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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:27 PM
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Teresa Heinz Kerry: On Obama and the oft-ignored issue of environmental justice

When John and I were researching our book, This Moment on Earth, we spoke with hundreds of people across the country who are forming the modern core of today’s environmentalism. One of these was Cheryl Osimo, of the Silent Spring Institute (a non-profit scientific research organization in Massachusetts dedicated to identifying the links between the environment and women's health, especially breast cancer).

Cheryl became an environmental activist for a very personal reason: she was diagnosed with breast cancer and she started to look for answers. Their ground-breaking work found a link between estrogen-mimicking compounds in pesticides and higher incidences of breast cancer.

I’ve worked on environmental issues for over 25 years, and I’ve learned time and again about the nexus between our environmental crisis and our own health. From the warming of our planet to the toxic chemicals in our homes, the state of our environment is affecting us and our health more and more every day.

So when I was thinking about which Presidential candidate I would support, I knew I could only choose someone I believed would bring about the change we need in our national policy on environmental issues.

I know I found that candidate in Barack Obama.

I support his environmental policies. I know a bit about what is required to bring about change. There a lot of good people who care about environmental issues but who do not have the transformative quality or the capacity to break the barriers currently facing this nation. Barack Obama does.

I’ve looked at his record, and I’ve observed his career, and he has a leadership ability that is rare in public life. He is, in many ways, a lot like my husband. He’s a leader who listens, and a listener who unites.

At this critical moment for the Earth, we absolutely need someone who can fundamentally change the rules of the game to make new possibilities out of the old stalemates, to bring together the many in order to challenge the few.

The crisis of our environment, the crisis of our health -- these can’t wait any longer. We need broad, systemic change, and Barack Obama can achieve it. He can reshape our environmental debate, and he can bring about the new policies we need.

Barack Obama has the highest lifetime rating from the League of Conservation of anyone in the Presidential field. He worked with my husband on the landmark legislation to begin to increase fuel efficiency in our cars and trucks and revolutionize the way America drives. I was impressed with his courage and candor when he went to Detroit to tell the automakers, to their faces, that they needed to do better; Barack knows when to work with people, and when to challenge them.

Science is personal to me, like Barack. Barack is firmly dedicated to restoring scientific integrity to the White House. As the Silent Spring Institute has found in the link between breast cancer and toxins in our environment, the scientific community has made great advances in understanding the really large amount of toxins that are part of our everyday lives.

But the complete disregard for science by our current administration has not only twisted our environmental policy, but it has also held back the scientific community’s efforts to get a better handle on the causes and solutions of our environmental crises. Barack Obama is committed to reversing this trend and turning the full weight of our country’s scientific community toward this cause.

Barack’s background as a community organizer, working among the poorest of our nation, has led him to another aspect of environmentalism that is often ignored, but is so important to me: environmental justice. John and I wrote about this issue in This Moment on Earth, and we saw the effects of the environmental degradation in some of our country’s most vulnerable neighborhoods.

Barack will bring the lessons and experience of his days going door to door in some those vulnerable neighborhoods, and he will work hard to correct these inequities. I believe this because Barack is a man of action, he wants results. He understands how communities try to cope and survive and that knowledge is paramount to success.

Barack Obama has the wisdom of experience and the knowledge from scientific inquiry to bring a deep understanding of our environmental challenges to his role as President.

With that outlook, Barack Obama knows the problems we face and the solutions we must adopt. His plan to deal with climate change incorporates the best science in demanding an 80% reduction of greenhouse gases by 2050, and it works on the basis of "polluter pays," where polluters pay based on the amount of pollution they emit. And he’ll reinvest $150 billion in developing clean, affordable energy in the United States.

America needs a President who will take the lead on environmental protection. We have waited too long for a new direction – we need to finally begin moving forward – and I believe that by working to elect Barack Obama, we can take a giant step forward in our quest for a cleaner, safer environment.

I hope you’ll join me in supporting Barack Obama for President.


