EDWARDS SUPPORTERS - JOHN EDWARDS IS BACK IN !

[kelligesq]

Rhode Island


"John Edwards dropped out of the Democratic race this week and initially, his

campaign asked the secretary of state to remove his name. But NBC 10 has

learned that Edwards' campaign has since asked for Edwards' name to remain on

the ballot. "

full article here

http://www.turnto10.com/northeast/jar/ne ws.apx.-content-articles-JAR-2008-02-01- 0015.html

Edwards Wants To Remain On R.I. Ballot


WELL!!!! Our decision to insist on continuing to support and

voting for John Edwards on Feb 5 must have been telegraphed to John.

I do hear that Elizabethe Edwards checks in here from time to time

This tells me he wants us to VOTE!!

so vote we will.

Spread the word to every state in the Feb 5 primaries.

Vote for John Edwards.

He'll be the best President since JFK.

[saracat]

1. I believe it. I I am tabling for John and putting up signs! Lets get those delegates!

[UALRBSofL]

3. This is great news

I'm glad to see he will be on the ballot. Edwards supporters should be happy.

[neutron]

124. Finally 100% proof that Edwards is out for Edwards

F*k the nation.

[corkhead]

196. thanks for reminding me what "Ignore" is for

see ya.:hi:

[Name removed]

215. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[vanboggie]

208. Definition

Neutron: An elementary particle having approximately the same mass as the proton but lacking a net electric charge.

Yep, that about sums it up.

For those of you who can vote for JRE, please do!

[Andrea]

216. You're right! Ha!

The definition is perfect. :rofl:

And you are right about voting for Edwards, too!

[vanboggie]

234. Thank you very much, Andrea

:toast:

[kelligesq]

256. Neutron - not surprised at totally off the wall uneducated remark.

[DaLittle Kitty]

193. K&R...STAY ON THE BALLOT Screw The DLC'ers!

:)

[Little Star]

17. Congratulations! k&r

[Merlot]

2. The primarys are about voting for my FIRST choice

My first choice is still JE. His names on the ballot so I can't not vote for him, can I?

Even though I have a 2nd choice between Clinton and Obama, I'm lukewarm on them both and still vacillating.

So at least right now I get to vote for some one I have absolutley no resrvations about!

[burgundy floppy hat]

200. If Edwards IS on the ballot, I will vote for him

taking my cue from his campaign.

I will fight like hell for BOTH Clinton and Edwards....

And if it's simply a troll, I will vote for Clinton.


I really DO hope he continues to run, it would such a shame, a loss, a simple stupid loss, for him to stop fighting for the voiceless voters.

[jgraz]

4. Here's a working link

Edwards Wants To Remain On R.I. Ballot

[kelligesq]

5. Thanks Jgraz

[geek tragedy]

6. His campaign is dead, but his ego lives to fight another day. n/t

[kelligesq]

8. Dead like McCains ? not a real good prognostication. Where there's a will there's a way

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. "Where there's a will there's a way." I like it!

:woohoo: Go John!

[geek tragedy]

13. I see you're rafting upstream on a river in Egypt. n/t

[saracat]

14. Stop pissing in other peoples corn flakes.You'll feel better about yourself!

[saracat]

16. Please be careful about Misrepresenting this! The campaign is still "suspended"

but as long as he is on the ballot we can still gather delegates.I think he is signaling the he wants us too! whatever the case, it can't hurt.

[kelligesq]

19. Sara, he purposely put his name back on the ballot-suspended yes, but IN

living, going for it, ignoring the fat bully who pushed him out,

continuing what he has worked for for 4 years....

and I strongly suspect that our insistence on voting for him on Feb 5 here

on DU and other places is what put the starch back in him.

We want him. When he fights for himself he fights for us

[Andrea]

219. It seems to me that at a very minimum

he wants to gauge the level of hardcore support he has. And the more delegates he has, the more influence on the platform. I'm all for it and will be voting for him.

[bobbolink]

195. Now, THAT is a bumpersticker, saracat! We need a DU avatar for that! Emoticon!

I got a couple of those in my thread that was so important to me... always those who want to shit on others' heads!!

Thanks for making my day.. yet again!

:hug: :yourock: :hug:

[ChiciB1]

212. There's THAT Picture Again! The Very Best!! n/t

[bobbolink]

250. sowwwwy, gone for now..... sigh....

My guardian picture angel is coming up with one I can use that fits DU rules...

:hug:

[ChiciB1]

252. Oh, I Missed Those Rules!! I think That Picture Is The Best One Of Him!

I could actually hang it above my PC and not mind at all! I did that stuff when I was in High School and didn't think I would be thinking that way now!

What were those rules??
:hug:

[bobbolink]

253. The size.

I was surprised it "took", actually.

sigh...

I really like the black and white one of him... the RFK one.

Hopefully, someone will help me get the URl for that and get it figured out.

Thanks.... maybe you can print that one?

:hug:

[ChiciB1]

255. Okay, Wish I Would Have Printed The Other One! n/t

[bobbolink]

314. I have no doubt I was alerted on by some cranky anti-Edwards person.

They'll do ANYTHING to get even.

I thought this morning it would be nice if someone with the savvy would set up a website with a selection of Edwards photos -- some reduced in size.

sigh...

[jackson_dem]

51. Another tragic post from the tragedy

[TheWatcher]

94. Never has a user name fit a poster better.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

89. oh please. He's just going along with what we, his supporters want.

and strategically, it's a very smart move.

[TheWatcher]

93. Much like your brain.

[kelligesq]

99. Watcher - wer have a pleasant thread here. without flames - if you want trouble I;ll be

glad to send an alert on you

[TheWatcher]

119. And this threat of yours is supposed to frighten me?

Alert away. It will not be the first time, and it will not be the last.

While your are at it, place an alert on geek as well.

Otherwise, you are a complete hypocrite.

For your information, I am an Edwards supporter. The post I responded to was out of line. it was an emotional response to a poster who has a well known MO for making such unnecessary posts. Was it the right kind of response. in hindsight, probably not. Do I apologize for it? Absolutely not.

If you're going to alert me, then fine. Do it. But his post deserves one as well.

Do I want trouble? With you, absolutely not.

He slandered Edwards, I responded.

Don't like it? Alert away.

[kelligesq]

211. My apolgies then, I didnt catch that - - but still

let's not do flaming here - its fairly civil except for obamanuts startig up

and mostly we try to stay above it by being civil without nasties or 4 letters

sorry again

[ChiciB1]

214. I KNOW You're An Edwards Supporter... I Didn't Understand What Was

going on myself. Sticking with him aren't you??

[MaryRN]

104. Thank you, Dr. Freud.

[Dangerously Amused]

186. Oh, excellent! I was going to do a write-in vote for him anyway,

...but now I won't have to. :D


Thanks John! Keep fighting the good fight! We love you!

[mrbluto]

322. Where'd you get that talking point?

I've seen it in many other threads - it's getting tired.

While we're at it: what'd you do with the money Fred Luntz gave you to get a haircut?

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. Happy to K&R!

:woohoo:

[UpInArms]

10. thanks! this DUer will be voting for Edwards anytime she can

[kimmerspixelated]

12. Hip Hip Hooree!

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. I love that pic of John! Awesome!

This Edwards Democrat will be voting for him anytime I can! I will never give up on him or his message!

[waiting for hope]

82. Me Too!

This EDWARDS DEMOCRAT is going to vote for him every chance I get. His message is the hope of this party, of this country.

[CorpGovActivist]

11. I'm gonna need a JohnEdwards.com fix on this...

... before I invest still-raw feelings or energy.

But I'll kick and rec for cautious optimism.

- Dave

[ChiciB1]

21. Me Too! KICK... And It's A Very BIG One!!! nt

[ChiciB1]

123. BTW... thanks For The "Two Steps Forward, One Step Back" Was Meaning

to get back to that thread and give you a holler. Maybe WE can get something going here. Are you in???

Remember on New Year's Ever... THE SQUIRRELS!!

[unapatriciated]

130. Dave!!!

:hi: Our pc crashed and we lost a lot of files. We bought a new mac, tired of losing pc's to viruses. Lame can't log onto his account we are trying to fix that too. It will take some time to learn how to use the mac, but lame learns fast and should be back to making vids very soon.

[Andrea]

side note from a mac person

I use both - mac at home, pc at work. It won't take you long to learn and you'll love it. Congrats and enjoy!

[cooolandrew]

18. Must of had a lot of pressure to re-enter.

[kelligesq]

20. Just his supporters grieving and calling for him -always helps

to see you're loved

:toast:

[SammyWinstonJack]

59. Lots of love for John!

:loveya:

[indigoblue]

22. That's great news!

I think I was right! He suspended his campaign because he didn't want to give any more money to the corporate media that was marginalizing him. The contributions from us, small people, have been profiting the corporate media, which was totally against his belief! Now he is not wasting our money, and we are free to campaign for him!

Yey!

:bounce:

[kelligesq]

23. Now you all get busy notifying every state in the Feb 5 jamboree-Here they are:

Alabama,
Arkansas,
Delaware,
Missouri,
New Mexico Democrats,
North Dakota,
Oklahoma,
Utah
West Virginia Republicans
Alaska,
Arizona,
California,
Colorado,
Connecticut,
Georgia,
Idaho Democrats
Illinois,
Kansas Democrats
Massachusetts,
Minnesota,
Montana Republicans
New Jersey,
New York
Tennessee.

[saracat]

24. I think he is on the ballot in all of those and always has been.

[indigoblue]

25. Can I recommend this thread for a thousand times? Please!

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[kelligesq]

53. Indigo, knock yourself out LOL

[frogmarch]

26. K&R

[MissDeeds]

28. Big K & R!

Great news! I'll send the link to everyone I know.

