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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:42 AM
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I assumed "Tony" Rezko was an Italian name?
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 01:16 AM by mzmolly
It's Syrian. So, apparently Rezko is from the good ol' "Axis of Evil"?

Under the circumstances, my fear is that Rezko will be hit with a "terrorist" charge before the general election? Did Rezko funnel monies to "terrorist" organizations? And/or will he be accused/charged with doing so for purely political reasons?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rezko

Rezko has raised funds for many politicians, both Democrats and Republicans. These include Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich,<5> Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn, Attorney General Lisa Madigan, U.S. Senator and Presidential Candidate Barack Obama, former President Bill Clinton, Comptroller Dan Hynes, former Cook County Board President John Stroger, and Cook County Board President Todd Stroger. Rezko has also raised money for former Illinois Governor Jim Edgar and co-chaired a megamillion-dollar fund-raiser for President George W. Bush in 2003.<6>

The indictment of Rezko on federal charges has drawn attention to his relationship with Illinois Senator Barack Obama, though Obama is accused of no wrongdoing.<7><8>


Obama must come out strong and point out that Rezko donated money to Bush/Cheney as well as other Republicans. He has to shed this supposed association with Rezko before the GE.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:43 AM
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1. Of course it's shed. The guy's in jail.
Buying influence is a lot tougher that way.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:49 AM
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Sorry, you don't get my point. If you "google" Rezko, it's apparent that he is "considered"
an Obama associate. WE may understand that this is simply because Obama was involved in politics in a state where Rezko had money and influence. But, the Obama campaign has to do a better job of promoting that Rezko is a bi-partisan "problem".

I can smell the RW manufactured scandal a mile away. This has to be dealt with in a forceful manner by Democrats, namely Obama - NOW.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:54 AM
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4. But Rezko was a friend, according to Obama, for 10 years....
some say it was longer, but Obama said 10 years....oh, and then he said, he only worked for him for about 5 hours, or something...so not sure what the truth is...but the trial starts Feb. 25.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:07 AM
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13. Well, he was from Chicago, and "be-friended" many politicians.
However, this is why he has to deal with it, now IMHO. I'm glad the trial starts soon. I hope it's quick. I wish the guy would just take a plea deal and get it over with! :P
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:07 AM
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14. I know it requires some reading....
but this might help...

Hillary Clinton on Monday, January 21st, 2008 in a debate in Myrtle Beach, S.C.
A fragment of truth, distorted
Barely True
In one of the most heated exchanges of the Democratic debates, Hillary Clinton on Monday night fired off this pointed attack on Barack Obama:

“I was fighting against those (Republican) ideas when you were practicing law and representing your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago.”

Asked later to respond, Obama said, “Here’s what happened: I was an associate at a law firm that represented a church group that had partnered with this individual to do a project and I did about five hours worth of work on this joint project.”

The man in question here is Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a Chicago real estate developer and fast food magnate now under federal indictment. He’s also a longtime friend of Obama who over the years did a good amount of fundraising for him.

In April 2007, the Chicago Sun-Times reported that Obama did some legal work between 1995 and 1998 on a series of troubled low-income housing deals involving Rezmar Corp., owned by Rezko.


Reporter Tim Novak reported that Obama was an associate attorney with the small Chicago law firm, Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland, that helped Rezmar and not-for-profit community groups secure more than $43-million in government funding to rehab 15 apartment buildings for the poor. Four ended up in foreclosure.

In all, Novak reported, Rezmar rehabbed 30 buildings, a third of which were in the Illinois Senate district Obama represented between 1997 and 2004. Many of the buildings fell into squalid disrepair and financial straits while Obama was state senator, prompting the city to repeatedly sue over problems, including no heat.

Obama’s campaign staff told the Sun-Times that Obama worked on some of the deals, but that his Rezmar-related work amounted to just five hours.

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Bottom line, Clinton’s claim is Barely True. Obama, by his own admission, did some, albeit very little, legal work that helped Rezko’s company obtain properties that would later be neglected. But the allegations that Rezko was a slumlord did not arise, at least not publicly, until years after Obama performed that work.
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/306/

On the April 24 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume, chief Washington correspondent Jim Angle claimed that an April 23 Chicago Sun-Times article "alleged Obama did legal work for Rezko that enabled him to get $43 million in government funding to rehab 15 buildings." In fact, the Sun-Times reported that while Obama worked at the law firm that helped Rezko's company, Rezmar, secure the government funding, his role in the Rezmar deals is "unclear," and that Obama's campaign said Obama worked only five hours on Rezmar-related deals. "Senator Obama did not directly represent Mr. Rezko or his firms," according to an email from Obama's staff that the Sun-Times quoted. "He did represent on a very limited basis ventures in which Mr. Rezko's entities participated along with others."