Thank you,

Teresa
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:31 PM
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1. Aw, that's so nice
I love Teresa :)

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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:39 PM
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6. Bill Clinton Gave us Al Gore
Obama hasn't come close.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:40 PM
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7. Robert Kennedy Jr. has more Credibility than
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 05:41 PM by neutron
a lady who married into wealth. He works for the environment every
day of his life. And he supports Hillary Clinton for President.
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Freedomofspeech Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:00 PM
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18. When Teresa Heinz Kerry lived in Pittsburgh...
she was very active in the Peacelinks Organization. She is a very bright woman.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #18
25. A very pampered, privileged woman.......
But what the hell is middle class struggle when you can live off a trust fund, eh?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:00 PM
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26. Is there something wrong with what she wrote?
Do you disagree with it?
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:23 PM
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31. Why is what she wrote any more special......
than what any true activist can write? Oh, right......she's married to John Kerry.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:24 PM
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32. Do you know enough about her to know if she is a true activist
or are you merely hostile towards her for being rich and for no other reason?

Do you know anything about her beyond that she's rich and married to John Kerry?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:32 PM
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35. Why don't YOU reply to my post about Teresa? Afraid you might LEARN something
about yourself and your proclivity to smear when you haven't a clue about their lives?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:34 PM
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36. They're rich. That's enough for some people.
Classism makes my teeth itch.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:30 PM
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81. Oh, lookee, I responded to your post and learned NOTHING.
I haven't time to look through 10000 posts everyday, honey.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:26 PM
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84. How about just the ones that reply to your post. Or do 10000 people reply to you every day?
Is there a reason you're so close minded when it comes to people who happen to have money? Is that all you know about her? Did you stop to find out anything else about what she may be doing for environmentalism, or about her philanthropy? Is there a reason you think it's okay to be prejudiced against someone based on lifestyle and income? Is this woman less than you because she happened to be raised in a higher income bracket?

If your hostility toward her is based on nothing more than that she is rich, then that is bigotted thinking in my book.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:41 AM
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89. The post you skipped over - ABOUT Teresa the woman you smear ignorantly.
She grew up assisting her father traveling from village to village in Africa to bring healthcare where there was none.

She marched against apartheid during dangerous times in South Africa.

She learned five languages to ASSIST relationships around the world through the UN.

In the US and with all the comforts in the world, the woman scrubbed her own family's toilets because she never thought herself above doing it herself.


She has directed many of her charitable trusts to go into the funding of healthcare clinics in poor communities - clinics that actually are run EFFECTIVELY.

She has directed more funds to environmentals measures and advances than just about any one single person in this country.

I wish you would alter your post. You have much to learn about those you choose to smear.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:44 PM
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64. She is a true activist and was one well before she met her husband
She was interested in the environment before she met either of her husbands, both of whom had better environmental records than Bill Clinton. (She and some cousins even have a beetle named after them in Mozambique - as they found it, couldn't identify it and took it to the natural science museum. She was pretty cool even as a kid)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #31
75. Your jealousy is showing and
it's not pretty.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:33 PM
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82. Well, strong, capable, independent women I admire.......
how come I don't worship Teresa? Hmmm.


Way off base........you don't read people very well, do you?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #82
87. You don't know very
much, do you?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:07 PM
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27. She grew up assisting her father traveling from village to village in Africa to bring healthcare
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 07:10 PM by blm
where there was none.

She marched against apartheid during dangerous times in South Africa.

She learned five languages to ASSIST relationships around the world through the UN.

In the US and with all the comforts in the world, the woman scrubbed her own family's toilets because she never thought herself above doing it herself.


She has directed many of her charitable trusts to go into the funding of healthcare clinics in poor communities - clinics that actually are run EFFECTIVELY.

She has directed more funds to environmentals measures and advances than just about any one single person in this country.

I wish you would alter your post. You have much to learn about those you choose to smear.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:26 PM
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33. I see no reason for the hostility myself, except for hostility toward the rich
which I have little patience for.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:36 PM
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83. Maybe it's high time to branch out and think about....well.....the poor?
I think the Happy Rich and Trust Fund Babies can look after themselves quite well. :sarcasm:
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:41 PM
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85. Teresa Heinz has done plenty for the poor. It takes money.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:47 PM
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88. She also was a pioneer in Green Building, starting it in the late
'80s early '90s by having the Heinz foundation buildings built that way in Pittsburgh, PA. Then she went to the Earth Summit in 1990 as a delegate to let the world know about the Green Building.

Did you know that now I turn on HGTV, or talk with my realtor about the latest building techniques for houses, and I am simply blown away by the fact that if it weren't for Teresa Heinz Kerry, who knows when Green Building would have caught on fire?