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[maxpower]

29. He still has my vote

I am going to vote for him on Tuesday. I am telling everyone I know to vote the same way. They already have heard the reasons why, not from the MSM but from me.

[Seabiscuit]

30. Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in!

GO JOHN GO!!!



:kick:

[Gloria]

31. Voting for JE in NM on Tuess~

[kelligesq]

55. GOOD ON ALL OF YOU -could u let us know

what states you are in?

I know we got New Mexico

and any of you on the Forum states, could you post over there too with the good
news..tell em to vote John Edwards Feb 5.

[no name no slogan]

32. Very cool!

I'm not a big Edwards supporter, but this is WAY to early for the nomination to become a two-person race. :thumbsup:

[southern_belle]

33. YES!!!

:woohoo: :applause:

[earth mom]

34. Just saw this on JohnEdwards.com Glad to see it here!

:woohoo:

Contact John at this link & tell him to NEVER GIVE UP!!!

http://www.johnedwards.com/about/contact/form/

NGU!!!

[Yael]

36. That is not an official campaign statement -- it is member blogging

like at Kos.

[kelligesq]

40. Yael, did you see the newspaper article - dated today here

full article here

http://www.turnto10.com/northeast/jar/ne ws.apx.-content-articles-JAR-2008-02-01- 0015.html

[Yael]

41. See post 35

[earth mom]

68. That link doesn't work. nt

[Yael]

35. I would be cautious with this. It may have something to do with campaign financing

and state party laws. He may have people there that need to remain on the payroll and he may have to stay on the ballot in order to pay them from campaign funds.

I am just thinking out loud, but he is NOT signaling that he wants to be back on the ballotS.

I can attest to this as the PA signature collection to put his name on the ballot ends Feb 5th -- and they have already cancelled our collections. If they don't turn in sigs by Tuesday, he isn't on the ballot come April.

[sakabatou]

38. Oh c'mon, Yael

Don't be a "Debbie Downer." :P

[Yael]

42. I know, I know

:spank:

If they called us and told us to send in the signatures, I would feel a lot better about "back in". PA is a tad bit bigger than Rhode Island and as an April state -- who knows. It may come down to us?

Sorry to be a pessimist -- I just think there are other reasons for it than he is reengaging his campaign.

:hide:

[kelligesq]

52. Yael, it's good to be cautious & I'm aware of the suspend situation

[indigoblue]

58. Can you keep collecting signatures to put his name on the ballots?

This has to be a grassroots movement not directed by his campaign. If the media finds out that he is trying to put his name back in the ballots, they are going to chew him up. But if this is a movement originated by people, they can't do that.

[Yael]

60. Yes, but without them filing and paying the fee, it doesn't mean anything

[SammyWinstonJack]

61. ...

:evilgrin: Go John!

[kelligesq]

47. Yael, someone in his campaign or himself, who knows, signaled

on his site by putting up a copy of "Vote for John E.Feb 5 - Give Him The Power"
yesterday. Then today the news report from R.I.

His campaign is still suspended as far as I know, but he has no control over his
over-exuberant supporters. (wink-wink) After all, we are not paid employees or connected to his campaign other than being supporters who want to vote for him and who loosely organize on the internets.

As long as his name is on those ballots, in any of the 24 states, no one can stop any of us from voting for him.

Meanwhile if I were you, I'd go over to his site and post the info about Pa and the cutoff to register...or email the campaign at - well you know the e mail..

I cant think of the gal's name who more or less manages things on site, but you may come across it.

[Ricki]

161. It DOES have to do with campaign finance

I wish he were sending us a secret signal too, but it is because of campaign finance laws that he said he "suspended" his campaign instead of saying he "stopped" or "quit" his campaign. It has something to do with getting the matching funds.

[kelligesq]

258. yes Rick that's right...but as long as his name is on those 24 Feb 5 ballot states already

there's no reason why we shouldn't vote for him and garner as many votes and
delegates as we can for him.

After February voting, we are going to start a DRAFT JOHN EDWARDS CAMPAIGN.

[Ricki]

279. It just seems like a wasted vote to me

Even if he gets delegates, they will end up going to Clinton or Obama. Why don't you just choose instead?

[Andrea]

228. Yael, a question

Would it be possible for you and the other folks in PA to go ahead and turn in the signatures on Tuesday anyway? I would think you already have enough signatures as it generally isn't too hard for a mainstream candidate to meet those standards. If there isn't some regulation preventing it, I think it would be great if you turned those in and got him on the ballot anyway.

[Andrea]

229. I should have read down farther before posting, another question

I see you said they had to file and pay the fee. How much is the fee? Sometimes these are minimal amounts like $75. Could we raise the filing fee and have someone (maybe you) file anyway?

[kelligesq]

259. Andrea, I was thinking the same thing - but does the

candidate himself have to be there, as they did in New Hampshire?

[ChiciB1]

275. Need To Get Some Answers And A Plan... Keep Me Up To Date

on exactly what's up! I'll eagerly help out!

[Andrea]

300. I don't know

I'm hoping Yael does.

[OzarkDem]

37. I plan to vote for him in Ohio

March 4. Can't wait.

[kelligesq]

56. Hey Ozark. LIke Yael , do you know when

registration cut off is? or if he is already on ballot?

maybe make a call to Supervisor of Elections?

oops - isnt Ohio where they went to jail for doing a lil vote changing?

[SammyWinstonJack]

64. Here in Texas on March 4. Can't wait!

[Tatiana]

39. I called my county clerk and verified that JE was going to be on my ballot.

He is and I can still vote for him.

Edwards will still get delegates. I hope his name is still on the ballot for the later primaries.

[Yael]

43. When do you vote?

[Tatiana]

45. This Tuesday. n/t

[kelligesq]

57. Wahoo Tatiana - what state ? you a member of

the forums on DU for your state?

can you spread the word ? vote on Feb 5 for John Edwards. ?

[sakabatou]

44. And here I wait in CA. to see if he's on

Sure it's early to speculate, but boy, do I want to know.

[Yael]

49. He is confirmed on all Tuesday ballots

I will try to find the link

[kelligesq]

62. Saba, when is your voting date in California? and

are you a member of your state Forum here on DU?

can you spread the word vote for Edwards for your state?

[sakabatou]

80. I can certainly get people to register to vote

:D

And no, I'm not a member of that state forum unfortunately.

[ZinZen]

92. Edwards was on my CA absentee ballot.

[kelligesq]

100. Hi Zin Zen, what date was that ? thanx

:bounce:

[flyarm]

141. well in Ca you absentee already got sent out and he was on it..so it will be on CA ballot!

they can't change the ballot i don't believe for absentee and election day..

fly

[kelligesq]

261. California has 400 delegates, can anyone here get out there with a sign on

Sunday and Monday and Tuesday? and others with VOTE John Edwards in other areas
near polls. It would be more than great to get some of those delegates

Even if hand made signs on art poster boarrd. Real important to give John visibility

You can always shout answers to any quesions they have as they drive by or talk
to them as they walk by explaining John is just suspended waiting for money in
March from Fed matching program

[trashcanistanista]

158. Edwards is on the Cali ballot. They were printed in advance

and distributed yesterday to election inspectors.

[Irishonly]

172. He is

I vote by absentee and sent my ballot is early last week. My husband requested absentee and received it yesterday. Edwards' name is on the ballot.

[kelligesq]

262. Thanx Irish - hope those ballots were marked for John E. :)

:bounce:

[ChiciB1]

46. A long Tim Ago... I Got To Post Back And Forth With Elizabeth AND

maybe she also blogs at other places. Does anyone know what the other blogs have been doing?? I know THE EDWARDS SUPPORTERS here have been DEVASTATED and "we" think something SMELLS!

If this is really happening, then perhaps SOMETHING did happen and we might be PUSH they need!!

I'm in for EDWARDS... no matter what! I DO most certainly think something weird went on down her in Florida! But, then it ALWAYS is weird in Florida!! How I hate, really hate voting down here!!

[kelligesq]

67. Hey Chici, I'm a precinct advisor down here - what're you sayin )&*%^%

:rofl:

[ChiciB1]

77. It's Something "Laughable" But It's Also Disgusting... Don't Know Where You

are, but I make NO bones about where I am!! THE county of The Witch, Cruella! The one that kinda/sorta LOST all those vote in 2006!!

I VOTE, but since we can NEVER really get ANY verification I ALWAYS WONDER if my votes has even been counted. I started voting absentee after 2000, but still I don't know!!

It IS another RACKET!!

[ChiciB1]

78. My Goodness... Just Re-Read That Post Of Mine... I Was Really In A Hurry

because I was cooking something! I can't STAND all those mistakes. Please FORGIVE!! I didn't even check it over. Just typed and RAN!!!

[balantz]

48. K&R!!!

:woohoo: Here's hoping!

My "X" is his!

[FreeStateDemocrat]

50. I was going to stay home but will now cast a "protest" vote for John Edwards if he still on in Md.

[toadzilla]

54. go MD!!! I will be doing the same.

I hope he is still on our ballot...

[Yael]

63. You all may be able to write in

That is what your neighbors to the north are going to have to do.

[toadzilla]

71. yeah but a write in basically immediately discredits your vote.

I think I would just sit it out if that were my option.

[Yael]

75. How so?

[toadzilla]

83. they dont count them.

[kelligesq]

102. they count them Toadzilla, on paper ballot or touch machine automatic.