Angle also reported: "Rezko's the same man whose wife bought the lot next door to Obama's house on the same day the senator bought his home, then later sold half that lot to Obama for 1/3 its original value." A December 17, 2006, Washington Post article, however, cited an Obama spokesman in reporting that Obama purchased one-sixth of Rezko's lot and paid Rezko more than double its appraised value because "Obama considered it fair to pay one-sixth of the original price for one-sixth of the lot."

As Media Matters for America has documented, several media outlets have cast the Obama-Rezko land deal as a "scandal," despite the complete absence of evidence of impropriety or allegation of wrongdoing.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200704250011



* Land deal

On November 1, 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that Obama and Antoin "Tony" Rezko -- who had "pleaded not guilty to federal charges involving pay-to-play allegations that surround Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's administration" -- bought adjoining properties on the same day in 2005 and that as Obama and Rezko "jointly worked to improve their side-by-side properties, the two men entered an ongoing series of personal financial arrangements." The Tribune article alleged no wrongdoing and quoted Obama saying: "I haven't been involved with in any legislative work whatsoever or any government activities of any sort." The article noted: "In normal circumstances, the two real estate transactions probably wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. There is, after all, nothing illegal or untoward about an aggressive developer buying hot property next door to a rising political star." Indeed, the only apparent cause for the article's existence was that "these are not normal times for either Obama or Rezko."

Even though the article alleged no wrongdoing on Obama's part, the Tribune editorialized two days later, writing that "the senator's real estate tie to Rezko threatens to leave Obama hoisted by his ethics petard."

More than a month later, Slate.com teased a December 14 article, headlined "Barackwater" and written by Slate chief political correspondent John Dickerson, by suggesting that the article exposed a "Shady Real Estate Deal" involving Obama. The article, whose headline was a reference to the Clinton-era Whitewater real-estate "scandal," which gave rise to an extensive, multimillion-dollar investigation that turned up no evidence of illegality by the Clintons, in fact explained that there is "no evidence" Obama did anything wrong.

But even with the constant refrain that Obama had not "been accused of wrongdoing," as the AP reported, the discussion of the land deal came up again following Obama's announcement that he was forming an exploratory committee. For instance, on the January 20 edition of Fox News Watch, Newsday columnist Jim Pinkerton asserted that one of "the questions about a fellow ... named Barack Hussein Obama" is "about this land deal he had." Similarly, during a report on the January 16 edition of ABC's Nightline, ABC News senior national correspondent Jake Tapper asked, "Just who the hell is Barack Obama?" and noted that voters "may not like what they hear about a questionable land deal was involved in with a political operative since indicted for fraud."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703200011#landdeal



http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article

Q: Senator, when did you first meet Tony Rezko? How did you become friends? How often would you meet with him, and when did you last speak with him?

A: I had attracted some media attention when I was elected the first black President of the Harvard Law Review. And while I was in law school, David Brint, who was a development partner with Tony Rezko contacted me and asked whether I would be interested in being a developer. Ultimately, after discussions in which I met Mr. Rezko, I said no.

I have probably had lunch with Rezko once or twice a year and our spouses may have gotten together on two to four occasions in the time that I have known him. I last spoke with Tony Rezko more than six months ago.

Q:. Have you or your wife participated in any other transactions of any kind with Rezko or companies he owns? Have you or your wife ever done any legal work ever for Rezko or his companies?

A: No.

Q: Has Rezko ever given you or your family members gifts of any kind and, if so, what were they?

A: No.

Q: The seller of your house appears to be a doctor at the University of Chicago . Do you or your wife know him? If so, did either of you ever talk to him about subdividing the property? If you ever did discuss the property with him, when were those conversations?

A: We did not know him personally, though my wife worked in the same University hospital. The property was subdivided and two lots were separately listed when we first learned of it. We did not discuss the property with the owners; the sale was negotiated for us by our agent.

Q: Did you approach Rezko or his wife about the property, or did they approach you?