Ignorance really annoys me.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:38 PM
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38. No doubt you disapproved of Edwards for his house, right?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:41 PM
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63. Please reply to my post since I took the time to answer you with FACTS about
the person you are taking a shot at in yours.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:29 PM
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34. Maxine Waters and several in the Black Caucus have been fighting
for environmental justice when the term wasn't even known among the elite.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:54 PM
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42. Yes - some of us DO go back to the early70s on environmental racism and
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 08:43 PM by blm
if you were more familiar with that time you would also know that Kerry, also, was a leader on that issue since that time, and Teresa has been a serious advocate and philanthropic force on that issue for decades as well.

Any serious environmental advocate would know that and not take a swipe at Teresa and demean her interest here as an 'elite' nod to the issue.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:02 PM
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46. You must mean your reply for someone else. I said nothing demeaning
about Teresa or John Kerry. You Obama supporters are really quite nasty.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:08 PM
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49. "when the term wasn't even known among the elite' YOU said it.
Nasty is anyone taking a swipe at Teresa when they are so ill-informed.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:49 PM
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65. Where was the context for your comment?
I agree that Walters had been involved for years - but it was unrelated to the thread and to the comment on RFK jr that dissed Teresa.

Can you explain what it was intended to mean?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:09 PM
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50. Teresa has extremely strong environmental credentials and accomplishments
She was a leader in the green building movement in Pittsburg, that made it the greenest major city in the US. It was Teresa who hired McDonough to create a green foundation office for her. As it was highly successful other office followed suit. This culminated in Pittsburgh creating the largest green building in the country it's civic center. McDonough is one of the leaders in sustainable building. (http://www.gbproductnews.com/view_story.php?id=116).

Trying to find a link on the above, I found this right wing piece from 2004 - but found it hilarious as it had a great description of some of Teresa's work. Scan down to the Arnold article. I never knew that the Heinz stopped a highway through the Amazon! http://www.undueinfluence.com/heinz.htm

In 2007, John and Teresa released their wonderful book on environmental problems. (Even Newt Gingrich praised it recommending conservatives read it - but saying he didn't agree with Kerry's solutions.) The book tour was incredible as Both Kerrys raised many environmental issues. As a huge John Kerry fan, I admit that the best chapter is Teresa's on environmental toxins. In addition to the normal book tour, Teresa did a remarkable "blog tour" where she answered a huge array of questions - very personally and informally - and linked to a huge amount of information. (Here's a DU post with links to 15 "stops" on the tour)

In addition, she hosts an annual conference on environmental toxins, oncology, and women's health.

John and Teresa Kerry met at the RIO environmental conference where she was a non - governmental delegate chosen by GHWB on her merits as an environmentalist. After becoming friends at this conference, they co-founded "Second Nature" which had the goal of pushing the teaching of sustainability to college students. (http://www.secondnature.org/aboutsn/aboutsn.htm)

"Second Nature was founded in Boston in 1993 by a small group of forward-thinking leaders that included Dr. Anthony D. Cortese, Senator John F. Kerry (D-MA), Teresa Heinz Kerry, Bruce Droste, and others. This group sought to establish an organization dedicated to bringing about the change in society that is vital to the success and livelihood of every current and future living being: a change for a just and sustainable future."


I doubt this is a full list of Teresa's credentials - but they certainly show that she is not just a very wealthy woman - she is as committed to making the world better as her esteemed husband is.



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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:14 PM
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53. Teresa works for the environment every day as well
and has a broad array of accomplishments. On top of that, she is a very gracious, extremely lovely woman as those of us in the JK group who met her know. If you want to criticize wealth - RFKjr was born to it as his father was. I don't think it a problem in either case. Other than the fact that she did not endorse HRC, what is your problem?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. I think I will put you on Ignore now
You're like some little flea skittering around me.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. Haha!
Man, if I wasn't thinking the same thing.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:50 PM
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22. If you've noticed neutron jumps into threads in the first or second responses and writes a response
that doesn't apply to the response he is responding to. like above. He never initiates a post and he always has the same message. I believe he is a troll trying to cause dissension here.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. astute observation, Rhett!
do you have a life?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:20 PM
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29. Funny, I was wondering the same of you. You seem to be on a mission. nm
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:53 PM
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79. Curious neutron, haven't figured out why you edit so many of your responses. nm
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:48 PM
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15. Better search WTI - Jackson Stephens (Bill protecting Stephens lost Ohio for Gore)
Bill's decisions on WTI helped the Greens paint Gore as a sellout to corporatists at the time.

