 5 TIMES THAT IT WAS A BLANK CHECK. IT'S JUST LYING BULLSHIT TO PRETEND THAT AN AUTHORIZATION TO USE MILITARY FORCE IS NOT A VOTE FOR WAR.
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:57 PM
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The title is "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq".
So, like, what did anyone expect to happen?
Kinda like the Presidential Daily Brief titled "bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US"... and look how THAT turned out when someone else thought it meant something other than what it says.
It's right there in the title.
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Thu Jan-31-08 11:01 PM
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14. EVERY SINGLE YES VOTE WAS THEIR MISTAKE |
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and they were made for political reasons - there is no way on God's green earth that John Kerry who came home from Viet Nam and led the veterans against that war should have voted for YES
there is no way any of them should have voted for IWR...they did it because a Congressional election was close at hand and some of them did it because they wanted to run for higher office - so in fact they were as spineless calculating ass holes.
the calls to Congress were overwhelmingly against them voting for it - how do I know because I called so many freaking members of the House and Senate and EVERY TIME I called I asked how are the calls running and every time I was told the calls against were much higher than the calls for - there were 100s of thousands of people in the street protesting this BEFORE it happened - I was one of them on more than one occasion
I KNEW there were no WMDs - and how did I know that - because Scott Ritter said so and I KNEW that GW Bush is a FUCKING LIAR knew it then know it now always knew it - do you remember Joe Biden wouldn't even let Scott Ritter testify....
Former Senator Bob Graham had the best reason for voting no - I heard him interviewed and he basically said he voted no because he knew Bush is a big freaking liar - now he said it way more diplomatically - but he knew and several other Senators knew and I knew and all the rest of them should have known too.
The night of the Senate IWR vote was one of the worst nights of my life and I say FUCK you to anyone of them who voted yes and can't even admit they were wrong after all the death and destruction - and for the record that does not mean I think Obama is cleared of this because I bet he would have done the same damn thing as Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Biden, Dodd etc etc etc if he had been in the Senate at the time.
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:46 PM
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Edwards admitted his mistake, Hillary did not and will not.
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:48 PM
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5. She won't call it HER mistake because it was HIS abuse of the IWR which was supposed to be leverage |
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:47 PM
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3. Kerry's reponse is more intelligent than Hillary's, who made her decision based on Condi Rice. n/t |
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:49 PM
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6. Still comes down to the fact that they made the right choice at the right time with |
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what they knew. They all erred in thinking SHITHEAD was sane.
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:52 PM
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10. They made the wrong choice |
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because they listened to Clinton Administration officials spew their war lies. Edwards has said that.
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:53 PM
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11. WRONG CHOICE. THE RIGHT CHOICE WAS TO VOTE AGAINST |
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THE VILE PIECE OF WARMONGERING CRAP. IT WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:53 PM
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12. WRONG CHOICE. THE RIGHT CHOICE WAS TO VOTE AGAINST |
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THE VILE PIECE OF WARMONGERING CRAP. IT WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:50 PM
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7. If they didn't lay the blame at Bush's feet they were wrong |
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He was the one who ignored the intent and requirements of the bill - as he always does (NSA, FISA, DOJ, etc.)
Let's remember who the real criminals are here.
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Thu Jan-31-08 10:51 PM
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8. Kerry accepts responsibility for the consequences |
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of his vote. He has also called for investigations into the DSM and the rest of the IWR intelligence failurs and lies.
Edwards says it was a mistake, and I don't know what else.
Hillary keeps defending it, defended the actual war for years, and only supported withdrawal when it was clear Democrts wouldn't accept any other position.
Democrats are being as duped by her as the right wingers have been by Bush. It's really pathetic.
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