[Yael]

230. Maybe where you live, but here in the Commonwealth of PA, they do.

[kelligesq]

70. FreeState, when is your voting date? know that this is not a protest

vote - every vote counts toward getting him delegates, and he can use those delegates either to go onto the November elections, or to force parts of his issues become the platform of the dems or the candidates.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

285. Maryland Democratic Primary:Tuesday, February 12 | Delegates at Stake: 99

I understand the purpose and I support it but I'm still protesting the treatment by the M$M and Democratic Party leadership of John Edwards candidacy.

According to this source John Edwards is still on the ballot in Maryland:

http://www.baltimorecountymd.gov/Agencies/elections/ballotsample.html

[peacock]

175. Do it!

Nothing to lose by doing it and much to lose by not doing it.

[robinlynne]

65. I don't understand. Why did he drop out if he really doesn't want to drop out?

I support Edwards, but with his drop out am going to vote for Obama, as the lesser of two evils. I would like to understand exactly what it will mena to vote for Edwards now. I don't want to waste my vote and get Hillary elected. What would voting for Edwards now accomplish exactly?
besides the idea of a protest vote.

[kelligesq]

72. Hey Guys, I need to explain this is not a protest vote - this is

a vote to give John the power to influence the candidates and the dem party
to make his and our issues part of their platform...if not for him to go all the way to the convention.

The votes get him delegates. Both the candidates want his delegates even now.

I came over here to post about Obama calling Edwards which I'll do in a minute.

Separately I'll tell you all why John was PUSHED out...didnt do it willingly.

[robinlynne]

86. tell us, tell us tell us, I'm still saddened.

[ChiciB1]

96. Are You Asking Us To PM You??? n/t

[kelligesq]

98. That would be okay - I guess I should start a spread sheet to keep track

:)

[ChiciB1]

106. Okay... Get Ready!!!

:hi: AND Now I fell like a little :bounce: :bounce: and a BIG :kick:

[saracat]

134. It could get him delegates if he breaks the 15% threshold. Then he can bargain for the platform

Like healthcare and poverty issues and for unions, those things that count.He can even bargain for placement.

[peacock]

177. Edwards suspended his campaign

he didn´t drop out.

As an Edwards supporter, if you are for Hillary, vote for her.

I don´t find any decisive reason to vote for either Clinton or Obama.

So, I´m voting for JRE.

[MonkeyFunk]

181. Yes, he did drop out

don't be silly.

[kelligesq]

264. Monkey. I will say it again. JOHN E. DID NOT DROP OUT - SUSPENDED IS NOT DROP OUT

[MonkeyFunk]

306. Yes it is, dear

as hard as it may be for you to accept.

[mrbluto]

323. Why is it that posts like yours...

...always use condescending phrases and words?

I'm sure the person you're responding to doesn't think it's cute when you call them "dear" and I doubt you mean any affection.

You actually want a fight, don't you?

There's no way you're so thick as to think just saying "accept it dear" would get you any where and still have enough neurons to still form a sentence.

So I'm left wondering what your real motivation is.

Why the hell are you posting at all?

Are you here just to gloat?

BTW: Suspended means suspended - it might wind up meaning "over for all practical purposes", but we're not at that point yet and you're wishing just a bit too hard for may taste.

If you're a typical "O" or an "H" supporter I shudder to think what the next administration will be like.

[AnneD]

183. This is a primary for the DEM's

not THE general election. Vote for your candidate-don't just settle for the lesser. If you like Edwards-let the democratic leader know-Edwards can still walk into Denver with some delegates. This can give him leverage with the leadership-really help him to force his issues.

[TexasBushwhacker]

66. As it should be ...

If he isn't ready to endorse Clinton or Obama (and I don't think he should yet) his supporters should have an opportunity to vote for him on Super Tuesday.

[last_texas_dem]

69. I plan on voting for him in TX

as I figure he'll still be on the ballot for the March 4th primary. Maybe a pointless act, but I just don't have that strong of a preference between the two front-runners; might as well vote for someone that I believe in.

[kelligesq]

74. YAHOO TX. Mar 4 huh? are you a member of

the forums here on DU? If so could you post he's in and vote for him?

Thanks. TX

[readmoreoften]

201. Yes, I'm in TX too and my partner and I both want to vote Edwards regardless.

Can you let us know if he's on the ballot?

[ClericJohnPreston]

73. Symbolism may be all we have left

But I'll take that any day, rather than be force-fed two different flavors of the same CORPORATE CANDIDATE.

Watching the lovefest last night, I couldn't help but be struck by how relaxed the two opponents were. Then again, with absolutely NO ONE to hold you accountable, you could just spin and lie all day long. Neither your opponent or a sleeping press would rise up, so why sweat it.

WWJE do? He would have called a lie a lie and yesterday would not be the lovefest that was declared a MUST HAVE by the DNC, who gagged Edwards.

On every level, most especially the disenfranchisement of the working class, a battle between two corporate mouthpieces is patently phony and an insult to anyone with intelligence. Then again, if anyone watched the M$M, not a one questioned WHY Edwards had dropped out. They happily accepted his speech, without asking questions. They had their own narrative in control again.

I consider our efforts symbolic, as well as keeping my thread about Corporatism alive.

I am for the empowerment of people and the disempowerment of corporations.

I am for JOHN EDWARDS.

[ChiciB1]

97. Thanks Again For Your thread Yesterday CJP... I Posted A Lot On It...

way into early this morning. I wanted to "read" all of the posts, but it got very late, and I had a doctor's appt., and then had some Lab work done, so I STILL haven't read them all.

I have it bookmarked to get back to because I'm taking some meds right now... Ya know, kinda make you sleepy kind!

But thanks again... I'm going to check it out again. I voted for him in the Primary here in Florida... BUT what can I say?? I was watching and I think he was above 15% for a while, but in end, well you know the result.

[kelligesq]

76. I came over here to tell you about Obama on tv about 10 mins ago

He gave an interview and said he's been calling John Edwards and asking
him to endorse him (Obama) meaning he wants his delegates.

When asked if John Edwards was going to endorse him, he looked very uncomfortable and fidgeted and mumbled - well he's not endorsing yet - and then
Obama mumbled something about administration.

end of interview.

Obama is like calling himevery day. He has said several times that he has been calling John.

As long as John has those delegates he has the power, see?

[itsrobert]

79. Didn't Obama and Hillary endorse him at last night's debate

Just about. So, why shouldn't we all vote for Edwards?

[kelligesq]

87. No Robert, they were sucking up to him. THEY WANT HIS DELEGATES

so the more votes and delegates we get for John, the more power he has over those two to incorporate his populist issues into their platforms.

[peacock]

179. That´s right! Go JRE!

[ChiciB1]

113. Your Avatar????????? n/t

[peacock]

178. Yeah!

[stickernation]

81. i own DraftJohnEdwards.com !!!

i currently have the site pointing at my brother in law's PR consultancy but it might be a fun group project if anyone is interested :)

[kelligesq]

88. Hold onto that site - we may just do a draft between March & November when we

would have more time to organize.

That would solve a problem for John Edwards which I'm abut to explain.

[Hieronymus]

84. OK, I'll vote Edwards on the Fifth.

[kelligesq]

90. Great Hieronymus. What state are you in & when do yu vote?

:applause:

[femmocrat]

85. I wll vote for him in PA, Apr. 22, if he is on the ballot.

Does anyone know if he is? thanks

[kelligesq]

91. Yael is in Pa and looking some things up on that now.

[kelligesq]

95. Some have asked why John dropped out - he didn't - he was pushed involuntarily

.Dont ask names I wont answer, but you should be able to figure it out.
John did not drop out willingly-he was pushed

I have some confirmation of this story but not of all of it directly because parts of the story came from news reports and talking heads.

A certain heavyweight in the democratic party was enraged and having a fight with one of the candidates over an imagined insult to a relative. This heavyweight decided to support the other candidate partly out of spite and revenge, but also for his own glory. So he called in all the other heavyweights to bolster his candidate but that candidate still wasnt cleaning up the votes. So next this heavyweight demanded John drop out of the race even though he didnt want to, this so that his candidate would have a better chance at winning votes if there were only two candidates.

The "suspend" speech that John read from a piece of paper wasnt like John. He never reads his speeches, just lets it fly. And the words he read weren't like his at all, he even tripped over them especialy a phrase about "time to step aside so that history can blaze its path". Has anyone ever heard John Edwards speak that way in speech or conversation. NO. And what nonsensical phrase is "so
history can blaze its path"? An unconvincing speech prepared for John to read to add to his humiliation. The heavyweight wasn't going to take a chance on John saying anything he didnt want said.

We all saw his discomfort and how upset and abrupt John Edwards was; totally unlike himself. We surmised wrongly that his wife had taken a turn for the worse, or his children had been threatened and various nefarious scenarios.

NOt at all. John's life's goals and purpose were ripped from him by a man John had once considered a friend and mentor. This heavyweight has a great deal of power in the world and in the arena of politics. John's arena. John was in the way so he was pushed out of the way with no concern for the 4 years of effort John had expended to reach this pinnacle for any man, being a candidate for The President of the United States. It was and is an ugly and selfish betrayal of trust .

Now its my view that this democratic party has treated John very badly, done nothing to help him, and without consideration. The bully just threw him away. I'd like to see John go for the Presidency on the Independent ticket.

Whether he would or not I dont know. He has always said he's a democrat when asked if he would ever switch to Independent. But that was before he was pushed
out of the race. Whether he gave his word to the bully I dont know. I'm not privy to the machinations these politicians use against each other.

But I did get an idea from one of our posters who owns the site "Draft Edwards".
After the February elections we would have from March to November to mount a
grassroots DRAFT EDWARDS campaign. That would get John out of the box he's in -
and the fat bully can't tell us what to do or who to vote for, nor could he stop
a draft movement or get John to stop us.

