"Dignity": ROBERT KENNEDY JR and CESAR L. CHAVEZ on why they're supporting HILLARY

[bidenista]

New ad from Hillary's campaign posted on Youtube today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1BHXNufzU

[MADem]

1. It aired in the NE market this evening.. Good ad. NT

[Lucinda]

4. I'm glad its getting good air time!

I'm tv-less so I had no idea how much it was in circulation anywhere...

[thunder rising]

2. Dignity or Denial ... what's the answer? Seems nobody in that crew admits a mistake.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. Does anything "NICE" ever come out of your keyboard?

Why are you always so mean and nasty?

[emilyg]

7. Maybe he is mean and nasty.

[rodeodance]

32. a OBAMACRYBABY

[kikiek]

3. Love it.Thanks for posting.

[neutron]

24. don't they know it isn't chic

to vote for a workhorse candidate?

[rodeodance]

42. she is a "workhorse"

[bidenista]

6. kick

:kick:

I think this is a great ad.

[russian33]

8. very nice

kick

[K8-EEE]

9. To me RK-J's endorsement means more than Caroline's

She's very nice, but he's the one always sticking his neck out for causes I believe in over the years.

[thunder rising]

12. The nicest thing I can say to this posting is that it reaks of cluelessness and callusness

For Caroline to break her silence after all these years and put herself in a position that has meant sudden death to her loved ones, is an historic event. I mean historic.

Good for her. I am so glad to see that she is able now to take a stand.

[TriMetFan]

13. Again like I have said in other posts......

Were was she when we Democrats need her in 2004. Just imagine if she would have come out and said something nice about Kerry and Edwards. We might have had a better chance against the Bushbot machine.

[K8-EEE]

16. Yeah that would have been a good time to "break her silence"

That could have possibly saved a lot of the horrors of the last four years.

I'm not so much on silence. I think everyone should be very vocal in the GWB years.

[TriMetFan]

19. Amen to that!!!

Why now when it really doesn't matter. Obama or Hillary will be the next President. We sure needed her back then. Just think if Kerry had gotten her to back them. How many Iraq children would have been saved or American soldiers.

[1corona4u]

22. Why now??

Because they can mold Obama into what they want. Can't do that with Hillary....

[TriMetFan]

23. Not only that, but the "Dynasty Family"

doesn't have much to loose. Or should I say, they didn't seam to care in 2004.

[neutron]

25. All the sweet dreamy spin is making my tummy woozy

[TriMetFan]

28. Your post shows that you really don't

understand that peoples lives could have been saved if this wonderful women would have done, what she did for Obama the other day for Kerry back in 2004. But I guess we will never know!

[stillcool]

21. you know this stuff is so easy...

to find...

Saturday, October 23, 2004
Caroline Kennedy comes to Wisconsin.
The Capital Times reports on Caroline Kennedy's visit to Milwaukee (where she appeared with Kerry):

"My mother always told me, if it weren't for Wisconsin, President Kennedy would never have made it to the White House. And now you're going to do the exact same thing for John Kerry," said Kennedy, daughter of the late president.

Caroline Kennedy 'Takes Five'
Kennedy steps back into the limelight
Posted: Oct. 23, 2004

Caroline Kennedy is - well, she's Caroline Kennedy, what more do you need to know? Daughter of President John F. Kennedy and Jacqueline Kennedy. Grew up in the limelight like almost no one else. Avoids the limelight pretty much these days, but there are exceptions. Now 46, she's married, has three kids, has a law degree, has written two books about legal rights and does a lot of work on behalf of the New York Public Schools system in a $1-a-year job. When she was 15, she volunteered to work in the first campaign John Kerry launched for public office. Now, she is volunteering on the campaign trail for Kerry as Democratic presidential candidate. She was in Milwaukee last week to introduce Kerry at a speech at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee and spoke afterward with the Journal Sentinel's Alan J. Borsuk.

Q. How much campaigning are you doing this time around?

A. As much as I can in these last few weeks. Not full time because I have a lot of commitments at home with my kids, a couple games I need to go to.

Q. Your involvement with the New York Public Schools, what kind of work are you doing?

A. We're trying to build private sector support for education reform in New York, and it's gone very well. There's just been a tremendous outpouring in the city of people who really have come together around the schools. I think 9-11 started that. I have been really amazed. People just really know this is an absolute crisis now. I think President Bush raised the visibility of the issue, but now it's apparent that he hasn't really followed through.

Q. The federal education law, No Child Left Behind - your own feelings on it?

A. I think standards and accountability and believing in our kids and having the government stand behind that are good. But it's causing a tremendous burden, especially on schools like New York City. They can't meet the demands of the thing and there's no funding to go with it. So it's actually having the reverse effect than it was intended to.