A: To the best of my recollection, I told him about the property, and he developed an interest, knowing both the location and, as I recall, the developer who had previously purchased it.

Q: Who was your Realtor? Did this Realtor also represent Rita Rezko?

A: Miriam Zeltzerman, who had also represented me in the purchase of my prior property, a condominium, in Hyde Park. She did not represent Rita Rezko.

Q: How do you explain the fact your family purchased your home the same day as Rita Rezko bought the property adjacent to yours? Was this a coordinated purchase?

A: The sellers required the closing of both properties at the same time. As they were moving out of town, they wished to conclude the sale of both properties simultaneously. The lot was purchased first; with the purchase of the house on the adjacent lot, the closings could proceed and did, on the same day, pursuant to the condition set by the sellers.

Q: Why is it that you were able to buy your parcel for $300,000 less than the asking price, and Rita Rezko paid full price? Who negotiated this end of the deal? Did whoever negotiated it have any contact with Rita and Tony Rezko or their Realtor or lawyer?

A: Our agent negotiated only with the seller's agent. As we understood it, the house had been listed for some time, for months, and our offer was one of two and, as we understood it, it was the best offer. The original listed price was too high for the market at the time, and we understood that the sellers, who were anxious to move, were prepared to sell the house for what they paid for it, which is what they did.

We were not involved in the Rezko negotiation of the price for the adjacent lot. It was our understanding that the owners had received, from another buyer, an offer for $625,000 and that therefore the Rezkos could not have offered or purchased that lot for less.

Q: Why did you put the property in a trust?

A: I was advised that a trust holding would afford me some privacy, which was important to me as I would be commuting from Washington to Chicago and my family would spend some part of most weeks without me.

Q: A Nov. 21, 1999, Chicago Tribune story indicates the house you bought "sits on a quarter-acre lot and will share a driveway and entrance gate with a home next door that has not yet been built." Is this shared driveway still in the mix? Will this require further negotiations with the Rezkos?

A: The driveway is not shared with the adjacent owner. But the resident in the carriage house in the back does have an easement over it.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:34 AM
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16. So, another lie...
From the article above;

I have probably had lunch with Rezko once or twice a year and our spouses may have gotten together on two to four occasions in the time that I have known him. I last spoke with Tony Rezko more than six months ago.

Q:. Have you or your wife participated in any other transactions of any kind with Rezko or companies he owns? Have you or your wife ever done any legal work ever for Rezko or his companies?

A: No.


Q: Has Rezko ever given you or your family members gifts of any kind and, if so, what were they?

A: No.

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From the MTP interview;

MR. RUSSERT: Tony Rezko, who is he?

SEN. OBAMA: He is a developer in Illinois. He was a friend of mine for, for over 10 years. He was, he was a supporter of Democrats and Republicans back in Illinois. He was indicted recently for issues completely unrelated to me, but obviously it’s a source of concern because he’s not only a friend but also a supporter of my campaign.

MR. RUSSERT: It appears that he raised or contributed about $168,000 for you over the course of your career...

SEN. OBAMA: Over the course of my political career. Correct.

MR. RUSSERT: ...and that he was always there to be very helpful to you at certain times. And when you bought property adjacent to each other, you bought land from him to expand your backyard.

SEN. OBAMA: Correct.

MR. RUSSERT: This was all after he had been—it had been reported he was under federal investigation.

SEN. OBAMA: Yeah.

MR. RUSSERT: Why were you associating with such a person?

SEN. OBAMA: The, the purchase of the land was after he—it was reported that he was under federal investigation. The support that he gave to my campaign prior to that, at that point any problems that came up had not surfaced. I’ve already acknowledged this was a mistake. Not only should I not have been involved in any business transaction with him, in particular, but with contributors generally. But keep in mind, Tim, that there was no evidence of wrongdoing. This was a above-the-board market-based transaction. Everybody who’s looked at has acknowledged as such. But there’s no doubt that it was a mistake on my part.

MR. RUSSERT: Is he still your friend?

SEN. OBAMA: You know, I have not talked to him since he got into trouble with the law.

MR. RUSSERT: Period.

SEN. OBAMA: Never had a conversation with him.


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And, from the Debate; Obama said in a debate that as an attorney he did just about five hours of work for a Rezko project. Obama has not been accused of any legal wrongdoing. Which, he denied in the interview above.



