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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:20 PM
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You know what? Screw all this nastiness. What I saw at the Dem debate last night was UNITY.
Clearly Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are capable of putting aside their differences and being cordial to each other, highlighting their similarities as well as their differences. Last night showed me what it could be if Clinton and Obama joined forces to take our country back. It was a reminder that despite our differences, our common foe is the Republican party, and we must be ready to stand together to face them. A victory won't just be handed to us, we will have to fight hard for it, because you can be assured that they will try to cheat. Watching that debate, I felt the power of a unified front against these dirty cheaters, and it moved me.
After seeing all that positive energy, coming back here and seeing more of the same nasty garbage that supporters of Clinton and Obama regularly fling at each other was kind of depressing.
My respect for Hillary grew ENORMOUSLY last night, as did my respect for Obama. However, the nonstop sliming from both camps on DU really turns me off, and it might do the same to other uncommitted supporters of Edwards or Kucinich.
Just a general plea: if you're going to post something, think about if it'll actually be a credit to the candidate you support.
CHANCES ARE: If you're going to post a thread calling Hillary or Obama supporters 'stupid, immature, childish, deluded, brainwashed, cult members' etc...YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR CANDIDATE ANY FAVORS.
We can promote our own favorite candidate without resorting to broad brush attacks on every person who supports the candidate you oppose.
CHANCES ARE: If you're going to post a thread distorting an event or quote, or outright lying, just to make the other candidate look bad, you're not doing your candidate any favors. It makes you look classless and dishonest, besides.
CHANCES ARE: If you resort to insults directed at the candidates such as making fun of his/her former habits, appearance, or flaws, rather than substantive arguments about the candidate themselves, you're not doing your candidate any favors.
At some point, the nomination is going to be decided, and then we'll have to focus our energies on the real mission: beating the Republicans. All of this nastiness doesn't serve us well, and makes deep and painful rifts which may be difficult to heal once the convention is over.
I think Hillary and Obama are both great and can take on these Recumbaglicans, and that's what this is all about anyway: beating Mittens or McCain.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:22 PM
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1. It was the best debate this election
And I was very, very impressed by both Obama and Hillary. I'm much more relaxed and hopeful after seeing them last night.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:30 PM
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8. Me too. I was surprised to find myself warming up to Clinton..
but have faith for the future of our country now.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:24 PM
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2. Kick
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:24 PM
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3. Bravo
K&R
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:31 PM
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9. I know some of the usual suspects won't put a halt on the 24/7 slime output...
but I hope the rest of us can rise above that.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:24 PM
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4. You saw the next president. nt
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:37 PM
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12. Without a doubt...
It's not over yet, I worry about the dishonesty of the republicans..but we're in for a hell of a ride!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:25 PM
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5. what you saw was total theater..that was not a debate and they shoved Edwards out to bring you that
hollywood theater,

what you saw was the end of representative government.

fly
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:32 PM
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10. The end of representative government is a win by McCain or Romney.
Our goal must be to defeat them.
I'm sad Edwards dropped out, too, but I feel that it's time to move on and prepare for the struggles ahead.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:27 PM
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6. Well said Elrond!!!
The Democratic canditates came off looking Presidential versus the Republicans about who could kill more people.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:29 PM
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7. Romney and McCain...both feeble and worthless.
I'd love to see Hillary chew McCain up and spit him out, or Obama deliver the smackdown to Mittens.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:33 PM
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11. Chances are ....
I'm going to have to co sign that post.


Now back to the velvety voice of Johnny Mathis.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:30 PM
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13. kick
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:34 PM
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14. I was with you when I first read it - even rec-ed it. Then I read Obama's arrogant
assertion that he's entitled to my vote while his people won't vote Hillary. Fuck it!
I'm done with being taken for granted. No more unity from me. And fuck Moveon and the horse they rode on. Were 3 days worth alienating old members like me?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:10 AM
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15. Link to Obama's assertion?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:13 AM
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16. Very nicely put. In the end, we are all Democrats and can not allow another Republican admin.
Can you imagine another 4-8 years with a McCain or a Romney? :nuke:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:13 AM
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17. "Recumbaglicans"??? What is that? Are they related to Rumplestilkillians er'somethin?
:dunce:
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:14 AM
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18. I hope to God
it's a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket!!
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