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Fri Feb-01-08 05:19 PM
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Hillary voted against the Anti-MoveOn res in Senate..What was Obamas vote again? |
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As for MoveOn.org, Clinton stood up for them in the Senate during the Petraeus kerfuffle. Barack Obama ducked that vote (just like he did Kyl-Lieberman). But MoveOn members endorsed Obama anyway. Yeah, that's the way to hold those politicians accountable. That'll show 'im.. what a bunch of phonies...
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:23 PM
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:37 PM
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17. I'd like MoveOn to refund my donation |
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it wasn't much, but I support Hillary Clinton for President, not Obama.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:25 PM
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3. Well, what was his vote? n/t |
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:26 PM
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:30 PM
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:27 PM
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5. OK, WE GET IT. You don't like Obama |
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You don't have to post it 1000 times.
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KennedyGuy
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:31 PM
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9. I realize you guys don't like dissent..but you can't censor us for not loking Obama |
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:33 PM
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Gawd, who is trying to "censor" you already? Get a grip.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:35 PM
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13. not censorship..just dont say anything we don't agree with |
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you ARE a case... priceless and stupid.. but a case..
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Fri Feb-01-08 06:33 PM
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39. The point isn't whom you say you support |
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the point is you are only a few posts south (if that) of being a board spammer.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:37 PM
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18. Who is this "we" you speak of? |
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Fri Feb-01-08 06:09 PM
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34. Please define "you guys" |
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:29 PM
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6. What about the vote that put Betrayus in Iraq in the first place? |
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What were the two candidates' positions on that vote?
:eyes:
NGU.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:31 PM
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:34 PM
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12. Well since one was just a mere state senator, he wasn't allowed to vote. |
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But, since he's been there, he's voted to fund it every chance he's had.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:38 PM
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21. I guess you could have a position or actually commit to a vote. Let's talk about how many senators. |
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:45 PM
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That's not what I asked...
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:32 PM
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10. Another lying thread. Wow, you got a million of 'em. |
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It's a common rethug trick to take a "maybe" and turn into a "really". Just like you are trying to turn Obama's NON vote into a REAL vote against MoveOn.
Come clean now. These are just joke threads, right? Pure comical value?
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:35 PM
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I don't see it. The OP doesn't say that Obama voted against MoveOn... he says he ducked out and didn't vote, which is true.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:39 PM
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22. Obama followed the John Kerry Route of Vote-Explanation |
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in voting for the resolution bnefore he voted against it.
Obama declined to vote on the actual resolution, showing his lack of a political spine. Moments earlier he had voted "yes" on a very similarly-worded condemnation of MoveOn, showing his true intentions.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:40 PM
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24. you ever have anything constructive to say ernie? |
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:35 PM
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14. Your outrage would mean more to me if you weren't a Hillary supporter |
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I think that's why I kinda like comments from Edwards supporters, or Kucinich. They have no dog in this hunt anymore, so I tend to take their outrage more seriously. If they say it sucks, it might just suck. When you say it sucks, I read it as "They didn't endorse MY candidate. Fuck em".
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:38 PM
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20. Well if it means anything, I'm an Edwards supporter, and I think this sucks. |
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They're heralding Obama as the "progressive candidate" that MoveOn members overwhelmingly support, and that's just not true.
I will say that I prefer Hillary over Obama, but I'm NOT a Hillary supporter. My preference is just that, a preference of one over another.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:39 PM
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I tend to look at you guys as the referee lately. Honest reactions are nice to have.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:44 PM
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26. I'm an Edwards supporter, and I think the voting record on... |
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...the Blank Check for Invasion is more important than the Move On censure.
NGU.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:48 PM
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Did you get a chance to vote in the Moveon poll?
:hi: btw
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:36 PM
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16. Would you like some cheese with your whine? |
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:37 PM
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who doesn't care about the moveon endorsement? :shrug:
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:41 PM
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25. I don't either, I just find it kind of pitiful on their part |
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to support the candidate without the political will to even give a "yea" or nay" on the final MoveOn/Petraeus resolution, while voting "yea" on a different version moments before.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:50 PM
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29. he wasn't aware he voted "yes" |
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:53 PM
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30. Would someone impartially try to explain what happened? |
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It sounds very strange to me.
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Fri Feb-01-08 06:13 PM
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35. Moveon had an 8 h vote of less than 1/10% of their membership and decided |
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based on that to endorse Obama. Alienating a lot of their membership - some of them Edwards supporters, as he wasn't an option, some of them monthly donors who didn't even get to vote. they'll lose a lot of members over this move.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:54 PM
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31. That was probab ly one he didn't show up for. But there were so darn |
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many he didn't show up for, it is hard to keep them all straight.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:58 PM
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32. I agree with his position & statement |
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I wouldn't have voted on it either, it didn't belong in the senate.
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Fri Feb-01-08 05:59 PM
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33. Sort of a Hobson's choice -so don't be too hard on Moveon |
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After all, remember how and why the organization got started....
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Fri Feb-01-08 06:14 PM
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36. They didn't have to endorse in the primaries! My money will now be used against my candidate? |
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Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 06:14 PM by robbedvoter
How f*ed up is that?
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Fri Feb-01-08 06:32 PM
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Not the brightest move, from an organizational perspective....
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Fri Feb-01-08 06:31 PM
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37. Obama and those present votes |
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