None of us are thrilled with the alternatives - two sides of the same coin - centrist and right of centrist corporatists with their hands out to the lobbyists. As John said, "You dont think they're giving you that money and not
expecting favors in return?". Everytime they give a favor to the corporate
lobbyists we lose.

I think John Edwards could be the best President this country has seen since JFK.

What do you think about this ?

[OzarkDem]

101. So Ted Kennedy forced Edwards out?

How can he do that? Aside from his name, he has no power. He can barely get re-elected in his own state.

[kelligesq]

105. Now OZARK - I said I wouldnt give any names,,, so you're making me laugh

:rofl:

[LibraLiz1973]

116. John Kerry pushed him out. He got Kennedy to pull with him

[karynnj]

266. Neither Kerry or Kennedy forced him out

The results in NH, NV, SC, and FL did.

[kelligesq]

267. Karyn, I dont know when you became an expert on the subject, but you're wrong

nothing to do with the election results where he was doing just fine pushed him out

[karynnj]

309. No one on this thread is an expert - I seriously doubt that you are more informed, more connected,

more perceptive or more intelligent than I am.

I do not see the huge mystery that you do on Edwards dropping out. He has not won a state and I have not seen a recent poll that suggested he would. The fact is that now, before February 5 is when he has the most leverage. He was able to get both to speak of putting poverty as a top issue and to say that he did. This led to considerable coverage that he had made this a more prominent issue than before. Pushing that issue IS very important to him and secondarily, it gives him a classy exit where his name is attached to that issue.

Now, assume he didn't and it is February 6 and he failed to win a state on superTuesday. The story would be mostly the winner or (if they split even 60/40), the story that surprisingly there is still a race between the two. When was the last time there was no winner this far into the process? Edwards would be discussed as much as Kuchinich was in 2004 - in a race where the likely winner was clear from the first multi-state day. His leverage at that point could be zero if there is a clear winner and there is some real chance of that. Droping out at that point would get the coverage that after not succeeding anywhere, he was facing reality and if one candidate is able to win all the bigger story might be when the number 2 would drop out. The ability to push his issue would be gone.

On the other side, if Kennedy and Kerry had that kind of power and the williness to abuse it, why not use it in 2006 - to keep Obama out and to stop Edwards then? This would leave Kerry and Clinton plus the other candidates who never caught fire. Or, if they preferred to be behind the scenes, push Edwards out in early 2006 and make it Obama/Clinton, without Edwards splitting those angry on the war. Could Bill Clinton have dishonestly equated voting for funding bills (which people like Kennedy and Leahy did) with supporting the war - if Edwards hadn't pushed that for a year?

I resent that in your conspiracy theory attempt to prove that Edwards would not reconsider his staying in the race, you are willing to accuse someone like Senator Kerry, who has a long term record of integrity, of actions that are illegal and unethical.

I will not respond futher to this as it is impossible to argue with someone whose whole believe is based on fantasies about Edwards.

[kelligesq]

321. Altman and Fineman of Newsweek and Time Mag disagree with u-they know more than you I assume

[OzarkDem]

122. I know, purely my own speculation

It just goes to show how lame our Dem leaders are if they let elected officials push people out of races for no good reason.

[SammyWinstonJack]

168. Or Kerry?

:shrug:

[kelligesq]

268. do you think Kerry is that powerful ? :)

:banghead:

[SammyWinstonJack]

281. I don't know, is he? I was just speculating.

He did come out first and endorse Obama and then Kennedy followed right? :shrug:

[AnneD]

190. I'm not thinking a Kennedy here....

but someone else that can twist a Kennedy's arm. Makes a lot of sense to me. I grew up in Texas-I'm sure Jack Kennedy had his arm twisted when he added Johnson to his ticket.

This has just enough facts in it to smell like the truth....

edited to add that catch phrase 'blaze a path to history' does have a ring. I wouldn't put it past a certain hot tempered politician to stick his nose into this campaign in particular. Think on this folks-who would benefit most by Edwards dropping out this early-before Super Tuesday. There lies your answer.

[kelligesq]

269. Obama

[SammyWinstonJack]

283. Of course.

[surfermaw]

254. early Morning CNN after F.votes David G. worked for Clinton and several Rep...Said Edwards would

be pushed out, very early in the morning

[karynnj]

265. He had no difficulty getting re-elected

He got over 69% of the vote - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2006#Senate_contests_in_2006

[kelligesq]

270. who?

[karynnj]

313. The post I was responding to said that Kennedy barely got re-elected

Not true - his win was never in the least doubt.

[ChiciB1]

103. I'm In For SURE!! And When You Said FAT... I Thought Kennedy First!

But there are more "fat" ones in the Senate! But the Kennedy's have lots of "relatives" around. Also, I MUST add I have NO IDEA who you're talking about because I'm not insider by ANY stretch!

And as you said, that "speech" yesterday was NOT a John Edwards speech. I've heard him say several times that he has NO speech writer and I have NEVER seen him "read" anything when giving a speech. He's literally "Johnny On The Spot" with his answers and speaks off the cuff from what I've seen.

So HOW do we go about this? Do we "meet" somewhere else on a website or something? Even if he doesn't WIN, he can hold POWER that was snatched away from him and I'm in just the mood to do a "smack down" on someone!!

Thanks for the information!

[kelligesq]

107. Yikes. I got a bunch of firecrackers here ready to go off :D let's get

through Feb 5 first, we only have Saturday Sunday and Monday to make phone calls
and/or post on sites askig them to vote Edwards in the primaries

I'm not a paying member here so I cant go into the Edwards forums or state forums

Is anybody here a paying member who can post in there?

[ChiciB1]

109. I'm With Florida, But We Voted! What Else Can I Do?? n/t

[kelligesq]

114. Chichi, can you post on state forums? If you can, I'll find the

thing for you to post

[ChiciB1]

118. I Can... I Just Posted Something At Alabama, The First One That Came Up... n/t

[kelligesq]

127. Chich - Here's the states and a post for you to copy

Alabama,
Arkansas,
Delaware,
Missouri,
New Mexico Democrats,
North Dakota,
Oklahoma,
Utah
West Virginia Republicans
Alaska,
Arizona,
California,
Colorado,
Connecticut,
Georgia,
Idaho Democrats
Illinois,
Kansas Democrats
Massachusetts,
Minnesota,
Montana Republicans
New Jersey,
New York
Tennessee.

Why Im Still Voting For John Edwards on Feb 5 - Give John the Power

I'm still voting for John Edwards on Feb 5. John has framed the issues all along - Single Payer healthcare, not
Universal, lobbyists out of the elections, America taking care of our Vets, and giving a chance for affordable college, bringing home our people from Iraq within a year without permanent bases in Iraq, restoring America and every issue until Obama and Clinton "borrowed" his populist stance.

But "borrowing" words is not a commitment to carry them out whichever
one gets the nomination for the general election.

That is why we must must must continue to vote for John Edwards on Feb 5 in all
primaries.

The more delegates he collects even though he has "suspended" his campaign (I suspect because of the MSM essentially boycotting coverage of him and the failure of the feds to match funds until March) the more power John will have to extract a written committment from either or both candidates to adhere to John's
and our populist issues

[ChiciB1]

128. Okay... I'll Get Started! I May Not Get It All Done Tonight. Taking Some

meds for a "kidney" thing and I'm groggy. Was up very late last night. But I'll get started.

I was just checking all the post from ClericJohnPreston and was wondering if we could get some of them involved too! Lots and lots of people here!

Thanks!

[flyarm]

142. me too! but i thought of him when John got out...eom

[RevolutionStartsNow]

111. I learned a long time ago to not believe everything I read on the Net

...but I believe this.

And it fucking sucks.

You are right, John would have been the best president this country has seen in a long, long time.

I cried watching him make that speech in NOLA.

I'm hoping Trippi or someone tells the story of what really happens. (Between Dean and Edwards, Joe Trippi's memoirs are going to be explosive. I know he can't do it yet, as he probably still wants and needs to work...)

I'm a Dem forever, but sometimes our party just sucks. Like now.

Edited to add: of course I'm voting for John on Tuesday. I can't wait! My family and others are trying to convince me to vote for Obama, but I'm voting for the candidate I believe would make the best president. I'll vote for the Dem in November.

[kelligesq]

115. Rev, after this election is over in Nov, I'm switching to independent - dems

suck - they're not the party they used to be - no room for liberals or
populists

and what the hell is a progressive.

I used to think it was new name for liberal

now I think its a new name for DLC centrist

[burgundy floppy hat]

203. Why not fight to make the democratic party party?

Maybe you see only one solution, historically, though, if you truly are
concerned with the people, you should fight for them, by rehabbing the democrats, as opposed to switching allegiance.

[ChiciB1]

125. I've Always Been A Dem... But Have Been Thinking Of NPA After GE!

Here in Florida you have to register as a Dem or Puke to vote in the primary. I don't like it, but that's the way it is.

[readmoreoften]

202. I'm leaving the party too after the general. But I'll vote for local dems.

After 20 years of supportive voting, I'm preeettty done.

[earth mom]

140. Sounds like Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy.

But what I don't understand is how the heavyweight could push John out so easily? Why would John ever agree? It still doesn't make sense.

[AnneD]

192. I don't think he WAS pushed out so easily...

thus the 'suspended' with no endorsment. For some reason, this sounds like a lawyerly planted loophole to me. If he garners enough delegates and the other candidates are close-he may be a tie breaker at the convention. And after reading this and thinking back-there may be some truth to this.

[MonkeyFunk]

153. If he could so easily be "pushed" out of the race

he doesn't deserve to be President.

Come on, get serious. He hasn't re-entered the race.