Q. In general, what's your reading of how New York City schools are doing? Are things getting better academically?

A. There are some good, very reassuring developments. Math scores went up, I think reading scores are going up. But it's a giant system. I don't think people realize we have more than a million kids, it's a $12 billion budget, 90,000 teachers, so you can't really generalize so easily. But I think it's going great.

Q. The gap between black kids and white kids in general, is there a key of how to close that, a recipe for how to close that?

A. New York City schools are predominantly African-American, Spanish, there's 140 languages spoken at home. I think we know what to do in education. We need smaller classes and really good teachers and after-school and early childhood (programs). We just need to get really serious about actually doing it.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=269206&format=print

[stillcool]

18. It really is very easy....

to look before you leap...

Last Update: Thursday, October 28, 2004. 10:13am (AEST)
Caroline Kennedy tells Bush to stop invoking JFK

Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, daughter of the late US Democratic president John Kennedy, has urged Republican President George W Bush not to invoke her father's name in his campaign against Democratic rival John Kerry.

"It's hard for me to listen to President Bush invoking my father's memory to attack John Kerry," Ms Kennedy Schlossberg said.

"Senator Kerry has demonstrated his courage and commitment to a stronger America throughout his entire career.

"President Kennedy inspired and united the country and so will John Kerry.

"President Bush is doing just the opposite. All of us who revere the strength and resolve of President Kennedy will be supporting John Kerry on election day."

In Wisconsin on Tuesday, Mr Bush attacked Senator Kerry, saying: "His record not only stands in opposition to me but in opposition to the great tradition of the Democrat Party of America.

"The party of Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and John Kennedy is rightly remembered for confidence and resolve in times of crisis.

"Senator Kerry has turned his back on 'pay any price' and 'bear any burden' and he has replaced those commitments with 'wait and see' and 'cut and run'," Mr Bush said.

-- AFP

Monday, October 04, 2004
Caroline Kennedy urges voters to vote for Kerry
JFK's daughter slams Bush education record
October 4, 2004

DES MOINES, Iowa -- The daughter of the late President John F. Kennedy said Monday that President Bush has failed to provide the necessary funding he promised the nation's schools when he signed the No Child Left Behind Act.Caroline Kennedy, a lawyer and author who has raised money for New York City public schools, said her biggest disappointment has been Bush's inability to reach the spending levels he set in 2002. She urged voters to back Democratic Sen. John Kerry.

"I know that John Kerry will do whatever he can to keep the promises to the teachers and the students here in Iowa," said Kennedy, who cited Kerry's plan to establish a National Education Trust Fund, which would reward schools and states that meet education goals.

Kennedy was joined by Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, who complained that the Bush administration has provided $300 million less to Iowa schools than promised. He said that money is needed to hire more teachers and buy textbooks.

"The president is visiting our state today and we welcome him to Iowa," Vilsack said. "The only regret that I have is the president is not bringing the rest of the resources for No Child Left Behind that have been left behind in Washington."

Bush campaign spokesman Dan Ronayne called the Democratic governor's complaints baseless.
"President Bush has provided the highest education funding percentage increase in 30 years," he said. "He increased education funding more in four years than Bill Clinton did in eight years."
Kennedy spoke at Wallace Elementary School, recently described as a "school in need of assistance" under the law. Principal Maggie McGill said the designation was based on a flawed testing requirement.

Kennedy and Vilsack also visited a Head Start classroom, where Kennedy read "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" aloud to a dozen children.

[TriMetFan]

27. You don't get it do you.

It is one thing so have a statement put out, it is another to have a big show like she and her uncle put for Obama. There is the problem I have.

[stillcool]

29. You don't get it...

you really need to read something before you talk trash. Caroline Kennedy went out and "Campaigned" for John Kerry. What she hasn't done since 1980 is "endorse" a Democratic nominee. The depth and breath of 'willful' ignorance stuns me. How hard is it to find out facts Before you attempt to disparage someone's character?

[TriMetFan]

31. I forgot that her and Chelsey Clinton

were with Kerry's kid in Tampa, speaking for Kerry. But You see the way she made this make "show" for Obama is what she should have done for Kerry. Just like the "big show" she and uncle Ted are going to do for Obama in Californian. She never did that for Kerry. I still think Caroline and Ted are just out there for Obama because they are pissed at Hillary for not given JFK his right place in the Civil Rights Movement comment that Hillary did. You know that whole LBJ/MKL thing. But then again these are your words:"What she hasn't done since 1980 is "endorse" a Democratic nominee." BINGO!!!!!!!! Slam dunk! Again now if she would have done this back in 2004.

