Moveon.org endorsement - no surprise there.

[elixir]

Although the endorsement of Moveon.org is huge for Obama, I'm not surprised. Did we really think they would endorse Hillary? No. But I am surprised that they threw their support behind Obama before 2/5.

Maybe they think he needs the help?

[quinnox]

1. That will piss off a lot of their members

I'm sure there are many moveon.org Hillary supporters, and they won't be happy about this!

[Coexist]

3. all the members get to vote - that is how MoveOn works - has always worked

the "leaders" only get the same one vote that I do.

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. That's not true. I have been a Moveon.org member forever and I did not receive a ballot.

:grr: They just lost my support....MONTHLY support. Dumb asses.

[Bennyboy]

30. I voted two days ago....

sent me an email....

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

4. Especially those who gave money to Moveon in good faith only to see it used to swiftboat her

candidacy.

[quinnox]

6. yea, that is even worse

[Le Taz Hot]

16. Where is that being done?

Link?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

21. We shall see. They design ads to attack the opposition. Will they now consider her the opponent?

I guess we'll see.

[Tom Rinaldo]

27. If they produce very positive Pro-Obama ads it might work out OK

But in my honest opinion it would be foolish of them to do anything that smacks of attack ads against Clinton. I didn't want them to endorse nyone, but I understand and accept that is was a fair and democratic vote by the membership.

[Kittycat]

5. They got to cast their vote, just like I did.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

10. funny thing. I didn't get the emai for the vote. I get a lot of solicitations from them, though.

I suppose I'm pegged, or something. :shrug:

[Coexist]

12. are you a donating member?

I think just the official members got to vote.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

15. I donate money, I signed on as a member in 1999. What does that make me?

:shrug:

[Coexist]

19. I guess a member - I don't know -

sorry if they missed you - you should contact them.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

22. right.

appreciate the advice.

[Kittycat]

32. Funny they would miss you. I received 2 notices yesterday alone from Eli

I had forgotten to vote, and was sent 2 notices before the cut-off. I voted with about 30min to spare.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

33. I wasn't in the rotating 30,000 ballots, apparently. Congratulations to you.

[Shakespeare]

25. Nope--I haven't donated in a LONG time, and I got to vote. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. I'm a monthly donor and didn't get a ballot. n/t

[still_one]

17. I disagree, Hillary's vote on the IWR has done more damage to her among progressives

than can be seen

[Coexist]

2. MoveOn - named for asking the country to move on from Bill's impeachment

why do you think they are anti-Hillary?

[gaiilonfong]

7. That is just Clintonista Taylor Marsh SPIN

their girl didn't get the endorsement

ALL members could vote, so IF they were members they could of had a say...
NO SALE CINTONISTAS

[GalleryGod]

13. Does Taylor still have a job????

Fence vote= Wrong
Levin Amendment Vote= Wrong.
IWR Vote= Wrong.


"Hey, Girlfriend? Wassup?"

[pat_k]

37. I want to why they stand mute as the USA "Moves On" to fascism?

I want to know why a group that rejected the illegitimate attempt by fascist Republicans to abuse Constitutional processes to overturn the will of the people are so willing to surrender our sovereign authority to "rule by signing statement."

Impeachment is the ONLY way We the People can say "No Way!" to torture. Why are they so willing to tolerate the intolerable? Why are they so willing to "MoveOn" and promote the pretense that it's all just "politics as usual."

[goldcanyonaz]

8. They did it by vote too. The candidate that got the most emailed votes won their endorsement.

They should have stayed out of it, or endorsed both.

I'm really getting more and more irritated with each day that passes by in the primary.

[jenmito]

14. Would you have been just as irritated if HILLARY got the endorsement?

[City Lights]

23. The sour grapes are out in force this morning.

:hi:

[jenmito]

24. I see that. Luckily, I had bacon and eggs.

:hi:

[stillcool]

31. I wonder why none of them voted?

that's a puzzler. I've read where some said they didn't get the email. Or maybe, they just didn't read the email? But, it was posted here and other places on the net, that this was the only Moveon would choose someone to endorse. Still it's kind of funny watching the reaction.

