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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:09 PM
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Wow...Rachel Maddow just said she was personally insulted by Hillary's Defense RE:IWR
She also said that she cried when she heard Hillary was going to support the war. Rachel was not impressed with Hillary tonight.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:10 PM
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1. Well, so did I.
Both my senators betrayed me that day.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:10 PM
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3. And yet you support her.
Why?
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #3
24. Because she believes in her
Who expects to agree with every decision a political figure makes? That's not realistic at all.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:38 PM
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39. Well, I', personally insulted by Rachel's smearing.
Is this really going to be the job of media folks to now slime politoco they don't agree with?
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. Obama's Health Plan has Flaws
as does his Economic Plan
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #40
52. Obama's Economic plan has flaws? The Washington Post gave his an 'A', and Hillary's a 'C'.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #39
65. i did not expect from Rachel. beyond disappointing.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:10 PM
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2. Air America still bashing Hillary is see.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:21 PM
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17. Even Stephanie Miller spends her time bashing Dems. I stopped listening. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:05 AM
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64. i stopped listening also
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #64
75. I may be done with so called "progressive radio"...
after this primary.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:15 AM
Response to Reply #75
80. Progressive radio likes progressive candidates .. Hillary is DLC.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:14 AM
Response to Reply #17
79. Stephanie isn't bashing Dems .. she prefers Obama. Maybe that's your
objection.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:11 PM
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4. Interesting considering I thought she
was clearly pulling for Clinton throughout this primary
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:11 PM
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5. Rachel is just about as pure a Hillary hater as you can find.
That's the only thing I hold against her.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #5
19. Yep, she's never liked her...
she's always slamming her...nothing new...
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
36. how Rovian of you
referring to a critic as a 'hater' is right out of KKarl's playbook for dismissing dissent
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:36 PM
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38. You may want to read today's dailyhowler.com
He describes Rachel's "motive journalism" tactics rather well.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:18 AM
Response to Reply #38
81. OMG, a radio host with an opinion. I love Rachel Maddow.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:12 PM
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6. Who the hell is Rachel Maddow and why should I care?
I don't even know who this person is. I couldn't care less if she cried over whatever she's claiming she cried over.

:shrug:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. She's from Air America
and just got a full-time gig on MSNBC, I think it's full time
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #10
23. Thanks, bigwillq. I've never heard of her.
Thanks for answering my question.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:31 AM
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32. She has a PhD in Political Science, and it is a joy to watch her
rip up up Pat Buchanan, she seems to be opposite him quite often; and almost every time, she does a great job of portraying D's and Progressives as sane ond on top of things. Remarkably intelligent individual w/a great sense of humor...:D
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #32
63. Here, here. nm
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:15 AM
Response to Reply #32
72. she is good, but disappointed she is into dissing Dems in the primary.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #72
74. Well...just look what is happening here...
this is a contentious time for all around, DU has it's share of individuals that diss Dems.

Maddow is bringing up points that need to be discussed, as yet, there has been a lot of posturing, and little else from our candidates. Two of those who have dropped out, Richardson and Kucinich tried to bring issues to the forefront, and they did poorly, they did not get the press. Such is the way things go in election cycles.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #32
77. I thought she was one of the best before the primaries.
I still do now, but of course everyone sees my obama icon and just writes that off.

But she's always been pretty brilliant.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #77
84. I would love to see her and Coulter or Limbaugh in a debate...
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 01:43 PM by rasputin1952
it would be a bloodbath, as she would eviscerate either of them singly, and could take both of them on at the same time.