Obama, the master parser...."as an attorney"...what did he do, NOT as 'an attorney'? Didn't he also say last week, that he had no idea Rezk0 was corrupt? Someone will have that statement, I'm sure......

And with Tim, he admitted to buying the land AFTER Rezko was under investigation.


I think Obama needs to get his story straight.....
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:31 AM
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22. What's the lie?
Do you think of any time you spend with another person as "work". What's up with reading comprehension these days?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:27 AM
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26. I bolded the lie.
read and comprehend.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:41 AM
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27. I've read quite a bit...
hence my supplying articles which state what "WorK" Obama did for Rezko. Spin it anyway you like, it doesn't change the "Work". Would you like me to produce some more information that negates your assumptions and perceptions?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:44 AM
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28. Look, I took DIRECT QUOTES FROM OBAMA'S OWN MOUTH
and bolded the lie. I'm not the one with the problem.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:20 AM
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31. "Worked"
.. for a "law firm" that "represented a church group" that "partnered with" Rezko.
"Friend"

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:30 AM
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33. Jesus Christ....are you that fucking dense??
Here is what HE said;

Q:. Have you or your wife participated in any other transactions of any kind with Rezko or companies he owns?>>>>>>> Have you or your wife ever done any ***legal work**** ever for Rezko or his companies?<<<<<<<<

>>>>A: No.<<<<<


THEN, he said;>>>>>> in a debate that as an attorney he did just about five hours of work for a Rezko project. <<<<<<<<<


Do I really have to draw you a fucking picture???
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:56 PM
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34. Jesus Christ are you that dense?
He an his wife have never participated in any transactions of any kind with Rezko or companies he owns. He and his wife never done any legal work ever for Rezko or his companies
The law firm he worked for did. It's in the same frigging article.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:23 AM
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32. But it's not a lie
Law firm partner Judson Miner said that, over several years, Obama did a total of five to seven hours of billable work on Rezmar-linked projects. He mainly filed incorporation papers for the non-profit groups under the supervision of more senior attorneys, Miner said.

At the Tribune’s request, Cook County Circuit Court Chief Judge Timothy Evans produced a list of all 260 civil and criminal cases in which the firm filed appearances, and the Tribune separately examined 1990s lawsuits that Rezmar Corp. listed in applications for government grants. The paper also examined files from the Illinois Housing Development Authority and the city housing department, as well as the hundreds of clients Obama listed in the unusually frank ethics disclosure reports he filed as a state senator from December 1995 through April 2004.

Those and other records disclosed five instances in which Obama did legal work for ventures that included Rezmar Corp. The case of City of Chicago vs. Central Woodlawn Limited Partnership is one example.


In 1992, that community group partnered with Rezmar Corp. to rehab the former slum apartment building at 6107-6115 S. Ellis Ave. As work was ongoing, city officials sued the developers, alleging 16 serious code violations at the property, including a dangerously dilapidated porch.

Obama and a co-counsel filed appearances in February 1994, but the court records show they appeared on behalf of Central Woodlawn, Rezko’s non-profit partner, not Rezko or his company.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-rezko-clinton-080122,0,5430503.story?page=1&coll=chi_tab01_layout

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:38 AM
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17. 17 years.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:46 AM
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2. A Syrian can't be a normal American dysfunctional. That's reserved for Italians
Hillary camp and the race card ... they'll never learn.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:54 AM
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5. Frankly, I'm in the "Obama" camp since my candidate dropped out.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 01:17 AM by mzmolly
It's not about race. The name "Tony" Rezko sounds Italian to me?

http://www.tonysitalian.net/

http://www.fattonysitalianpub.com/

http://chicago.metromix.com/restaurants/italian/tonys-italian-deli-edison-park/133215/content

If you can find a Tony's Syrian Pub, let me know. ;)

However, when he is charged with funding terrorism, remember you heard it here. :hi: You can bet that if Obama can't shake this BS, it will be a factor in the next few months. I don't say this in an attempt to "hurt" Obama, quite the contrary. I want his campaign to get out in front of this NOW.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:06 AM
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12. Antoin
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:09 AM
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15. "Tony" is what he called himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rezko

Love that sigline pic! :hi:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:54 AM
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6. Pot, meet kettle.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:49 AM
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3. His name is Syrian so he's a terrorist?!
Christ. My dads Iranian. OH MY GOD. Am I a terrorist too????? :scared: Fuck! I already voted for Barack. He's backed by an Iranian!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Although... Im also native American. Does that balance out? Hmmmmm. I think it does. Which reminds me.... Get the fuck out of my country you terrorist!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:55 AM
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7. No. Are you guys reading my post? Or just looking to flame? I don't think he's a terrorist.
I think he'll be DEEMED A TERRORIST.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:57 AM
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8. Yes. I read it. Hence my response.
Thanks for asking.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:00 AM
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10. Read this part again
My fear is that Rezko will be hit with a "terrorist" charge before the general election? Did Rezko funnel monies to "terrorist" organizations? And/or will he be accused/charged with doing so for purely political reasons?

