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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:58 AM
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Democratland vs. Hillaryland
In Democratland, ensconced aristocracies and political/financial dynasties in the White House are an impediment to the dynamic, vibrant pulse of a healthy democracy. Change is a good thing, and fresh persectives refresh public service.

In Hillaryland, "change" is only a silly, feel-good term that audaciously seeks to rob the entrenched, ossified political establishment of their entitlement.

In Democratland, aggressive war is a bad thing, to be opposed at all levels from the citizenry up through the legislative body.

In Hillaryland, aggressive war is an acceptable consequence of sustaining a safe senate seat.

In Democratland, legislators are held accountable for their floor votes.

In Hillaryland, accountability for one's vote is for whimps and sourpusses; while the way an opponent MIGHT have voted is a far more pressing election year issue.

In Democratland, getting an election year endoresement from a senior, respected liberal lawmaker is a great honor and boost to the campaign.

In Hillaryland, being denied an election year endorsement from a senior, respected liberal lawmaker means that lawmaker is suddenly a big, dumb nobody.

In Democratland, leaders work to empower the working American, the indigent, and the minority who are vulnerable to the excesses of the rich and powerful.

In Hillaryland, leaders can be completely in the pockets of big business, and even vote for their wars, as long as they make enough nice speeches to the contrary.

In Democratland, MoveOn.org is a pro-Democratic, powerful web organization on the leading edge of pushing the right wing from power.

In Hillaryland, MoveOn.org became a tool of Satan the second they denied Hillary Clinton their endorsement.

In Democratland, the youth are our hope and our strength. We do our best to educate and empower them to make great changes in our world.

In Hillaryland, the youth vote is just a miserable bunch of punk computer geeks who don't even know how to wipe their own noses without help from the DLC.

In Democratland, a vote is sacrosanct - up to the conscience of the voter - and loyalty oaths are anathema to a truly free and open electoral system.

In Hillaryland, if you cannot pledge to one candidate a year before an election, then you have no business voting in the first place.

In Democratland, it is a sacred duty of the legislator to read all reports, peruse all information available before voting on something as sober and serious as a resolution to allow war.

In Hillaryland, it is OK if you don't have enough time to read such reports. After all, who cares about a bunch of brown people half a world away, anyhow?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:59 AM
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1. Obamanation strikes again!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:02 AM
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6. His Obamababymania mind is obviously overtaxed.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:02 AM
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7. Feeeeelin the love!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:04 AM
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8. There is no desire in me to feel you at all.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:05 AM
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9. That gives me an odd sense of peace, to tell you the truth
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:12 AM
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17. May I ask what your "deal" is???
Are you employed by the Clinton campaign??? After reading ALL of your posts (and few others) on the Clinton Forum, I just thought I'd ask ???? You must work sometimes to earn a living, but it seems like you're ALWAYS on DU !! She must pay well!!
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:16 AM
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22. the joys of telecommuting. I highly recommend it.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:28 AM
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26. I wasn't responding to your post.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 02:30 AM by discerning christian
My post was directed to "rodeo dance" I'm on your side!
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:29 AM
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27. Oh, my bad. I wasnt looking carefully enough at the link dealy.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:00 AM
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2. I don't even know how to respond. I think this says more about you than anything.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 02:00 AM by MetricSystem
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:01 AM
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4. Of course you don't know how to respond. Truth can be immobilizing sometimes.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:01 AM
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3. Did you write that yourself?
I only ask because it is more lucid than usual.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:01 AM
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5. Gee thanks LOL
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:06 AM
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10. You're not helping Obama with this kind of attack.
Welcome to my Hide Thread list.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:07 AM
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11. Oh, I think it cuts through the crap. And thank you for sustaining what I thought about cultists.
They have to hide threads that speak ill of the guru.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:12 AM
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16. I'm an Obama supporter. Now meet my IGNORE list.
buh bye shill
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:13 AM
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19. Take care!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:08 AM
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12. DAMN!
You've been here since January 26, 2008 and already have over 1,000 posts! :wow:

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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:10 AM
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13. What can I say. I'm opinionated.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:35 AM
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30. I've been here since 2004, and I still don't have 1000
LOL :rofl:
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:00 AM
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36. Well get busy, man!
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:10 AM
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14. Was this inspired by George Carlin's "Baseball versus Football?"
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:11 AM
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15. No, but I DO love that bit!!! Hilarious.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:22 AM
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24. I just listened to that for old times sake....damn thanks for the link.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:12 AM
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18. I'll canvass for her, donate to her and put a sign in my yard....
IF she is the nominee in the GE.


She was my last choice..... but if she is nominated she will have my undying support.




I'm rooting for Obama.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:15 AM
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21. Keep the faith. I'' have to vote with the nominee too....even if I think they will lose.
Which is really how I feel about a Hillary/McCain fight.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:15 AM
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20. Rec'd.
Spot on, unfortunatly...
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:16 AM
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23. danke...
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:26 AM
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25. OK, I will say this. I don't like the way you lump Hillary and all her DU supporters together and
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 02:29 AM by MetricSystem
label us as "Hillaryland." I think your arguments against Hillary would be more palatable if you didn't entwine them with the views of some of her supporters. For example while some on here may have called Sen. Kennedy "a big, dumb nobody," Hillary and many of her other supporters have not, so that kind of negates your notion of a homogeneous "Hillaryland." Frankly, your idea of a homogeneous "Democratland" is also unconvincing since it ignores the fact that there are many differing viewpoints on a wide range of issues within the party.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:29 AM
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28. Pot, meet kettle!
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:34 AM
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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:34 AM
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29. Another shitbag for my ignore list
I don't care if this gets deleted: you are obviously a paid poster, or shill, or whore, or troll, whatever language you like. I do not root for either Hillary or Barack, but it must be said: you are worse than a prostitute, and I enjoy the thought of you suffering in the next life for your villainy.

Cheers! I hope you like being sodomized by demons with cocks of thorn! http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38673
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:35 AM
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31. Thanks for your endorsement, and you have a nice night now.
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:43 AM
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32. then why
are the ensconced aristocracies all endorsing Obama?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:45 AM
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33. spot on
I've been hit by the hillbots to before, This bit is spot on and points to some major flaws in her candidacy. Although Obama is not perfect at least he's not a clinton and doesnt have a checkered past.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:58 AM
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34. "at least he's not a clinton and doesnt have a checkered past."
Tony Rezko thanks you for not mentioning him and Barack thanks you too for not mentioning his past...nevermind.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:00 AM
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35. Not even close....but thanks for playing.
And here's a hint: I wouldn't be throwing Rezko's name around much if you support Hillary. Looks like someone close to her is tied up with the guy too.

See what happens when you fling shit? It gets on ya.
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