She is a phenominal person with a brilliant mind.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #6
33. Rachel is one of the good guys and has been out there in thw
war zone from day one for us.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #6
66. First of all she is brilliant and nice. I cried when the Democrats bowed down and kissed George F
Bush's feet and gave him dictatorial powers to preemptively invade a country. The Democrats that voted as Bush asked them let us down.Those Democrats have over a million dead, and climbing, on their head. Many of us cried then.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:12 PM
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7. She is also saying Obama "doesn't get it" currently on the war
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:14 PM
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9. Do you have more details as to what she means?
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:17 PM
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12. She said Obama wasn't perfect on Iraq either but that Hillary didn't talk about his inconsistencies
because she was "intimidated." :eyes:

I think she just didn't want things to get so negative and contentious before Feb. 5th. Neither of them did.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #12
62. what a bunch of crap. Hill intiminated by obamawhinybaby!! what the
heck is going on??
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #62
67. name-calling is so juvenile. n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #67
71. tsk tsk.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:14 PM
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8. Rachel Maddow is one of the biggest Hillary haters.
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 11:16 PM by LibraLiz1973
She acts like she loves Obama
but
truth be told...
I think shes a rethug

At the very least,
she is a closet rethug
in Democratic clothing.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. You are a fool
She is a "closet" rethug?

Give me a fucking break, god damned blind partisans
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. How so?
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 11:19 PM by LibraLiz1973
EVERY time I see her on MSNBC she is trashing the Democratic candidate.
She's rude and obnoxious.

I don't care if she's gay & is touted as a conservative basher...
she is a closet republican.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. I find your judgement to be foolish
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 11:20 PM by Moochy
a closet rethuglican? She's a Rhodes Scholar. She's Gay. She's awesome. We Disagree. Apologies for the post above this one. I just took your "closet" rethuglican the wrong way.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. You know nothing about my judgement. You have a problem with my OPINION.
Being a Rhodes Scholar does not mean that you can not be a Republican.

My opinion of her has been shaped entirely by her appearances on MSNBC.
She comes across sort of disgusted with the entire Dem party & the candidates.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #18
27. I think Rachel Maddow is brilliant. She's sharp-witted and a deep thinker who
expresses her opinions in a cogent and intelligent fashion.
She's as much a Republican as I'm a Bush supporter.

Can't wait for her to get her own show on MSNBC...
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. She is. But notice, it doesn't matter if it's Mother Teresa - the Hillary mob....
would turn against them in a heartbeat if they were critical of their candidate.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #34
44. She sux up to the anti Hillary NBC Corporate Mandate
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 04:48 PM by neutron
as does Andrea Mitchell, Matthews and strangely, even Olbermann.
You do what they tell you or you don't come back.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #44
47. Olbermann? OK, now you've lost any credibility you may have had.
Zippo.
Zilch.
Nada.
Nil.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:03 AM
Response to Reply #47
58. Me thinks neutron is a troll. nm
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:34 AM
Response to Reply #58
83. self deeeeelete
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 03:34 AM by ErnestoG
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #44
48. This is probably true
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #44
57. This person hates Olbermann and Maddow but supports Faux News. Figure it out. nm
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #57
68. Yeah. Quack!
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #44
59. Wow, can you do any more Freeper like alienations for us?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #34
54. 50 cents good, Caroline Kennedy bad.
roseanne good, Ted Kennedy bad..that about right? ;)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:47 AM
Response to Reply #27
76. I agree you don't have to agree with someone all of the time to
appreciate them.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #18
53. I'm disgusted with the entire Dem party and the candidates
Does that make me a closet republican? Sorry, I don't subscribe to blind loyalty, and I will criticize Dems when I feel they deserve it.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #13
49. It is becoming in-fucking-sane. Jesus would be a Freeper is he didn't dig Hil. n/t
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #49
73. insane yes, but this thread is really entertaining, isn't it?
Funny how Hillary has suddenly become the victim.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #13
60. there are a lot of trolls in here spouting hate against everyone opposed to Sen Clinton. nm
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. No, no, no, no, NO.
NO. LibralLiz, you've one of my favorite posters, but that is just WRONG. She's one of the best leftie talk radio personalities we've got. I agreed with every word she said about Hillary and the IWR vote. I think she was an Edwards supporter, btw.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. Hmm. I always thought she was kind of mean about John.
I will say that I only know of her from MSNBC.
I have not listened to her on AA.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #8
22. Maddow a closet rethug? i don't think so! She is one of the most informed women
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 11:29 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
when it comes to politics. She's a brilliant Rhodes scholar, knew that we were being lied into war. She is also far more progressive than Obama and Clinton and I think as disappointed as I am that those are our only choices.
BTW..speaking of closeted..she's an uncloseted lesbian.

