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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:04 AM
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Obama supporters with campaign connections: Tell your candidate to retract the statment.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 01:04 AM by Proud2BAmurkin
Once again Obama has undercut his own chances of winning an election, but this time he threatens to take us all down with him.

In SC he played the race card for the immediate victory. Since then there has been a huge racial divide among Democratic voters that has hurt him and will be responsible for his loss of the nomination if that happens.

Today he threatened Democrats with a GE loss by threatening if he doesn't win, his voters will not vote for Clinton. He said Clinton's voters, however, would vote for him.

He likely lost a SHITLOAD of Clinton general election voters when he said it, so if he did get the nomination he would be in for a shock. But he doesn't care. He was happy to stake the Democrats fortune on his own primary fate.

Tell your candidate to issue a statement RETRACTING the idiotic remark.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:05 AM
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1. Hillary lost a lot of Obama voters
the day she voted for the war.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:07 AM
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3. that's fair
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:10 AM
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7. If BO had been in the Senate at that time he would have either
voted present or for the war. He has waffled on what he would have done, his supporters like to forget that.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:11 AM
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11. well, no
but that's a nice attempt at spin though. 2 points for you.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:14 AM
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17. I am just now realizing your pic and realizing who that is.
You really have a crush on Obama don't you? LOL.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:12 AM
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12. He would have voted for it and it would have been cool
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:06 AM
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2. I'll get on it right away.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 01:08 AM by ocelot
:rofl:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:07 AM
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4. Nope... he made a observation...
backed up by polling data.

In other words...

A Factual Statement


I know how hard it is for Proud2BAmurkin to recognize a factual statement when he sees one, so we can forgive him his weak attempts at creating an issue.


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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:12 AM
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14. So did Clinton when he observed Jesse Jackson won SC
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:14 AM
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19. Yep... and I hope he keeps making those observations....

...and by the way... when did Bill Clinton become the candidate?


in any case... Obama's observations are based in the present. As usual, Bill's are based on the past.

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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:15 AM
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21. I don't hope Obama keeps making his idiotic statements because as I said, it hurts Democrats.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:08 AM
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5. Get a Hold of yourself Murky Murk.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:09 AM
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6. I don't think he was threatening anything. He was making an observation
about the voters.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:14 AM
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18. like "The SC voters voted for Jesse Jackson too"?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:55 AM
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29. I need clarification on your direction of your argument.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:11 AM
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8. Dude that's a total exaggeration
Dude that's a total exaggeration, Obama was just saying "I'm the more electable one between me and Hillary", not "I'll make certain that all of my supporters won't be voting for Hillary Clinton if I lose the nomination". The fact of the matter is Obama has a lot of moderate republicans disgusted with the direction of their party, and independents on his side, and Hillary will have a hard time winning some of them over.

Oh and I don't want to get into a huge fight about the whole race card argument, but it was the Clinton's who started it and have caused far more headlines from what they did (or didn't do) in the race card fight. Obama's only guilty of not taking action sooner to try to stop all the infighting about it.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:14 AM
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16. accuracy matters, thanks for that. Not everyone here is a wingnut.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:18 AM
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24. I'm not too worried about the republicans
There party seems to be splintering. The christian conservatives seem to be calling for McCains head thinking he's too liberal.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:01 AM
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36. thats true, but a clinton nomination would change that fast, they will come
out to vote 'against her' with a repub vote.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:11 AM
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9. You really are on the paid-by-the-post program, aren't you?
My goodness.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:11 AM
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10. I'll call him right away, don't you worry.
Can we git ye some fries with that, too?

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:13 AM
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15. I'm sorry... that photo is insensitive....
...to Republicans.

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:12 AM
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13. Hillary disaster scenario is a fair reason to vote Obama
"Here, then, is the Clinton disaster scenario. Even in a year when Democrats are in great position to win in November, if Hillary unifies the Republicans, loses independents, and loses the progressive left, her chances of winning the general election are slim indeed."http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-pearce/hillarys-looming-electab_b_84549.html
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:20 AM
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25. Not only lose the GE, but the "coattail effect" could be disastrous
Imagine all the Republicans who would come out of the woodwork because they hate the Clintons...now think who they will pull for in the rest of the national, state, and municipal races.

We stand to lose not only the presidency, but also the Senate and possibly the House. Our statehouses, most of which are already dominated by Repubs, will be brimming with the bastards.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:15 AM
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20. woohoo, One more Dollah!
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:16 AM
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22. That sounds like spreading fear. Also, it is generally well known that the republicans are
fearing Hillary becasue she can beat McCain.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:21 AM
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26. You've got it exactly backwards....
McCain creams Hillary among independents.... Obama creams McCain among independents.


Realclearpolitics.com has a new GE poll of hypothetical matchups:

McCain 47
Clinton 45


Obama 46
McCain 44


Obama does better than Clinton head-to-head with McCain. The polling data bears this out. Indies don't like Hillary... they like Obama most, then McCain, then Hillary.

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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:23 AM
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27. It is absolutely spreading fear
Something the GOP/Rove is good at.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:17 AM
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23. Grilled Cheese is sounding good again.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:26 AM
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28. I like puppies.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:11 AM
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32. Peyton needs a bath and my hair needs a washin'.n/t
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:02 AM
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30. As A Current Obama Supporter, I Didn't Appreciate It Either
Why can't they stick to the issues and lay off of each other? I wish they would both stick to the issues and attack the current administration for their betrayal of American values and the economy.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:13 AM
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33. Hillary pretty much sticks to the issues and she is pressing the unity issue.
Her comments today were a far far cry from those of Obama. In fact, I would say that is being the devisive candidate. Teddy needs to school him better. It was a bad mistake. Oh, I forgot, he doesn't make mistakes. He is right the first time.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:22 AM
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34. Have To Disagree On That
Today maybe but previously she and Bill played the race card. I abhor using race, sex, religion or supposed unelectability of the other as a reason I should vote for you.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:05 AM
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31. I heard Obama say that. Stunning, to say the least. Fucking stupid otherwise.....nt
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:22 AM
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35. He lost me with
McClurkin and Caldwell. Also I want answers to Resco. But Obama just side steps this issue. And now this! It is going to take a lot for me to vote for him if he is the nom.. Or I might just vote Independent, Green or not vote at all this time around.
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andyrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:02 AM
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37. It was an objective and true statement.
He's pulling a lot of anti-Hilary people and independents who wouldn't go to her in the GE. Would you contest that?
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