The guy is accused of laundering money.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:59 AM
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9. GOP-ers will have a field day with this.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:01 AM
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11. That's my fear.
:(
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:33 PM
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39. This could be un-electable Obama material once the trial starts.
Republicans will beat him with this so hard it might destroy him before he ever got started.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:41 AM
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18. Obama can run........ but he can't hide.
:yoiks: "When you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas".
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:59 AM
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20. Thanks, George. Here, have a pretzel!
Have a whole bag!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:55 AM
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19. Rove made people think McCain had an "illegitimate black baby."
Atwater made people think Willie Horton was hiding behind every tree, ready to rape and plunder. Rove is Atwater's protege. Rove is Atwater on steroids.

What do you think Rove will do with "the Syrian connection"? Especially now that MoveOn has endorsed Barack, and Rove can link him to that inflammatory "General Betray Us" ad.

As far as the right wing is concerned, an innuendo doesn't have to be true; all they have to do is plant the seed of doubt, fertilize it with lots of talking points on the MSM, and watch it grow.

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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:10 AM
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25. I don't know, why don't You Tell Us all the ways Rove can use this material?
Do his work for him why don't you. I for one could give a shit.

What about Doug Jemal in DC, another Syrian Christian and corrupt developer?

Oh, you didn't know most Syrians in the US are Christian?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:03 AM
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30. You think he hasn't already thought of this?
Please. Rove was salivating long before Rezko hit the national radar, and not just on this one issue.

Who cares if U.S. Syrians are Christian or not. Were you around when U.S. Iranians were being persecuted during the hostage crisis? How about those patriotic interred Japanese? It doesn't take much to set off the Repub base.

How many Repubs do you hear screaming about Christians being martyred in Iraq, now that secular Saddam is gone? Zip. Zilch. Nada. Where were the WMDs supposedly secreted? Syria. Who's part of the so-called Axis of Evil? Syria.

Barack is the gift that keeps on giving to the Repubs.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:33 PM
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40. My fears exactly. I am currently supporting Obama, but I can't say that I'm not concerned
about this for OBVIOUS reasons. Remember, the swift liars got WEEKS of FREE airtime.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:03 AM
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21. People left and right see through the rezko thing it doesn't even add up as a claim.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:31 PM
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38. I hope you're right.
I fear the media will use this in the same manner they gave the "swift boat" liars free air time. This is why I would really like it if this was put to rest, now.

:shrug:
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:53 AM
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23. Imagine the e-mails.
It's going to be "Muslim Apostate Barack Hussein Obama got his dream home half paid-for by a Syrian criminal." I think you clearly have a good point.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:09 AM
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24. You can't have a rational discussion about this with Obama supporters.
But I believe the media is deliberately holding back on blasting this story, hoping he'll get the nomination. At that point the right wing attack machine will be launched full force.

That's one of the reasons I'm backing Hillary. If Obama gets our nom, he will be toast, or more likely a pile of crumbs, once the MSM and pukes get through with him.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:57 AM
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29. I didn't
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 10:57 AM by MonkeyFunk
There's no letter K in Italian, and the "z" and "k" sounds don't go together.

"Resco" would be the closest thing that could possibly be Italian.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:29 PM
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37. Very interesting, learn something new every day.
:hi:
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:00 PM
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35. If I recall there is no "k" in the Italian alphabet. So Barach is skrewed.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:06 PM
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36. Funny, I thought he was Jewish at first
Maybe it was the "slumlord" slur... And I think that's what Hillary was hoping older, less-educated black voters would think too.

I don't think you can stick "terra" on him, though: he's a Syrian Christian.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:36 PM
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41. I hope you're right on this ...
I don't think you can stick "terra" on him, though..."
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:37 PM
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42. This story keeps getting more and more interesting.
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