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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:01 AM
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Th Nation and MoveOn endorse Obama, Clinton supporters will you...
Cancel your subscriptions and remove your self from the e-mail lists?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:02 AM
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1. I think you're a little late
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:02 AM
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2. No.
Why?

--p!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:09 AM
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3. I was never a memeber.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:17 AM
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4. things that make you go - hmmm...
I'm a contributing MoveOn member - to the tune of a few hundred dollars worth...

hmmm...
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:18 AM
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5. I cancelled move on. Never read the nation
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:37 AM
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9. Same here.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:03 AM
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6. not a Clinton supporter, but I cancelled moveon today
I don't want to be part of an organization that doesn't allow an "undecided" or "other" category in a poll, forcing an unwanted choice.

I'm out.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:10 AM
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7. Will? Its already done. nt
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:36 AM
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8. Move On's poll should have been done before the Iowa primary. How can
Move On jump into the campaign in the middle? Don't the Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina and Florida voters deserve Move On's recommendation? It also seems a little questionable that a 3.2 million member organization takes action on the vote of only 10% of its members, especially when so much is at stake.

I will use my money locally.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:48 AM
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10. Yes.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:27 AM
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11. I realy lk the kind&gracious behaviour 2 the longest standin liberal paper. May I shake your hands.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 05:32 AM by cooolandrew
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:32 AM
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12. What no-one going to shake my hand. :o
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:35 AM
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13. Hey--everybody makes mistakes.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:06 AM
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14. I canceled Moveon membership yesterday.
I have a few more months on Nation subscription and I will not renew. I don't trust either of them any longer to be neutral. Progressives need organizations that are fighting for ALL Democrats against Republicans, not pitting one Dem against the other. Their reputation has been tarnished for me now.
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Red Knight Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:12 AM
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15. Neither Clinton or Obama
are true progressives so it's kind of a moot point.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:15 AM
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16. Progressive groups give both Obama and Clinton high ratings.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 07:16 AM by Perry Logan
The following are polls from progressive groups, rating Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, on how often they vote for progressive issues. For each group, http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011142.php

Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
Overall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%
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Red Knight Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:35 AM
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17.  I wish I had what they were drinking
Looks like good stuff.

Apparently they are compared against "other Democrats" in congress and not so much against real progressive issues like---oh say---trade deals and true single payer health insurance.

The party has drifted so far to the right that some of these groups don't even know what "progressive" is. I'll say this: it wasn't giving Bush authority to go to war.

Hey---I'll take them over any Republican. That's how I plan to vote in the general election. But let's not call something it isn't. At least be honest aboutr the language.

Nader is progressive. He gets boiled alive here, for what it's worth.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:52 AM
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18. I think we're about on the same page on this. I take some encouragement from those ratings, though.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:58 AM
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19. Will Obama supporters stop attacking Krugman
or anyone else who doesn't buy into what he's selling?

Just curious....
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