[robinlynne]

167. I don't understand. Why then did he drop out?

[Andrea]

235. I would definitely help with a Draft JRE movement

:patriot:

[kelligesq]

271. Then you're in, Andrea :) we might have to

pass the hat to pay the guy rent who has the site, but we'll see

:toast:

[TexasBushwhacker]

249. And now we have this

"This heavyweight decided to support the other candidate partly out of spite and revenge, but also for his own glory."

I must admit, when I first read that Ted was endorsing Obama, my first thought was "Who gives a shit?", but I guess some do.

Kennedy revels in limelight on trail for Obama

"It’s like when Tony Bennett suddenly became hip again"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22960576/

:puke:

FWIW, I continue to support Edwards, but I won't hold Ted Kennedy's support against Obama. I will be voting for the Democratic candidate in the general election.

[ChiciB1]

257. And I Got An Email From Him... How He Got My Name Is Beyond Me....

I disconnected with all them up there in D.C. some time back!

[kelligesq]

272. TEX BINGO even the reporter is on to it " It seems more personal this time" & "zingers

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22960576 /

[karynnj]

263. That heavyweight could not make JRE quit if he had the votes and the money from supporters

JRE got plenty of positive press in 2006 and there was a large amount of coverage on his NO campaign announcement. The fact is that though he gained some support - he seemed to hit an invisible ceiling that was under 20%.

I understand you still are in grief over losing the dream of Edwards as President. That hurts, but this smear of an excellent Senator is ridiculous.

[kelligesq]

273. Karyn, get over it. I dont

know what you're doing here...but whoever youre supporting we are not

going to change, you're wasting your time.

[karynnj]

311. This has nothing to do with who I support in 2008

it has to do with the willingness to attack Senators Kennedy and Kerry rather than accept that Edwards realized that he could not win and likely figured that last week was when he could get most leverage for his signature issue.

Was he different in that speech? Of course, Just as Gore was in 2000, Kerry in 2004, Gephardt (in tears) in 2004, Dean in 2004 etc were. I can't imagine how hard those speeches given to supporters are. Like Dean in 2004, forming the DFA as he left the race or Kerry in 2004 speaking of the need to keep fighting for the issues we fought for, Edwards did speak of continuing the fight against poverty. The tone in all three cases was different than the speeches a week or months before when the possibilities were there.

I'll admit that my alliegance is more to Senator Kerry than anyone else. Just as you trust Edwards over anyone else, I trust Kerry. As to 2008, I have posted for more than a year that almost by process of elinination - I am for Obama out of the then top three. I also thought well of Dodd and Biden.

[file83]

108. Wow. What a brilliant plan. It worked well for Ross Perot.

Drop out.

Back in.

Drop out.

One last shot.

Drop out.

Vote for me!

Lose.

[ChiciB1]

110. AND... Who Might YOU Be Supporting?? If Your Candidate Was PUSHED

does that mean he/she DROPPED OUT?? Different set of circumstances here!

[kelligesq]

112. You forgot to menton Perot was threatened with harm to his daughter

and who asked you anyway.

[ChiciB1]

117. Very Telling... The Daughter Thing!!!! And People With Cars Who

have "accidents" and all that STUFF! Oh, my memory!!!

I have lots of memories about who I'm thinking about! And THAT really torques me!!!

[liberalla]

120. Woo Hoo!

This is so cool!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[unapatriciated]

121. two votes for John in this household.

I knew it wasn't by choice because the numbers were going up not down. So it had to be pressure and I too think it was Kennedy. Peter and I will be voting Tuesday in the very red state of Georgia. Check out peters vid for The Edwards Revolution on youtube. username lame54. And for all you Duers lame say's hello, Unfortunately our pc crashed and we lost all our files. We bought a new mac so it will take some time for him to learn how to use this and start making vids again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxOYF9ZAe0

[vanbean]

126. I am voting for JRE in the NM Feb 5th primary.

I know for sure that my brother and father are as well. I am also pretty sure I can convince my sister, mother and other brother and possibly SIL as well. Until JRE himself tell me not to vote for him I will continue to support him. I am also willing to help the draft movement.

[kelligesq]

129. Good on you guys :D I am thrilled, wish John could be reading all of this

it would be such a pickmeup for him and fulfilling.

Will count you in..

get all your friends to vote for John too on the 5th...

got to get him most votes we can in every state.

It's kinda up to us, cause he wont be allowed to campaign until sometime in
March I guess.

[unapatriciated]

131. He is still our guy

I have a lot of family in California who were voting for John, I will be calling all of them this weekend and encourage them to stay with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxOYF9ZAe0

[kelligesq]

132. Thanks Unapatriciated - that's teriffic - if you have a printer a little ways

upthread in a post to CHICH there's a letter/flyer

"Why I'm Voting For John Edwards on Feb 5 - Give John The Power"

I think you'll like it, but if not you can change it.

John's site put it up on front page blog yesterday and that's when we
knew he wants those votes and delegates still.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4337743&mesg_id=4344239

[flyarm]

143. Elizabeth has been known to read DU..Hello Elizabeth!!..eom

[kelligesq]

133. Please Keep Kicked for THe Night Crew :D any R's r good too

:applause:

:bounce:

:toast:

[balantz]

135. I'm sure John is fully aware what we are all up to, voting for him.

I wonder what he is thinking about it all? He certainly hasn't released a statement telling us not to. Do you suppose this word is getting out fully? I've seen it discussed a lot at the Edwards campaign site. I've been telling the few people I know to vote for him.

[ShadowLiberal]

136. Is it really a good idea to make Edwards a king maker?

Is it really a good idea to make Edwards a king maker at a potentially brokered convention? I'm sorry but I just don't see the point of voting for Edwards now, if we really didn't have a nominee until we held our convention then we'd probably be screwed no matter who we picked because we'd be fighting each other for months while the republicans are earning votes for the general election.

I don't have anything against Edwards being our nominee, but I think when someone drops out his supporters should just pick a new person to support who hasn't dropped out yet.

[saracat]

138. Do you? Well, if one finds our choices morally wrong, are we still supposed to "Move On" ?

And frankly, I see no differnce between our choices and it appears the only one who could beat McCain has been shoved out but whatever.I say screw them I want a brokered convention where the voters can be heard and not just the PTB.

[MonkeyFunk]

154. so you want the convention to nominate someone other

than the candidate who got the most votes? How democratic!

[kelligesq]

209. Monkey Funk - as I recall you're an O supporter - we've heard yr opinion, now wouldnt u like to go

spend time with other O supporters

[MonkeyFunk]

307. You don't recall so good

[karynnj]

312. DU has a search function - or you can look at the avatar

I agree with Monkey funk here and I wish he/she were on Obama's side!

I thought it appalling when Carville in March 2004 was suggesting that some delegates weren't bound and if they all didn't vote for Kerry, there could be a brokered convention that could turn to HRC who would be a great candidate. This time if the voters pick HRC or Obama, I think it would be equally appalling for the electors to pick someone who did not get the votes, especially someone people could have voted for as his name was on the ballot. (In fact, I would be horrified if they turned to Gore or Kerry (the person I most wanted to be President) - because it would be a very bad day for our democracy. Given my opinions of HRC and Kerry - that shows how deeply I feel this.)

[kelligesq]

164. JOHN EDWARDS DID NOT SAY NE DROPPED OUT- let's make that clear

he said his campaign was suspended

you have a right to vote whatever way you want

Yes John needs delegates and votes...the kingmaker idea came from the talkig heads, not from John

John Edwars is our candidate. he needs votes and delegates

since the press is the one saying he dropped out, not suspeneded

we will have a draft edwards campaing if he doesnt get enough votes and

delegates in the next three days

[Andrea]

237. Why wouldn't it be?

It would give the people more of a voice.

I frankly don't understand why everyone feels it is such a good idea to wrap up our nomination so early. All that does is give the Republicans more time to do oppo research, attack and smear, and give us less news coverage.

As long as things are still in flux, the Democrats will get coverage. If we settle on a nominee too soon, we won't be very newsworthy until the convention. the Republicans aren't hellbent on settling everything right away, why should we be?

[ChiciB1]

137. Just Another Kick Here... Keep This Going... n/t

[flyarm]

139. HEY I HAVE PICTURES OF JOHN LAST SATURDAY NIGHT IN S.C.

during his speech in Columbia S.C. after the election results came in..i was up next to the podium..right behind the photographers..
i was a volunteer for him so i was right up next to the stage..

but i don't know how to post them..does anyone want to do it for me..if you do pm me your email address so i can send them to you to post..

thanks..fly

[ChiciB1]

174. Get 'Em Out... I'll Be Back Soon... Gotta Do the Super-Bowl Shopping For Food

hoopla right now! Now THAT SUCKS!

[Moloch]

144. You people are living in a fantasy world.

Its over. The man dropped out of the race. He will never win the presidency.

Why would you throw away your vote on someone who isn't even running? Its time to fall into line for the good of the country and the party.

[flyarm]

147. what party? the party that ignored a great man being ignored by the media? or the party

that allowed this to be a two person race from the get go and ignore good dems? or the party that will now allow immunity for the telecoms? or would it be the perty that has shit on it constituants and ignored the pres pissing on the rule of law in this country and destroying the constitution..

i see very little difference anymore between two parties..i just wonder how so many will excuse the dem party when they take over the new world order..it will only be a batton switch..

fly

[still_one]

156. Thank you. Wow, you convienced me there is no difference, no reason to vote

Hell everyone knows there is no difference between the Dems and republicans on national healthcare
everyone knows there is no difference between the Dems and republicans on social security
everyone knows there is no difference between the Dems and republicans on medicare
everyone knows there is no difference between the Dems and republicans on choosing justices for the Supreme Court

hmmmmmm, really?

