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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:26 PM
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MoveOn.org vote totals Obama 197,444 (70.4%) Clinton 83,084 (29.6%)
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 12:34 PM by wndycty
I hear a lot of folks saying Hillary's MoveOn supporters will be pissed, but this was a popular vote, no insider deals here. Both candidates were offered to the membership and Obama won overwhelmingly.

From the MoveOn.org e-mail I just received:

Dear MoveOn member,

With hundreds of thousands of ballots cast across the country, for the first time in MoveOn's history, we've voted together to endorse a presidential candidate in the primary. That candidate is Barack Obama.


Something big is clearly happening. A few weeks ago, MoveOn members we surveyed were split. But with John Edwards bowing out, progressives are coming together. Obama won over 70% of the vote yesterday, and he's moving up in polls nationwide.1 As comments poured in from MoveOn members across the country, the sense of hope was inspiring. Here's how Christine Y. in New Jersey put it:

"I've never felt so strongly about any one candidate in my entire life. He's truly an inspiration to all of us—especially the younger generation. I will stand by him 100% for as long as he's willing to stand up and fight for this country!"

What does MoveOn's endorsement mean? People-power. Together, we are 3.2 million Americans who care about our country and want change. Half of us live in states with primaries or caucuses this coming "Super Tuesday."


We know how to roll up our sleeves and win elections, and if we all pitch in together between now and Tuesday, we can help Sen. Obama win the biggest primary day in American history. Think about it: volunteering during the next four days could mean four years of a progressive president. Can you sign up right now to volunteer for Obama's campaign? Click here:

http://pol.moveon.org/volunteerforobama/?id=12015-571458-aG6cg7&t=535


There are lots of ways to help. You can call voters from home, go door-to-door with others in your community, travel to "Super Tuesday" states, donate, put up a yard sign, volunteer in a campaign office, or join a local meetup. Senator Obama is running a grassroots campaign, and there's a role for everyone.


Many of us feel like change is within reach for the first time in years. Here's some more of what MoveOn members see in Obama:

"This country needs real, progressive transformation. Barack Obama is the candidate who gives us the best hope of uniting and inspiring the nation to move in that direction, while also restoring America's dignity and standing as a member of the global community."—James M., Connecticut

"While I'm impressed with Clinton and believe she would make a very good president, I'm actually MOVED by Obama. In the end, I believe if Obama is elected he has the potential to bring the country together behind him."—Patricia S., Wisconsin

"He was right on the biggest question of the era—opposing the war from the start."—Jacob S., Washington, D.C.

"I support Barack Obama for the same reasons I support MoveOn.org: the more people are inspired to get involved, the better the outcome for our country. Senator Obama has demonstrated a unique capacity to inspire participation and to make public service 'cool' again. He is also sound on all the issues that matter to me and my family."—Liz B., New York

"I live in a red state, and I see my conservative neighbors and friends showing a positive interest in Barack. They like him. They are ready to be swayed. And I see my Democratic friends and family members getting excited like never before...With Barack as our candidate, I am convinced that we can win in a landslide in 2008 and usher in a new era of progressive politics."—Desirina B., Georgia

To be clear, we won't always agree with all of Obama's positions. And MoveOn members said overwhelmingly that, regardless of who wins the Democratic nomination, we'll work hard to win the White House in 2008. Whatever happens in the primary, we'll push the Democratic nominee to campaign progressively and then we'll push them to fulfill their promises after they win.

The building of a progressive consensus around Senator Obama is tangible. Earlier this week, John F. Kennedy's daughter Caroline Kennedy said Obama is the first presidential candidate to be as inspirational as her father.2 Yesterday, progressive magazine The Nation said that electing Obama is "a chance we can't pass up."3 And then DailyKos.com, the most widely read progressive blog, announced Obama won 76% in a reader poll this week.4

It's time to get to work electing a president who is inspiring a nation and is talking about big, progressive change. Click here to volunteer in these next crucial days:

http://pol.moveon.org/volunteerforobama/?id=12015-571458-aG6cg7&t=536


This is just the beginning of a long road to victory in November. Thanks for all you do, and will do to change our country for the better in 2008.

