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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:57 AM
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The Choice - By Christopher Hayes, The Nation
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It's gotten to that time in the primary contest where lines are drawn, camps are solidified and conversations around dinner tables grow heated. My friend Dan recently put it this way: "You start talking about the candidates, and next thing you know someone's crying!" The excellent (and uncommitted) blogger Digby recently decided to shut down her comments section because the posts had grown so toxic. The recent uptick in acrimony is largely due to the narrowing of the field. While once the energy was spread over many camps, it is now, with the exits of Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards, concentrated on just two, leaving progressives in a fierce debate over whether Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama would make the better nominee, and President.

According to polling data as well as my conversations with friends and colleagues, progressives are evenly split or undecided between the two. This is, to me, somewhat astonishing (about which more in a moment), but it also means that at a time when other subgroups within the Democratic coalition are leaning heavily toward one candidate or the other, progressives are at a moment of maximum leverage.

Insofar as the issues discussed during a presidential campaign are circumscribed by the taboos and pieties of the political and media establishments, they tend to be dispiriting for those of us on the left. Neither front-runner is calling for the nation to renounce its decades-old imperial posture or to end the prison-industrial complex; neither is saying that America's suburbs and car culture are not sustainable modes of living in an era of expensive oil and global warming or pointing out that the "war on drugs" has been a moral disaster and strategic failure, with casualties borne most violently and destructively by society's most marginalized and--a word you won't be hearing from either candidate--oppressed. And yet, this election is far more encouraging (dare I say hopeful?) than any in recent memory. The policy agenda for the Democratic front-runners is significantly further to the left on the war, climate change and healthcare than that of John Kerry in 2004. The ideological implosion of conservatism, the failures of the Bush Administration and, perhaps most important, the shifts in public opinion in a leftward direction on war, the economy, civil liberties and civil rights are all coming together at the same time, providing progressives with the rare and historic opportunity to elect a President with a progressive majority and an actual mandate for progressive change.

The question then becomes this: which of the two Democratic candidates is more likely to bring to fruition a new progressive majority? I believe, passionately and deeply, if occasionally waveringly, that it's Barack Obama.

Had you told me a few years ago that the left of the Democratic Party would be split between Obama and Clinton, I'd have dismissed you as crazy: Barack Obama has been a community organizer, a civil rights attorney, a loyal and reliable ally in the State Senate of progressive groups. For the Chicago left, his primary campaign and his subsequent election to the US Senate was a collective rallying cry. If you've read his first book, the truly beautiful, honest and intellectually sophisticated Dreams From My Father, you have an inkling of what young Chicago progressives felt about Obama. He is one of us, and now he's in the Senate. We thought we'd elected our own Paul Wellstone. (Full disclosure: my brother is an organizer on the Obama campaign.)

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The question of who can best build popular support for a progressive governing agenda is related to, but distinct from, the question of electability. Given a certain ceiling on Clinton's appeal (due largely to years of unhinged attacks from the "vast right-wing conspiracy"), her campaign seems well prepared to run a 50 percent + 1 campaign, a rerun of 2004 but with a state or two switching columns: Florida, maybe, or Ohio. Obama is aiming for something bigger: a landmark sea-change election, with the kind of high favorability and approval ratings that can drive an agenda forward. Why should we think he can do it?

The short answer is that Obama is simply one of the most talented and appealing politicians in recent memory. Perhaps the most. Pollster.com shows a series of polls taken in the Democratic campaign. The graphs plotting national polling numbers as well as those in the first four states show a remarkably consistent pattern. Hillary Clinton starts out with either a modest or, more commonly, a massive lead, owing to her superior name recognition and the popularity of the Clinton brand. As the campaign goes forward Clinton's support either climbs slowly, plateaus or dips. But as the actual contest approaches, and voters start paying attention, Obama's support suddenly begins to grow exponentially.

In addition to persuading those who already vote, Obama has also delivered on one of the hoariest promises in politics: to bring in new voters (especially the young). It's a phenomenon that, if it were to continue with him as nominee, could completely alter the electoral math. Young people are by far the most progressive voters of any age cohort, and they overwhelmingly favor Barack Obama by stunning margins. Their enthusiasm has translated into massive increases in youth turnout in the early contests.

Finally, there's the question of coattails. In many senses there's less difference between the two presidential candidates than there is between a Senate with fifty-one Democrats and one with fifty-six. No Democratic presidential candidate is going to carry, say, Mississippi or Nebraska, but many Democrats in those states fear that the ingrained Clinton hatred would rally the GOP base and/or depress turnout, hurting down-ticket candidates. Over the past few weeks a series of prominent red-state Democrats, most notably Ben Nelson, Kent Conrad and Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, have endorsed Obama. When I asked a Democratic Congressional candidate in the Deep South who he preferred at the top of the ticket, he didn't hesitate: "Obama is absolutely the better candidate. Hillary brings a lot of sting; he takes some sting out of them."

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More: http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20080218&s=hayes

Like I been sayin...

:shrug:
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:19 AM
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1. Super article.
Super analysis. I have agree with it completely.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:00 AM
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2. Yep
Obama/Edwards in 08 baby YEAH!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:36 AM
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3. Kick !!!
:kick:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:38 AM
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4. "Obama is simply one of the most talented and appealing politicians in recent memory."
:thumbsup:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:33 AM
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5. Bill Clinton was more talented and appealing when he first ran, though..
And, as a Governor had more experience actually "running" a government. :shrug:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:52 AM
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10. A little more talented, far less appealing
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:38 AM
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6. Hillary is simply the most informed, steadfast, capable candidate
in recent history.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:41 AM
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7. great article
thanks for posting it.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:47 AM
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8. The Nation also said Obama is to the right of Clinton
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4209797
"As he has done on domestic issues like healthcare, job creation and energy policy, Obama is staking out a position to the right of not only populist Edwards but Clinton as well.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:52 AM
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11. and they're both to the right of Edwards, who is to the right of Kucinich, so what's
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 09:53 AM by venable
so unbelievably great about these choices?

I'd rather have the most progressive candidates. Others here apparently don't.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:48 AM
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9. Excellent!
Thanks, WillyT. :hi:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:15 PM
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12. Kick !!!
:kick:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:20 PM
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13. One Last Kick From Me !!!
:kick:

:hi:
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