I'll tell you what, the Dems have been screwed up for some time, but they are not as screwed up as the repukes.

You don't want to vote for the Democrats, fine, but that won't change the reality that it will be either a Democrat or a republican that will occupy the white house in 2008, and I guess the only alternative you have is to go with a third party, or start your own party, or maybe your own country

Have a good day

[Der Blaue Engel]

149. FALL INTO LINE?

Oh, brother. :eyes:

[Lugnut]

163. Can you imagine?

Fall into line like good little sheeple. :wow:

[kelligesq]

165. damkira, glad your'e voting for Obama or Hillary - BUT WE ARE NOT so

please honor our decisions

[Name removed]

199. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[kelligesq]

207. do you realize how out of line you are?

[earth mom]

213. When someone tells me I must fall in line that sounds ominous & Nazi-esque to me.

Do you realize I was NOT replying to you but to #144?!

If so, then YOU are out of line for telling me how to feel or what to post.

I really don't understand why you have jumped on my post when I am pro Edwards while that poster I was replying to #144 has basically sh*t on this thread with their post!

Perhaps you should read my posts here on this thread and elsewhere on DU before you jump on me here.

Wow. Frankly I am just stunned by your reply.

[kelligesq]

218. then my bad - I'm not reading in order, but full thread - apparently

it comes out differently

but it's not good to say/call Nazi anything you know?

except if you're talking about boooooooooosh - where it is true. :)

[earth mom]

224. OK, I understand what happened and where you are coming from.

But aren't we being "Good Germans" if we ignore the type of rhetoric the Nazi's used if it's being used here on DU too?

I just can't in good conscience let stuff like that slide. Maybe it comes out unkindly and sounds harsh, but I am truly disgusted and alarmed by words such as those in post #144. I think we all should be.



That said, no hard feelings with you I hope! :hi:

[Moloch]

239. Belittlement.

@TheGoldenRule

Its fine that you disagree with my post, but to compare it with Nazism is to belittle the Holocaust and the death and destruction the Nazis left in their wake. That was extremely insensitive and I think you should apologize for that.

John Edwards had the grace and maturity (eventually) to drop out of the race for the good of the party. It is a shame that his supporters can't do the same.

Democrats do have to fall into line. There are still two contenders for our nomination and it is crucial to support one of them. Its all fine and good to beat your chest and talk about how bad these last eight years have been and be self-satisfied that you didn't support the current administration -- but if you aren't going to work for a Democratic administration and legislature, then you might as well stand for all the things republicans have pushed.

[kelligesq]

276. Damrika, your support is for Hillary & or Obama you

are not going to change anyone's mind here....

it is obvious.

You've said your piece. No one is agreeing with you.

are it appears you are here solely to create an annoyance.

if that's the case, I can ask everyone to put you on ignore

[Der Blaue Engel]

278. Stop telling us to fall into line

and maybe people will stop comparing you to oppressive groups who demand that everyone does as they say. Step like a goose, honk like a goose, and people are going to think you're a fucking goose.

We don't have to support anyone but the candidate we believe in. This is a primary. That's how it works.

[kelligesq]

298. U GOTTA HEAR THIS:

I've just been informed that the other two campaigns have offered money to people

who can get the Edwards people to change their vote

LOLOLOLOOLOLOO :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Think we might have some trolls here panning for gold ??? ha ha ha ho ho ho

[Andrea]

238. It can be hard to follow

when a thread gets this long. I try to always look over to the right and see which post someone is replying to. Just my $.02

[Yael]

225. I think he wasn't paying attention to who you were responding to

that happened up thread in a few places as well.

:hi:

[earth mom]

227. Yes, That's what happened. It's confusing sometimes!

:hi:

[Yael]

223. No, the time to "fall into line" is in the General

I for one could care less whether Candidate A or Candidate B wins the primaries. The primaries are when we vote the issues (and the message), the GENERAL is when we all line up like lemmings and jump off the cliff together.

You don't note whether you are a C or an O.

Would you rather me vote FOR John and send a message to the party about where my values lie -- or AGAINST your candidate?

Please think about that before you respond.

[kelligesq]

232. Yael, have to go out until 6PM - will u take over thread? also

seem to be some non-believers cause the link on the announcement is not working

to the Rhose Island Paper

also wonder if we goodle NBC 10 which also had the announcement can we put it up here if found

also some are worried that John is not on all 24 balllots, you checkeed and said yes...

can you post or link to the site you found that he is on all ballots for Feb 5

thanks gotta run

scuse the typos

making new link to the newspaper announcement I guess pretty important

also link to edwards.com where it's on the blog???? you think that 's a good idea or not.

thanks..running

[varelse]

240. Its time to fall into line for the good of the country and the party.

Which line are you in?

[kelligesq]

277. FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY I'M IN JOHN EDWARDS' LINE

as far as the party goes, it's been hijacked by the right.

It's not my party anymore

[varelse]

291. Ah same line I'm in

the question was directed at damkira, though.

Edwards already has my vote anyway, so my question to damkira was posed out of curiousity, rather than a request for guidance ;)

[iris5426]

145. I'm in as well, for all of it!

Great discussion here with an even greater purpose...

I'm in PA as well, but John will have my vote even if I have to write it in...my sister lives in CA and was planning to vote for him. She was/is now leaning to vote Obama as an anti-Hillary vote, but I am working on her!!

[grmamo]

160. iris, I like you image shown in the group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=257&topic_id=5624&mesg_id=5732

[cooolandrew]

146. Once it's on John Edwards.com I'd take it for gospel many try to distort votes.

[Guaranteed]

148. Whoooooo! Jump into the casket! nt

[Biscottiii]

150. WA State here, GLAD to find that I'm not alone!

Got my primary absentee ballot yesterday and plan to vote for Edwards. Won't do much good (since the WA Dems don't recognize that WA Statewide primary, while the WA Repubs do). I've decided not to waste the time going to the Dem's Caucus meetings next Saturday Feb 9th (which the WA Dems DO recognize & they just sent me a postcard telling me WHERE to appear at the school nearby) since they would just yank my caucus vote as support towards Clinton or Obama. But it will feel good to indicate to the Dems my feelings, at the very least, on the paper ballot after the State provides the counts.

Seems TOTALLY WRONG that they've allowed the corporate MEDIA to select the final two Dem candidates so early in the game - with the Dem Party's blessings IMO. Why even put on the 'pretense' of holding a primary election in the first place? Granted, I will vote the GE in Nov with the last Dem left standing, AFTER I stick a clothespin on to pinch my nose!!!

[kelligesq]

170. BISCOTTI - DU MAIL ME - I HAVE A SUGGGESTION but

have to go out to chiropractor - supposed to have left 15 mins ago, be back this afternoon

[cgrindley]

151. Face reality... crazy shit has to stop

it's over. He quit. He's gone. He's toast. He's a ghost. He's Casper.

[mogster]

152. Edwards is the most electable candidate

And I think he'll be a great president. Glad to hear this :-)

[still_one]

157. Maybe, but he didn't and he doesn't have the numbers.

Vote for your conscience, but whether it goes to the Convention decided or undecided, Edwards will not be the nominee. He doesn't have the votes.

[MonkeyFunk]

155. So he announced his reentry into the race

with a one-sentence announcent reported in the fifth paragraph of a story about the lottery to determine ballot order?

Come on.... he's not back in the race. This is crazy.

The headline of this OP is just wrong.

[kelligesq]

171. Hill bots & Obamanuts....pls go someplace else with your gloom & doom-we're not buying yr propoganda

[MonkeyFunk]

180. Propoganda? (sic)

You seriously believe he has re-entered the race, based on this story?

That's delusional. You think he might, like... ya know... actually ANNOUNCE it or something?

And why would he drop out on Wednesday and re-enter on Friday? And not tell anybody?

[kelligesq]

210. Monkey - your problem appears to be you dont read - if you did

you'd know why.

then again it's necessary to be able to understand what you are reading

[desertflamingo]

159. been workin' my fingers to the bone...

stumping for je online. WE THE PEOPLE should decide for whom we vote, and so i urge ALL edwards democrats to vote your heart on super tuesday and beyond and send a message LOUD and CLEAR. he wants us to vote - for some reason he's not saying so out loud. that's ok. until HE says DO NOT VOTE FOR ME, i'm votin' for him. wanting to stay on the ballot in RI tell me he still wants my vote.

further, randi rhodes has been saying our votes will be thrown out. well, i went onto je's website and many other diehards asked the same question and the answer is - OUR VOTES WILL COUNT. so i sent her this email just a little while ago...

randi...

i am a devoted listener and an enthusiastic cheerleader, and have been for many years; however... with all due respect, your repeated claim that voting for john edwards in the upcoming primaries would be throwing our votes away - that the ballots would be useless and tossed - is wrong. edwards has NOT dropped out - he has suspended his campaign and can still garner delegates as long as he meets a 15% threshhold. you are doing a HUGE disservice to your loyal listeners, who also have a right to vote for the candidate of their choice, by making that erroneous claim. i urge you, in fairness, to please thoroughly research this and correct it for those folks who do not have access to the internet and only have you and air america hosts as their progressive political informants. i still love you, randi, but on this i, and all the other edwards supporters AND lovers of you - the goddess of radio - implore you to make this correction as many times as you claimed the votes would not count. thank you and love you muchly (y'know, as much as a person can of a virtual stranger!)

a diehard edwards democrat from california

please, fellow edwardians, DO NOT GIVE UP. we still have a chance to save our country. do not listen to naysayers and sheep. VOTE YOUR HEARTS!!