–Eli, Wes, Joan, Justin, Adam G., Adam R., Ilyse, Karin, Nita, Noah, Marika, Laura, Peter, Anna, Matt, Daniel, Carrie, Tanya, and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team

Friday, February 1st, 2008

P.S. As we were about to click "send" we received the following response from Senator Obama. We wanted to share it with you: "In just a few years, the members of MoveOn have once again demonstrated that real change comes not from the top-down, but from the bottom-up. From their principled opposition to the Iraq war—a war I also opposed from the start—to their strong support for a number of progressive causes, MoveOn shows what Americans can achieve when we come together in a grassroots movement for change. I thank them for their support and look forward to working with their members in the weeks and months ahead."

Sources:


1. "Race Tightening Between Obama and Clinton," The Nation, January 31, 2008

http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3364&id=12015-571458-aG6cg7&t=537


2. "A President Like My Father," Caroline Kennedy in the New York Times, January 27, 2008

http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3360&id=12015-571458-aG6cg7&t=538

3. "The Choice," Chris Hayes in The Nation, January 31, 2008

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080218/hayes

4. "2008: 1/30 results," DailyKos.com reader poll, January 30, 2008

http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3361&id=12015-571458-aG6cg7&t=539


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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:32 PM
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1. 70%. Wow. Very impressive.
Thanks for posting this. :hi:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:46 PM
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2. wow....
I thought they wouldn't be able to endorse either of them, because I didn't think either could get 2/3. Just goes to show me, perception does not equal reality.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:48 PM
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3. It was an impressive showing. . .
. . .I'm laughing at those who are bitter over this.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:50 PM
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5. I'm laughing, too
I mean, Obama's been endorsed by the members of MoveOn, not by the executive f'n committee or something.

In that sense, I think this endorsement is far more valuable than that of a newspaper's editorial board.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:06 PM
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14. It's a self selecting type poll
I got it by email and trashed it. Figured their endorsement would only hurt the candidate with the independents.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:49 PM
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4. Makes the Clinton folk attacking MoveOn look more silly...they POLLED their MEMBERSHIP...
instead of cutting a backroom political deal.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:55 PM
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6. Less than 10% of the membership voted based on membership of 3.2 million..
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:59 PM
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7. Any statistician will tell you that 10% is a representative sample.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:02 PM
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10. Well, there you go. Why bother polling the entire membership?
:shrug:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:05 PM
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13. The entire membership was eligible to vote.
It's not Moveon's fault that everybody didn't vote. But that doesn't make the results of the poll any less striking.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:59 PM
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8. Thats is better then all the polls that are sited everyday on this site.
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 01:00 PM by landonb16
most polls ask no more then 1000 people.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:04 PM
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12. That's a representative sample.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:59 PM
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9. Only members who actually got a ballot got to vote.
I'm a monthly donor who didn't get a ballot. They won't be getting anymore money from me. I just canceled my subscription.
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agdlp Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:03 PM
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11. Online votes will be dominated by the youth, and thats Obamas base
:-)
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:25 PM
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16. True true
It is! GOBAMA :bounce:
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:30 PM
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21. I don't know. I'm 58 and I voted for Obama. He's not just for young people!!
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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:08 PM
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15. voting
I got an email about it and was able to vote.

I assumed everyone on their mailing list got one. I can't recall if I've sent them money before or not - I may have in one of the last elections.

Meg
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:35 PM
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17. They ENDORSE Obama sending this to all members
calling all members to action, quotes from members and links

That is Political Action

I thought it might hurt with the indies and moderates too, but they may not pay attention to PAC's


just amazing, for a primary
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:44 PM
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18. 10% voted and that's a democratic decision? All voted on line? Well we know what that means...nt
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:47 PM
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19. K & R
:thumbsup:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:50 PM
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20. Something's happening here ... :)
thar's a new sheriff in town

Yipeekaya mo-fos!

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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:19 PM
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22. I voted in the poll
I was asked to vote and it wasn't a typical online poll vote. There was a security code and electronic "signature" to abate running a code.

Read into the poll what you will,and I know you all will but, it certainly wasn't a "Typical online poll", easily manipulated.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:21 PM
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23. Oh gods--not another moveon post!!
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