[stillcool]

37. You know what?

You need to check your facts. I provided you with a little information regarding Caroline Kennedy's appearances on the campaign trail with John Kerry. There is a lot more from other campaigns, having to do with other candidates..throughout her life. I didn't realize I had to write you a book. I suppose it doesn't matter because you obviously feel the need to criticize her contributions to Democratic candidates. I'm sure you've done much more.

[TriMetFan]

38. You know what's funny......

sometimes people like you don't realize that some of us here in DU come from families that have political back grounds. As you can see I was more then willing to say I was wrong. I never said Caroline was not a Great women. But the funny thing is that you Obama supporters have become just like the Bush-bots. The more I stay reading DU the more I'm coming to realize DU is not the same place it was even just 2 yrs. ago. And since when was it against the law to criticize some ones intentions??? I thought I stilled lived in The United States????????
What I think you don't like is this: "But then again these are your words:"What she hasn't done since 1980 is "endorse" a Democratic nominee." BINGO!!!!!!!! Slam dunk! Again now if she would have done this back in 2004"
Oh by the way my family march with MLK and knew the man also my Grandfather worked for JFK. Do I need to start dropping names for you??

[stillcool]

40. You know what's funny?

this discussion is about Caroline Kennedy. No where is Obama's name mentioned. I'm sorry that you can only view Caroline Kennedy as her name pertains to Obama. In 2000, as in 2004 she again did not choose to "endorse" a candidate..but once again "she campaigned, made appearances, gave speeches for the "nominee". But..you seem to refuse to acknowledge that, or have trouble making the distinction. And, oh by the way...maybe you should ask your family what Caroline Kennedy has done throughout her lifetime to achieve democratic goals.

We sure needed her back then. Just think if Kerry had gotten her to back them. How many Iraq children would have been saved or American soldiers.

Not only that, but the "Dynasty Family"
doesn't have much to loose. Or should I say, they didn't seam to care in 2004.gain like I have said in other posts......

Were was she when we Democrats need her in 2004. Just imagine if she would have come out and said something nice about Kerry and Edwards. We might have had a better chance against the Bushbot machine

[TriMetFan]

41. Again these are your words:

"What she hasn't done since 1980 is "endorse" a Democratic nominee."

And what I trying to say she didn't have one of these Big Let me Show You Who I'm Behind Shows, like she did for Obama. That is the difference and I think that is what you can't and don't want to understand. I don't have anything against her, but this. She is a wonderful women that has done many good things. So again think about how many Iraq children would have been saved or American soldiers would have been saved if she would have done that.

[stillcool]

46. She campaigned for Kerry/Edwards

She did not endorse, Kerry, or Edwards, or Dean, or Gephardt. When Kerry won the nomination she campaigned for he and John Edwards. I'm sorry that wasn't enough for you. Perhaps you should blame the Iraq War on those who voted for it. I'm sure you are aware, her uncle did not. Think about that.

[K8-EEE]

15. I said,. it means more "to ME." To me.

Your post reeks of arrogance. I'm allowed my opinion.

[rodeodance]

33. its another one those OBAMAbabies have a temper tanturm

[libbygurl]

35. Yep, same here. nt

[Politicub]

10. Very nice ad. Thanks for posting it. n/t

[Little Star]

11. Great Ad! Thanks.

[BlackVelvet04]

14. great ad. n/t

[IndianaGreen]

17. Bobby Kennedy opposed the war in Vietnam. He would have never voted for IWR

and then lied about it like Hillary does.

[neutron]

26. The Clintons gave the most peaceful era

in American history.

[libbygurl]

36. See this thread, though, for RFK and the Vietnam War:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4348575

[AX10]

20. Thank you!

:kick:

[agdlp]

30. Very Nice !

Thanx for posting it

[rodeodance]

34. ~ALL FIRED-UP FOR THE LADY~--YES SHE CAN, YES WE CAN~~

[blm]

39. I believe in OPEN GOVERNMENT: That is why I am NOT supporting ANY Clinton.

They side with secrecy and privilege - they always have and always will.

[rodeodance]

43. ah-the broken record chimes in once again.

[blm]

44. Better than the unbroken record of protecting secrecy, privilege, and closed government.

that the Clintons have accrued.

Something that other Democrats apparently don't mind, while CITIZEN Democrats DO.

[rodeodance]

45. Lots of big issues out there. I am not a one-minded issue driven person.

[Cameron27]

47. What a beautiful ad!

K&R