Stephanie
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Thu Jan-31-08 11:06 PM
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Hillary Clinton Prevaricates on Iraq |
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Her vote was indefensible and she knows it so she lies about it. The truth is she was trying to cover herself in anticipation of running for president. She thought voting against the IWR would hurt her in the general election. She was wrong, voting FOR it hurt her, but she didn't know that then. Her vote was both incredibly calculating and a complete MIScalculation. That's why her answers on it now make no sense. She is not telling the truth.
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Stephanie
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Thu Jan-31-08 11:10 PM
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1. Everyone knew that if given the authorization Bush would shock and awe Iraq. |
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If she didn't know she's stupid and we know she's not stupid.
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:09 AM
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9. If you really think that, we need jail cells for Kerry, Edwards, Biden, Dodd... |
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if they truly "knew" that, as you describe, no amount of "I'm sorry" should keep them out of the Hague.
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:17 AM
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12. Clinton is going to clean up all the messes |
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by sweeping all illegality under the rug.
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Thu Jan-31-08 11:11 PM
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2. Those are all reasons - right or wrong - but no lies,,,,,nt |
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Thu Jan-31-08 11:13 PM
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3. LIES. She knew it was to authorize the war. |
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But she can't give the real reason, that it was a political calculation to help her in this race, so she lies and says she believed Bush. Give me a break. We all knew what that vote meant. So did she.
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Thu Jan-31-08 11:14 PM
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4. "A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq". |
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Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 11:18 PM by godai
Seems, from the title, pretty clear what was being authorized.
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Stephanie
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Thu Jan-31-08 11:21 PM
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5. That's why she makes no sense when asked that question. |
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She doesn't HAVE an answer. She CAN'T tell the truth on it.
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suston96
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:36 AM
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6. Yeah, but where is the lie? Post the words that are a lie. |
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You may think she gave reasons that are wrong but they are not lies.
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:54 AM
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7. Stop Hannity-ing this. A lie is in the intent. Have you read the USSC... |
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decision regarding Larry Flynt when he was sued by Falwell for defamation, over those cartoons in HUSTLER that said Falwell's first sexual experience was with his mother in an outhouse? Flynt WON that case because the USSC said that "the bar lies in this, would a reasonable person think that Jerry Falwell actually had sex with his own mother in an outhouse?" If not, then its satire and not a basis for defamation.
The SAME holds for Hillary and her war vote. Spin it any way you want, but would any REASONABLE, SENSIBLE person think that Bush would not invade and occupy Iraq given the Congressional approval to do it?
OF COURSE NOT.
What else you got?
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Stephanie
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:07 AM
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8. EVERY excuse that she gives is a lie because the TRUTH is she voted to protect herself. |
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It's ALL lies, every time she doesn't admit the truth on this question she is lying.
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:14 AM
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10. Ah, you didn't read her vote speech, eh? |
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"My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or for uni-lateralism, or for the arrogance of American power or purpose -- all of which carry grave dangers for our nation, for the rule of international law and for the peace and security of people throughout the world.
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So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him - use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein - this is your last chance - disarm or be disarmed."
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:16 AM
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11. It's disingenuous. It''s pure CYA. |
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She knew exactly what Bush was going to do with that power. We all knew. They had been planning it from the minute they took office. It's well documented. Was she stupid?
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:18 AM
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13. Sure is. And THAT'S how she would govern. |
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:55 AM
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14. And her line about "coercive diplomacy" has me a little concerned |
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whatever she meant by it. I hope she's asked to amplify on what she means at the next debate.
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