EDWARDS DEMOCRAT

[kelligesq]

217. Desert Flamingo -Fantastic - luv the name - heard Randi is a

obamanut

also she's been very weird for many months- lots of ppl complaining

think she's also no longer supporting impeachment

sounds like some of those politicians she's been courting have gotten to her

sell out or maybe it was that mugging/beating

besides her ego has gotten very inflated and a lot of the time she;s downright nasty

[desertflamingo]

297. yup yup...

and thanks (re: name :D

yeah i was an avid listener, but she's different lately. hmmm... maybe that mugging was exactly what many of us thought it was. wow. anyway, air america i think is predominantly obama which really depresses me. i'll vote for hillary before obama and that's NOT gonna happen.

EDWARDS DEMOCRAT

[cynthia]

318. I have a hard time listening to all the Obama crap on Air America

I switch to classical music whenever they start up again. Randi has been very different lately, I can't bear to listen to her anymore.

[desertflamingo]

319. true, isn't it?

so weird. i was so addicted to her for so long and then... does seem right after the "oh, my dog pulled me down and i smashed my face into the sidewalk" that she changed - significantly. uh huh. and yes, obama crap says it all. god, can someone wake me when this awful nightmare is OVER?

[peacock]

162. Two votes from TX for JRE

Sorry I can´t recommend yet, but would if I could.

[Liberal Dose]

166. YES! Proving that he's listening, and cares

*doing a happy dance* :hi:

:kick:

[RoccoR5955]

169. Go Edwards!!!

:kick:

[kelligesq]

176. COOD MORNING EDWARDIANS - You brilliant bunch of sunshiny people ! gotta

go out but be back at 2

Here's the list of states for Feb 5 primaries and the letter that was put up on John's Front page by his staff I guess.. if any of you can post this on DU's state forums or Edwards forums - go for it

and wherever else you post that knows John Edwards is THE ONE

Here's the states and a post for you to copy
Alabama,
Arkansas,
Delaware,
Missouri,
New Mexico Democrats,
North Dakota,
Oklahoma,
Utah
West Virginia Republicans
Alaska,
Arizona,
California,
Colorado,
Connecticut,
Georgia,
Idaho Democrats
Illinois,
Kansas Democrats
Massachusetts,
Minnesota,
Montana Republicans
New Jersey,
New York
Tennessee.

Why Im Still Voting For John Edwards on Feb 5 - Give John the Power

I'm still voting for John Edwards on Feb 5. John has framed the issues all along - Single Payer healthcare, not
Universal, lobbyists out of the elections, America taking care of our Vets, and giving a chance for affordable college, bringing home our people from Iraq within a year without permanent bases in Iraq, restoring America and every issue until Obama and Clinton "borrowed" his populist stance.

But "borrowing" words is not a commitment to carry them out whichever
one gets the nomination for the general election.

That is why we must must must continue to vote for John Edwards on Feb 5 in all
primaries.

The more delegates he collects even though he has "suspended" his campaign (I suspect because of the MSM essentially boycotting coverage of him and the failure of the feds to match funds until March) the more power John will have to extract a written committment from either or both candidates to adhere to John's
and our populist issues

(we know there isn't enough time to let all the states know John is "IN" only 3 days, but do the best we can, cause after these primaries, we start our DRAFT JOHN EDWARDS campaign and we;ll have from March to November TO MAKE JOHN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES- THANK GOD !!!!!!!!! )

[Cleita]

173. That's good because I already voted for him by mail. n/t

[kestrel91316]

182. He's still getting my vote on Tuesday.

[yy4me]

184. Best News Ever!!!!!

[benny05]

185. I'm still voting for him on Tuesday in IL

There is no other candidate for me.

[kelligesq]

222. /WOW, best picture yet - I love that one

[ClassWarrior]

187. If he's still in it when I vote, he's got mine.

Delegates.

NGU.

[lisainmilo]

188. If he had stayed in

I believe his numbers would have gone up, we were just beginning and there were many undeciders.

However, I will be voting for him (if he is on the ballot), so will my family.

BTW..... I just put my JRE sign out in my yard! I got them the day he suspended the campaign, but what the hell putting them out now can't hurt. :)

[kelligesq]

221. Great Lisa - ABOUT SIGNS - CAN THOSE VOTING ON FEB 5

BRING YOUR EDWARDS SIGNS OR MAKE A BIG ONE ON ART BOARD


AND HOLD IT OUTSIDE YOUR VOTING PLACE 100 FEET AWAY OR ON A BUSY STREET

CORNER NEAR VOTING "JOHN IS BACK - VOTE EDWARDS "

of course before or after you have voted.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY TIME , DURING THE NEXT THREE DAYS ?

WE HAVE TO MAKE JOHN VISIBLE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW HE'S IN AND HES ON THE BALLOTS

ESPECIALLY CALIFORNIA - THEY HAVE 400 DELEGATES

[GoldieAZ49]

189. "Uncommitted" will appear first - That best describes John Edwards

"Uncommitted" will appear first on the Democratic ballot in the Rhode Island presidential preference primary, Secretary of State Ralph Mollis said Friday.

[peacock]

197. No it doesn´t

best describe JRE.

[kelligesq]

226. JOHN EDWARDS IS ON THE BALLOT IN RHODE ISLAND - so there is no confusion VOTE JOHN EDWARDS

[balantz]

191. Go Johnny Boy!!!

I'm still committed, that won't change.
:kick: :bounce:

[wundermaus]

194. Ass Kickers Unite!

Time to get this party started!

Time to lift this country up by the Grass Roots and show 'em Who's the Boss!

We, the People of the United States ELECT our President!

Time to End the sElection Process of the Corporatists.

Now is the time for our generation to come to the defense of our liberty!

Edwardians, Forward!

[kelligesq]

280. Good post VMAUS - great spirit - and true words

:toast:

[Phred42]

198. THE LINK DOSEN'T WORK - IS THIS A PHONY?

ARE WE SURE THIS ISN'T BS?

THE LINK dosen't work

[kelligesq]

233. asking Yael to fix it or put up new one - 4 some reason I never get link right - its no BS - its for

REAL

John is in - why else would he call rhode island and ask them to re-instate his
name....

he wants those votes

[RestoreGore]

204. Well, I guess I'm not finished quite yet...

Voting for him Tuesday then and telling those I had convinced to vote for him to do so as well. And as to the post her explaining all this, all ic an say is what lowdown dirty bastards there are in this party. No wonder Al Gore had enough as well. Can't blame him one bit. So my vote Tuesday will be for John Edwards and all those pushed out by the elitist pricks in this party who think they own it.

[RestoreGore]

205. Oh, and he will be on the ballot in NJ. They have received no withdrawal letter from him

So vote!

[RestoreGore]

206. Dupe

[7horses]

220. Vote John Edwards!

You can vote for your first choice: John Edwards, even if his name is not on the ballot, you can write his name in. He suspended his campaign, he didn't end it.

[kelligesq]

231. JOHN EDWARDS NAME IS ON ALL THE FEB 5 BALLOTS, Yael checked & his name is on all- IF U CAN

MAKE A SIGN VOTE JOHN EDWARDS

AND HOLD IT OUTSIDE YOUR POLLING PLACE

FOR THE DAY, SUNDAY AND MONDAY AND TUESDAY 100 FEET AWAY FROM POLLS OR

AT CORNER ENTRY TO POLLS 100 FEET AWAY IT WILL BE A BIG HELP


AND TELL THEM HE'S IN - HIS NAME IS ON THE BALLOT - HE'S BACK

[kelligesq]

236. Yael, pls read post 232 - thanks

:toast:

[kaygore]

242. Excellent idea

We vote the following Tuesday here in Virginia. I hope that he is on the ballot. I pledged to help with Obama through MoveOn, but if Edwards is back, then all bets are off! Go, Edwards!!!!!

[kelligesq]

282. Well KAY, 30 % of move-on wants someone else - so I will be using the dem list

to tell voters that John is still in and he will be on your ballot, please vote for him

[William S Stamps]

245. John Did His Part. Now We Do Our Part.

The corporate media believes it has wiped John Edwards from the minds of American voters. They think they have made him disappear and that voters have no choice in the matter. The candidates will be determined by the dark side of corporate America. They believe they have control over who the candidates will be.

They did not take into account the Internet. It has already proven a great tool for fund raising as Howard Dean demonstrated. It can accomplish things that were never considered before. For example,a grassroots Internet ground swell so innovative and large that it cannot be ignored.

Under the circumstances, John Edwards has done all he can. If you supported John Edwards, then continue to support him. Remember, he "suspended" his candidacy. Do it in an innovative way using the Internet. Think about what you can do to put John Edwards back on the front page and at the top of the newscast and the subject of blogs and message boards. Think about this. Then do it. Do it now because Super Tuesday approaches fast.

[kelligesq]

284. Kick it.

[kelligesq]

286. READ THE POST ABOVE BY WILLIAM STAMPS, please

:toast:

[LVjinx]

241. Uh Oh

Obama supporters will be furious! Edwards backers are supposed to vote for him now, don't you know?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

243. What? Why did he drop out? I'm so terribly confused. nt

[Yael]

244. Hes not "back in" -- the OP is misleading

He just asked that his name be kept on the RI ballot.

Likely something to do with state laws and what he can and can't do with funding (pay people?)

Just a guess.

He won't be on the ballot in PA, I don't believe, and the deadline for that is next week. If he was "back in", we would be told to go forth and collect signatures for that, but we haven't.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

247. I'm going to check his website to see if he asked his supporters to continue to vote for him?? nt

[kelligesq]

288. Yael, you say 'Just a Guess" you dont have direct advice from JRE or his campaign mgr to post that

does a candidate have to be present to register?

how much does the registration cost?

and you dont have enough petitions to get him on Pa ballot do you?