[City Lights]

35. Regardless of who did or didn't vote, the hysterics surrounding the whole

thing is interesting to watch. :popcorn:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

36. For me too. And I'm one who's mightily pissed. And would have been if it was Clinton.

They want to use my money to wade into the primary, for their own self serving purpose.

I take heart that they will lose funds, although they probably figured they could cover the loss of Clinton supporters. Or maybe not, remains to be seen, I'm sure.

[xultar]

34. I don' t think the MoveOn endorsement will be popular for the GE though.

[GalleryGod]

9. Or maybe just "Right on Day one"

[Stephanie]

11. It was a vote by the membership

and i believe there was a 60% threshold before they'd make an endorsement. it's pretty huge.

[Araxen]

18. I'm for Obama

and wish moveon.org would just die already.

[bluedog]

20. Obama missed the vote.repudiate an ad from MoveOn.org

Published on Thursday, September 20, 2007 by The Hill (Washington, DC)
Senate Repudiates MoveOn Ad, Obama Misses Vote
by Klaus Marre


The Senate voted on Thursday to repudiate an ad from MoveOn.org that referred to Gen. David Petraeus as “General Betray Us.” Democratic presidential front-runner Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) opposed the measure, while her closest competitor, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), missed the vote.

The Senate approved a resolution condemning the ad and all attacks on members of the military by 72-25.

“This amendment was an opportunity for every senator to declare with not only their voices but also with their votes that they fully support our troops and our commanding general in Iraq,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the sponsor of the measure. “For MoveOn.org and their left-wing allies to brand General Petraeus a traitor and a liar crossed a historic line of decency. It was a despicable political attack by a radical left-wing interest group.”

Prior to the vote, President Bush also condemned the ad and criticized Democrats for not opposing it more vocally. Bush, when asked about the ad during a White House press conference, called it “disgusting.”

He added that the lack of Democratic outrage over the ad has led him to conclude that “most Democrats are afraid of irritating a left-wing group like MoveOn.org.”

Despite Bush’s criticism, the Democratic presidential candidates present for the vote, Clinton and Sen. Chris Dodd (Conn.), opposed the resolution.

“It is a sad day in the Senate when we spend hours debating an ad while our young people are dying in Iraq,” Dodd said. “Now that the Senate has twice voted on this ad, it is time to move on and vote to end the war.”

Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.) was not present for any of the votes, while Obama voted earlier in the day but left for an event in Atlanta.

MoveOn.org reacted to Bush’s statement with an attack of its own.

“What’s disgusting is that the president has more interest in political attacks than developing an exit strategy to get our troops out of Iraq and end this awful war,” said Eli Pariser, the executive director of MoveOn.org’s Political Action Committee.

Democrats Voting to Condemn MoveOn.org

Baucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Cardin (D-MD), Carper (D-DE), Casey (D-PA), Conrad (D-ND), Dorgan (D-ND), Feinstein (D-CA), Johnson (D-SD), Klobuchar (D-MN), Kohl (D-WI), Landrieu (D-LA), Leahy (D-VT), Lincoln (D-AR), McCaskill (D-MO), Mikulski (D-MD), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Salazar (D-CO), Tester (D-MT), Webb (D-VA)

Demsocrats Who Voted ‘No’

Akaka (D-HI) Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA), Brown (D-OH), Byrd (D-WV), Clinton (D-NY), Dodd (D-CT), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Harkin (D-IA), Inouye (D-HI), Kennedy (D-MA), Kerry (D-MA), Lautenberg (D-NJ), Levin (D-MI), Menendez (D-NJ), Murray (D-WA), Reed (D-RI), Reid (D-NV), Rockefeller (D-WV), Sanders (I-VT), Schumer (D-NY), Stabenow (D-MI), Whitehouse (D-RI), Wyden (D-OR)

Democrats Not Voting

Biden (D-DE), Cantwell (D-WA), Obama (D-IL)


http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/20/3985/


*******and Clinton voted NO..........wonder whats up with that?..........did their members for get this vote?

[Renew Deal]

26. Does it matter?

What are they going to do for Obama?