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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:35 PM
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What did you think of Obama helping Clinton in and out of her chair at last night's debate?
I don't have an opinion on this, but I wonder how some of you viewed that. Was it gentlemanly? Maybe a little sexist? Neither? Something else? Were you too busy pouring your beer?

:shrug:
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:37 PM
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1. gentlemanly...n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:37 PM
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2. I thought it was a nice gesture. If that had been my brother up there and
he DIDN'T do that, my mother would have let him have it!


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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:38 PM
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3. Being a gentleman. n/t
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:38 PM
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4. I don't know
Let me read through another 13 or 14 threads discussing it before I make a decision.

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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:44 PM
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18. ..........
:rofl:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:38 PM
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5. rotflmao, oh my god
We were wondering last night how long it would take for someone to accuse him of being sexist for being nice. You can always tell when Hillary is in trouble, the ridiculous attacks just get wilder.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:38 PM
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6. It may have been a definite effort to cast Senator Clinton as "female" and weak
And gentlemanly at the same time.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:38 PM
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7. I actually like a gentlemanly man
I appreciate politeness shown to women or men. I did wonder, though, if it would be taken as sexist. God knows, no matter what candidates do, there are great howlings somewhere or other.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:39 PM
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8. Gentlemanly.
Probably a calculation due to the hollering over the handshake, but he did it very well.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:39 PM
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9. Damage control but ultimately a nice gesture.
No doubt Ted read him the riot act.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:39 PM
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10. After the uproar over the fake snub I think it was expected. eom
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cjmastaw Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:58 PM
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28. Yeah.... Hillary's had was still out there waiting...
That was pathetic to go on TV and try to spin that.

You know what I say to that... Well Hillary, we're all still out here waiting for that apology.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:40 PM
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11. It was nice and smart
He played it just perfectly.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:41 PM
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12. I couldn't believe someone called into Stephanie Miller to bitch about it.
Something about that Hillary is running for President and he treated her like a lady and somehow that is insulting to Hillary. :shrug: :crazy: Good Lord, he can't win with some people.

I thought it was very nice of him.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:41 PM
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13. I appreciate the fact that he was very natural doing it
It didn't look like someone had just taught him how.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:42 PM
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14. Honestly - I thought it was a mistake.
It was not sexist. It was common courtesy. And, I think he was trying to undo the damage from the "snub".

However, it also made him appear deferential. I don't think that is what he wants.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:43 PM
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15. It struck me as being gentlemanly, nothing more.
He's a good man and it seemed clear there's a lot of respect between them, despite the media's attempt to make it seem as if they hate each other.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:57 PM
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25. Agreed - nothing more!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:43 PM
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16. I think, like everything else here, it will be fetished and drooled over...
Like a dog with a smelly old slipper.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:44 PM
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17. Nice gesture
Nothing wrong with traditional niceties.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:44 PM
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19. The gentleman has manners.
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:50 PM
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20. I thought it was politically very smart and not at all sexist. n/t
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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:51 PM
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21. It was gentlemanly. I liked it and would hope that my sons
and grandsons would behave in the same manner.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:52 PM
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22. making up for SOTU fiasco
biiiiiiiig times...
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:10 PM
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43. SOTU Fiasco
that's overstating a bit.

there was a fiasco at the SOTU but Barack and Hillary were not involved.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:55 PM
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23. I don't think it was sexist....
he was being a gentleman and I think anyone getting offended is putting him in a damned if you do/damned if you don't position.

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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:56 PM
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24. Gentlemanly, and a very nice change from the animus in previous debates. nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:57 PM
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26. He was ordered to give a visual that would wipe out the snub.
Any campaign manager worth spit would have been decisively clear on that point.

Just as Hillary's ordered her to show no signs of animosity or resentment.

I love the way you guys eat theater with a spoon.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:02 PM
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31. True; but not everyone can pull it off. Can't wait for debates w/McCain.
:hi:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:57 PM
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27. Trying really hard to be polite
They both were, actually. Snubgate had a pretty positive effect!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:58 PM
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29. I think it means somebody taught him manners when he was growing up n/t
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:03 PM
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35. As a 60's bra-burning feminist, Ms.1620rock still appreciates manners.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:05 PM
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40. As a 1980's single mother who 'doesn't need a man to help me'
I love it when Mr. Debi pulls out my chair, opens the door for me, puts gas in my car ... :loveya:

(he married me AFTER I told him "I don't NEED you" - yeah, but maybe you WANT me???? :blush:)
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:00 PM
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30. Conciliatory and respectful
They were very respectful to each other last night. It was good to present the image of a united Democratic Party.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:05 PM
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38. Actually it was typical Obama...
after a committee meeting with his staff, he was, as usual, a day late and a dollar short.

He has to ponder being nice...it is not an automatic response on his part.

Give him credit, he did act like a gentleman unlike his previous snub.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:02 PM
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32. Normal behavior?
:shrug:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:02 PM
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33. Hillary didn't seem to mind, so it was a nice thing to do
I'm sure some will see it as "sexist"...

:crazy:

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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:03 PM
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34. A nice gentlemanly gesture
Look, I believe in examining all candidates closely...on the issues. But this parsing of every small gesture, change in posture or facial expression, every fart, throat clearing, eyeblinks, etc. etc.etc. has got to stop.

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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:07 PM
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41. Well said!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:04 PM
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36. He was trying hard to get the media to stop showing the snub pics.
and maybe he realized he needed to work on his manners a little. :)
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:04 PM
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37. I thought he wanted to pull the chair from under her
:-)
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:05 PM
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39. It was fine. Any way to show civility helped the Democratic cause n/t
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:08 PM
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42. I bet $20 with my husband that some Clinton supporter would complain, I guess I just won those $20.
Well, at least it shows it did not make any mistake in what was important: the future of the country.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:24 PM
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44. I assume it was to put the SOTU flap to rest.
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 03:25 PM by wlucinda
I don't know that he's done it at any of the other debates, but IMO doesn't belittle her, and it doesn't make him look too deferential.


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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:35 PM
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45. He was being polite. I appreciate that. nt
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