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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:41 PM Original message |
Here is why I do not want Hillary Clinton to get the nomination and become President |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Your reasoned, considered criticism has NO PLACE on this board! |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I do not start threads typically |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
49. What happened to 2007? All the data collected and posted if 2006? |
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janetblond (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good points ... |
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katmondoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Republicans have done a great job as usual |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. My information comes from extensive reading |
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virgdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. You have just clarified.. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. You are in the same boat as I, my friend |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Amen, I agree completely, especially about the DLC |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. We will have less of a chnce for many, many things. |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. She showed her contempt for the DNC by claiming delegates |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. There was a post earlier calling |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
66. I watched Bill Maher last night |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. She Thinks Militarism Equals "Tough" |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:55 PM Original message |
Her words in the debate were awful to hear for me. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. "she will sick attack dogs on whomever dares to stand in her way." |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It does not work for our side |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Hogwash -that's just more defeatist talk |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. On the issues |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I don't necessarily disagree with that |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. It's what she will fight for that bothers me |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Your issue is hog wash. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. Obama will get away with what he can when he can. How is that for reasoning. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. That means he is malleable |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Obama's lack of ties to the DLC is one of his biggest plusses. |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
12. "Hillary Clinton has proven time and again to be craven for power." |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Same here |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Considering your avater, I figured you would |
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Invidious (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. The truth is hard to read isn't it? n/t |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Me too. n/t |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
13. Thanks Zodiac, |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Thank you |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
22. for me point # 4 out weighs all the rest |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
23. Well put, perfect! |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. But there is no evidence |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. My arguments are based on my own readings/research |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
27. Dammit, just when I was getting comfy on the Hillary love train |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Just withhold jumping on any bandwagons just yet |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
31. Are you a republican? Reads like a Rush Limbaugh memo. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. If you have nothing to say |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. the whacko left and the whacko right |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. They do indeed. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. and who would that be? |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Oh, gee, I wonder. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I wonder.... |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. No. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I would argue that someone who refuses to vote for the Dem |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I disagree. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Bush won Florida by 525 votes |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Bush didn't win Florida. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. ok, that's enough |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Bye! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. There are many "SAFE" states where voting for a 3rd Party |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
32. You misused "craven" |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I would not be surprised if I did |
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elixir2 (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
37. It's hard to read the entire post when the first graph includes "craven", "dirty tricks" .... |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Sorry, but how else to describe what has gone down to this point |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
39. dont believe everything you read on the internets. nt |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
41. If you're not going to vote for someone, don't complain when they don't win, okay? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. K&R |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
46. Here's to clear thinking |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I second that emotion. |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Welcome to DU, TexasObserver! |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. thanks |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Welome to DU, TexasObserver |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. The Lone Star State!! |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. OMG! Molly is that you! |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
57. Anyone.... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
59. #3 is my reason for not supporting her for the primaries. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. It is my biggest reason, too |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
65. Thanks, ZI. Another Kucinich/Edwards Democrat here. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Much appreciated |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
71. Hillary runs a very clean campaign she can be proud of. To be positive and gracious. |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
72. Yep you summed it up well DLC is dragging democrats right and they win we lose the party. |
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