Many used WTI to smear the Dems as no different than the GOPs on the environment.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:27 PM
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59. Al Gore gave us Al Gore
Bill Clinton gets no credit at all there; Gore was already aware of and involved in environmental issues a long time before he became Clinton's running mate.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:35 PM
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61. Exactly. Gore and Kerry have been on the environment as an issue for over 35 years.
I believe both go back to 70 or 71 on their efforts.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #61
72. Right...
I know Kerry was an organiser for Earth Day 1970; and I'm pretty sure Gore became active on environmental issues around the same time.

And given Clinton's record on the environment both as a governor and as president,it's pretty absurd to think that Gore's environmentalism has much of anything to do with Clinton.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #6
62. Al Gore gets credit for Al Gore -
He had hearing on global warming likely before he ever met Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton had an AWFUL environmental record in Arkansas.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:34 PM
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2. Restoring scientific integrety to the White House (***sigh***)
I sure hope so.

Very beautiful letter from Teresa. She is a wonderful lady who says what's on her mind; no matter the political consequences.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:36 PM
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3. Very, very, fine. NT
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:37 PM
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4. Great letter by THK! She is very sincere and persuasive with
this letter of endorsement.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:37 PM
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5. Very fine statement from a very fine lady.
:)

Thanks for posting.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:41 PM
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8. Kick for Momma T
:kick:
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:41 PM
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9. nice...very nice
I have a huge amount of respect for Teresa. I'm glad we're supporting the same candidate.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:42 PM
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10. That's a Bigger Endorsement For Me Than Kerry
Teresa rocks!

I'm sure she is psyched about Obama's focus on preventative health care. I know the issue is dear to her.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:46 PM
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12. You said it, DrFunkenstein!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:51 PM
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66. I like both their endorsements
I loved Teresa's blog tour posts on preventative health care and other issues. She is an awesome person.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:46 PM
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13. You know Teresa is still steaming over Hillary's response to John's "botched" joke.
I can't say I blame her.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:48 PM
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14. Huh? I never read any account of THK "steaming" over HRC's
pile on with The Joke.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:11 PM
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28. Nah - that was me. See, Teresa is a hot babe and I'm a hot babe and they mixed us up.
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 07:12 PM by blm
I was the one steaming - - and still am.

LOL
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:21 PM
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30. No, she didn't say anything publicly but it wouldn't surprise me if she did say something.
I know it's speculation but if John didn't forget what Hillary said, you know Teresa hasn't forgotten either.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:58 PM
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69. I assume they both have excellent memories - but they both seem incredibly good in not carrying
grudges. Neither would base something as important as this on a grudge.

Kerry forgave Nixon and Colson when they met him in the 1980s. After all the pain they caused him and his family, that says something. He also endorsed Webb in the primaries - even though the man refused to shake his hand for 30 years and wrote a 2004 op-ed questioning his patriotism. Both were far greater, worse offenses than HRC. Kerry was the first to defend HRC when she was attacked for asking the Pentagon for an exit plan.

(from reading their book - it might be that they were not impressed with the Clintons' environmental record.)
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:52 PM
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17. Fine letter.
Will have to review Obama's program again as I have nothing but great respect for THK.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:07 PM
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19. I just love her.
Thanks, THK. You do your hometown proud.

This is awesome -

"He is, in many ways, a lot like my husband. He’s a leader who listens, and a listener who unites."

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:35 PM
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20. Awesome!
Teresa is Awesome!

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:40 PM
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21. Teresa and Caroline
It doesn't get any better than that, in my book!

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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:53 PM
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23. Thank you, Teresa
:applause:

She would have made a fantastic First Lady. :(
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:35 PM
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37. Good to see something positive. John Kerry may find it hard to keep his senate
seat if they continue to piss of so many people.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:48 PM
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39. Gee - then maybe Kerry should resort to BLACKMAIL to stay in office and threaten
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 07:48 PM by blm
ALL those complicit in protecting the BCCI criminals throughout the 90s. All the GOPs AND Democrats involved in the coverups.

You know - like OTHER Dem politicians use what they know to leverage Poppy Bush and his pals to surround themselves with power.

Whaddya think,j?
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:52 PM
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41. Oh dear. I hope he wouldn't do that.
His failure to win last time already jeopardized the future of our country. I hope he doesn't fail again.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:58 PM
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43. Bill Clinton won to keep BCCI books closed. Did the country WIN when he did that?
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 07:59 PM by blm
Did the 9-11 families WIN when he did that?

Did the millions of dead Iraqis and Afghani people who are dead now WIN because he did that?

How do you LIKE that we have had Bush2 all this time because Bill protected Poppy Bush and his thugs throughout the 90s?



http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

I hope one day Kerry spills what he knows and 'classified secrets' be damned.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:00 PM
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44. I wish he would, and until he does he continues to be part of the problem.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:06 PM
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47. Bill Clinton assured Kerry could not gain the access to the documents he needed
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 08:07 PM by blm
You know that. That's why your whole gang of Clinton loyalists targeted Kerry for years now and still do.

You need Hillary in there to continue the protection of BushInc just as Bill did for Poppy and Jackson Stephens throughout the 90s.

In fact, if Kerry went public with the classified details he'd not only be arrested, but Bill Clinton would come out and side with Bushes and claim Kerry was having a nervous breakdown. And the corpmedia would promote every word of it.

Some of us know WHO the real Democrats are and who wears a Dem mask as they push the fascist agenda.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:08 PM
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48. If John was running, he'd have my vote.
I don't disagree with much of what you say, but you are seeing things far more black and white than they are.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:22 PM
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56. I read the National Security Archives - I know the grey, too.
But black and white tells the truth at its most abbreviated and more easily understood way.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:31 PM
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74. Please stop speaking for Massachusetts residents...
I think we know a good deal more than you about Senator Kerry's chances in the next election...Just sayin'.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:38 PM
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78. Oh dear. And you just know I don't have any connections to Mass
:eyes:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:51 PM
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40.  So they support continuing to bow to the nuclear lobby?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:01 PM
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45. Obama can be moved by knowledgeable advisors - and he's uncorrupt enough to
be able to be moved.

Bill Clinton smothered Gore's best intentions on the environment. Like on WTI. Obama would likely reach out to true environmentalists like Gore and Kerry to advise his positions.

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:11 PM
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52.  Sorry, I don't believe that
If he really cares about the environment he should already know that nuclear is not part of the solution.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:20 PM
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55. I don't believe you. Obama isn't an intransigent personality who can't be moved
when faced with solid information and trusted advisors on environmental issues like Gore or Kerry.

Edwards didn't have a strong resume on the environment and he ended up moving to many of Kerry's positions when he needed to finesse his positions for his 2008 run.

Believe what you want. But I am quite certain YOU are wrong to view Obama so stubbornly.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:56 PM
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68. Well I suppose time will tell
oh, and the solid information is ALREADY HERE, just in case you didn't know.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:49 PM
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76. Yes - but his advisors will be people we can trust, who understand the environmental
issues and the political world's role in what can be done.

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:10 PM
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51. Yeah, but, how much can he possibly get done in 4 years?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:23 PM
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57. With advisors like Gore and Kerry - alot. Unlike WTI Clinton being advised by Poppy Bush.
.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:24 PM
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58. Hopefully, we won't ever have to find out....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:33 PM
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60. We already KNOW about Clintons and Bush and Jackson Stephens and WTI.
Clinton squashed Gore on WTI deal.

I'd say Gore and Kerry will advise Obama correctly for the sake of the global environment while Clinton will always be about Clintons and the Bushes and their fascist agenda policies.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:19 PM
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54. Wow. Another positive Kerry thread turned into a flamewar
Go figure.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:53 PM
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67. Enthusiastic K&R.
Thanks blm for bringing us this here. :thumbsup:

Wonderful to hear from Teresa!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:59 PM
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70. I actually still get hot and bothered when I think about her or see a pic.
How's that for a happily married woman - me, attracted to a hottie like Teresa, also happily married....heh. Oh well. ;)

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:06 PM
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71. I like Teresa.
I got to see her and John at the Disney rally in 2004. When Neil Diamond began "Sweet Caroline", Teresa's head began to sway back and forth as she was seated next to her hunky husband. Seeing those two together that moment gave me a real sense of what a dynamic couple they are.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:29 PM
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73. Thank you, Teresa.
You and John would have been an awesome White House team, yourselves, and your support now is very greatly appreciated!

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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:04 PM
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77. Theresa would have been a wonderful first lady.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:00 AM
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80. I agree, and this is a very nice endorsement for Barack Obama.
:hi:
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:51 PM
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86. Thanks THK!
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