On edit, I forgot to mention..Clinton is my Senator and I wrote and emailed her on end not to vote for the IRW knowing that Bush was full of shit. When she voted for it, I cried too. I felt betrayed, and yes, I also feel insulted with her BS explanations.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #22
35. a...closet....rethug? Oh good god....
Do some of you people even THINK before your fingers hit those keys?

PLEASE try it!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #35
50. I'm stunned.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #8
46. She is as far from a Republican as one can possibly get
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #8
55. What terrible things to say. Do you have anything to back that up? She says she was disappointed
when Sen Clinton yielded to Bush's wishes, when Sen Clinton gave Bush the authority to kill a million Iraqi's. I felt that way too. Democrats, like Clinton and Dashel were supposed to fight for us but sold us down the river. They gave their support to the fascist Bush Amin, even as we begged them not to. How does that make her a rethug.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #8
69. I listen to her on the radio every weekday.
She is no republican. period.

Just because you don't agree with her, don't make stuff up out of whole cloth.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:33 AM
Response to Reply #8
82. What a great sense of humor you have ....
Some Democrats are as bad a republicans, when someone doesn't back their candidate. Very Rovian... or Lee Atwater.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:17 PM
Response to Original message
11. Imagine Peace
Oh fuck sorry... I forgot the Peace candidates dropped out of the race. Excuse me while I call the "waaambulance" fucking hero-worshippers.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:23 PM
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21. I'm with Rachel Maddow ...and I remember being disgusting with Hillary Clinton
when she did that ...the first of many of her votes that disgusted me. So much for the Clinton legacy.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #21
30. Rachel is
a gift to progressives. She is not afraid to call bullshiite when she sees it. We need that. I've seen her admiration of Hillary and her anger at Obama.

That's what we need! We don't need a Rush.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:31 PM
Response to Original message
25. Say bye, bye, to many Kerry/Edwards supporters
We understand it was BUSH who ignored/circumvented the bill/law/requirements/intent of the IWR 2002.

It's sad to see so many Dems, seem not to realize/recognize just what a mockery of the law and checks/balances, GW and his band of thieves has made of our democracy.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. True.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #25
70. I am one the we. I keep saying to posts this is bush war and I get dissed on heavy!!
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:31 PM
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26. She tanked for a job at M$NBC so she needs to follow
in Tweety's footsteps. Kinda sad really.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. "Kinda sad really"
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 11:42 PM by Moochy
whats sad is L2 means normally ignored shills get to put their lies on my computer screen.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #26
37. Could you Hillbots be anymore obnoxious?
Christ, I feel like sending nader a check just from this thread alone.
Can you actually address policy criticism without making it out to be some sort of personal attack on your candidate?
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #37
41. Can Oabamites stop going negative?
Your candidate gives a warm fuzzy, but that's about it.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #41
61. Want a mirror?
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #37
42. self delete
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 04:43 PM by neutron
self delete
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #37
51. They cannot. They exactly mirror her campaign. Personal attacks
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 07:39 PM by burythehatchet
they use race, they use sexism when it benefits them, they are completlely oblivious to any factual information that contradicts their twisted vision.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #51
56. Eerily mirror it..like
they all got dropped off from somewhere(the mark penn school of dino politics?)..armed with red herrings, insults, strawmen, insults, ad hominems..they make the clintons proud.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #26
43. NBC isn't kind to Women
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 04:45 PM by neutron
even their off-air talent. I am told.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:33 PM
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29. I cried that day, too.
I think that's why so many of us were upset to hear Hilary say she has no regrets. If I and many other powerless, regular people regret that we weren't successful in stopping the rush war, how can she not regret that vote?
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BobbyVan Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:47 PM
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45. The best time to stop the war was before it started.
Obama was there. Hillary wasn't. So much for experience.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:07 AM
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78. Read this.
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