Since JRE is already on 24 Feb 5 ballots,
if he didnt intend to be "in"
why would he have made sure on Feb 1 that his name WAS on the Rhode Island
ballot.

Have you e mailed the manager of his website as I suggested ?

Or perhaps he's not concerned with Pennsylvania in April primary as its too late. He appears to be on March ballots.

or he may have reservations about registering in a state that is
mostly Republican?

but unless you make the effort to contact the manager of the website you have no
direct information and will never know.

I know that he intends and wants to collect voters and electoral delegates because the manager of the website did contact me and direct me to the letter
on his front blog page " Vote for John Edwards on Feb 5 - Give John The Power".

Any other questions?

[indigoblue]

317. He cannot officially get back in

since he agreed to suspend his campaign. So, PA will be out unfortunately.

[kelligesq]

320. He's on ballot in Wisconsin, 24 super Tuesday,WashingtonState,,North Dakota, Rhode Island

that much I know so there's still voting for him.

Rhode Island and North Dakota he confirmed entry on Feb 1 and 2

I dont know, but maybe it depends on how many electoral votes a state has as to where he entered.

Pennsylvania is considered very Republlican so maybe they didnt enter there????

[kelligesq]

287. Sara, read this article

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22960576 /

then read my story about the heavyweight, above
Then put the two together
and see if a lightbulb doesnt go off.

[William S Stamps]

246. John Did His Part. Now We Do Our Part!

The corporate media believes it has wiped John Edwards from the minds of American voters. They think they have made him disappear and that voters have no choice in the matter. The candidates will be determined by the dark side of corporate America. They believe they have control over who the candidates will be.

They did not take into account the Internet. It has already proven a great tool for fund raising as Howard Dean demonstrated. It can accomplish things that were never considered before. For example,a grassroots Internet ground swell so innovative and large that it cannot be ignored.

Under the circumstances, John Edwards has done all he can. If you supported John Edwards, then continue to support him. Remember, he "suspended" his candidacy. Do it in an innovative way using the Internet. Think about what you can do to put John Edwards back on the front page and at the top of the newscast and the subject of blogs and message boards. Think about this. Then do it. Do it now because Super Tuesday approaches fast.

[TexasBushwhacker]

248. Well for one thing, EVERYTHING on his website is still ON!

You can still donate

You can still sign up for One Corps

There are still One Corps events all over country

There are still watching parties Tuesday night. I'm going to this one in Austin.

http://blog.johnedwards.com/event/4535

So you tell me. Does this sound like a candidate who's dropped out?

[ChiciB1]

260. It Sure Is... But People Think He's Out! I Got A Thank You For Supporting

him email, asked me to watch the video of THE SPEECH and then the WHOLE speech was written after that. Word for Word. That IS a message to me. Why would they put the whole speech in, word for word after asking that you watch the video??

I see it as a back door plea, but it's not actually being said!!

[TexasBushwhacker]

315. Yes, it's very disturbing that he would be pushed out ...

before Super Tuesday, especially considering that he is the only Democratic candidate that the polls show would beat ANY Republican candidate. It's just so weird. He wasn't a lot of people's first choice, but he's EVERYONE'S second choice, and maybe if he had more money and more people knew him and he got a fair amount of coverage from the MSM, his message would have gotten out there better. One would think that there would be more support from the Democratic fat cats for the candidate most likely to beat the GOP. But that's what one gets for thinking!

Anyway, I just got an e-mail from our One Corps organizer here in Austin thanking me for volunteering to help out with the refreshments for our Super Tuesday party (I work for Whole Foods), so it is still definitely ON.

[earth mom]

251. This does not belong on page 2. Kick! nt

[Habibi]

274. I will be voting for him in NY on Tuesday.

ETA: Shades of Dean. :cry:

[kelligesq]

289. Well Dean did it to himself, in this case John didnt do anything but buck the powers

no matter how much the media tried to ignore him , and the DLC tried to ignore
him, we know he's the honest non graft taking man to be President and restore
America.

!!

[cooolandrew]

290. WHY is it not on Johnedwards.com he'd need funding still if true, this is very fishy. Only favoursHC

[kelligesq]

293. Cool, why is what not on JE's blog? was there on 1/31 & 2/1

newspaper article and on front page of blog "Vote Edwards-Give John the Power

will go and look

[kelligesq]

296. COOL, here is link to article on EDWARDS 08 BLOG & the link works I just tried it

http://blog.johnedwards.com/story/2008/2/1/154658/8184

[kelligesq]

299. HEY GUYS - FLYERS ON EDWARDS BLOG "SUSPENDED NOT ENDED" for download

and others also , did not look at all

http://welikeedwards.com/node/163

[kelligesq]

302. AP - Feb 2nd Edwards Asks To Remain on North Dakota Ballot

http://www.in-forum.com/ap/index.cfm?page=view&id=D8UICIB80

[kelligesq]

303. Feb 1 he stays on Rhode Island, Feb 2 he stays on North Dakota, doesnt sound like dropping out

http://www.in-forum.com/ap/index.cfm?page=view&id=D8UICIB80

Plus he's on the 24 Super Tuesday States

[kelligesq]

304. Kicking for John

:kick:

[kelligesq]

305. K

:kick:

[wundermaus]

292. Sitting here shivering... can't afford the heat and thought to myself...

I need a sweatshirt!

So I went to http://store.johnedwards.com/

And bought an Edwards sweatshirt!



YOU CAN TOO!!!

I feel toasty already!

[kelligesq]

294. hee hee, you know that goes toward matching funds - but i

hear that he has gotten a big infusion of money -which is always a good thing

[kelligesq]

295. The "SECRET" of the "heavyweight" is more or less out. This reporter kind of hints at it

"glory, legacy, surprised since long relationship with Clintons is known,"

so read this entire article, and then let Teddy know what you think of him, as a

matter of fact, we should spread the two stories together far and wide...this

country deserves to know how Kennedy influenced the media and forced our

candidate out for revenge on the Clintons and to shine up his family legacy.

Who posts on Daily Kos ?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22960576

[kelligesq]

308. A good morning kick

:kick:

[kelligesq]

301. IMPORTANT UPDATE FROM CONFERENCE CALL WITH JOHN EDWARDS

First A Word Of Caution From Me:

Dear Fellow Edwardians,

You are pretty amazing people, but who would expect less when John Edwards is
a pretty amazing man.

Apparently our loyalty has driven some on other campaigns around the bend.

You will notice other threads telling you that Edwards doesnt want us to vote
for him, pretending that they were also for Edwards but now they are going to vote for so-&-so.

Don't you believe it for a minute.

There are real political operatives hanging around.

I have been informed that certain people have been offered payment if they can get Edwards supporters to switch to their candidate.


THIS IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT JOHN EDWARDS IS SUGGESTING.

IN HIS OWN WORDS, IN A CONFERENCE CALL HE SAID THE FOLLOWING:




Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-30-08 04:08 PM
Original message


Just got off a conference call w/John & Elizabeth Edwards


 Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 04:10 PM by Truth2Tell

I just hung up from a conference call with supporters of the Edwards campaign. Both John and Elizabeth spoke.

Some of my notes:

Elizabeth Edwards introduced John:

"...I felt in 2004 that we left the campaign without leaving a mark... not this time... a lot of the policies on the table are the result of John..."

John Edwards:

"We were just and righteous and correct in what we tried to do for the country..."

Decision not about money, wants to unite the Party, believes McCain has the Rep nom locked up. "My withdrawal was not money driven... had nothing at all to do with money... it was based on my belief that continued battle was not going to serve our country well... when it's a two person race someone emerges quickly... it's very clear to me that McCain is the Republican nominee..."

"...I wish you could understand how hard this is inside of me..."

Poverty will be the issue on which Edwards will continue to push for concessions. "I have not endorsed anyone... I pressed them (Obama and Clinton in conversation in the last few days) on details of what they would do about poverty... we have very detailed commitments from both of them... both of them have given me their word to do certain things if elected, at the convention... "

No endorsement before Tuesday. "I will be meeting with each of them... there is no chance it will happen (any endorsement) before Tuesday, or even after.. "

Take a breather and don't make any support decision yet. "I'm counseling you all to keep your powder dry... to take time, take a deep breath, don't be in a hurry ..."

"It's impossible to know what tomorrow holds..."


Saracat adds:

61. Right , In that same conference call Edwards asked we "keep our powder dry and endorse NO one" he told us to take our time, take it slow..in other words,"wait". Make of it what you will. Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 10:26 PM by saracat

[piesRsquare]

310. Voting Edwards in California on 2/5

:bounce:

[0007]

316. Hang in there sweetheart and bring home the bacon.

[mrbluto]

324. Wasn't going to vote this primary.

Didn't think it would much matter with JE out of it.

But I think I will now - for Edwards!

[kelligesq]

326. Mr B, it does matter - vote for him - good on you )

[kelligesq]

325. JUST SPOKE WITH ATTORNEY AT OUR LOCAL DEC -

Democratic Executive Committee.

He says John Edwards wording of "suspending" was highly unusual.

(he thought John didnt have the money, but he does and more to come with matching funds in March. He's for Hillary but mentioned John has the best health plan!)

"Yes, it means he could come back in" he says

So "Suspended Not Ended" is the accurate slogan

He also advises that delegates at the convention could draft John Edwards -

so its more important than ever that we get on those phones TODAY,if you dont

know how to get dem phone numbers - email me -

And remind people they can vote for John Edwards, he's on their ballot,

get JOhn Edwards the votes to get him delegates at the convention who will draft

him.

Anybody who has access to the States Forum on DU, please copy and print to each

state or your own state.

Go Edwardians for John Edwards, For Populism, For This Country, For Your Family

:bounce: