johnnydrama
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Sat Feb-02-08 03:52 AM
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BILL MOYERS: Do you regret your vote for that resolution?
REP. HENRY WAXMAN: I certainly do regret my vote. I would not have cast that vote had I known that they were lying.
No equivocation, just flat out said he regretted it.
It doesn't seem that hard to do.
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ErnestoG
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Sat Feb-02-08 03:53 AM
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Why in the world can't Hillary do that?
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Sat Feb-02-08 03:58 AM
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2. He is not running for President. |
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They would tear her to pieces if she said that. It would be on ad after ad, and she would lose votes that the dem party needs to defeat the pugs.
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ErnestoG
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Sat Feb-02-08 04:01 AM
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4. Oh the fuck they would. She would salvage her honesty if she came clean |
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And that would be a POWERFUL asset to her campaign.
But by all means, keep encouraging her to hang on to an error, like Bush does.
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Sat Feb-02-08 04:00 AM
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3. The Clintons insist there were no lies |
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All the people who were in their Administration pushed the WMD propaganda as much as the Bushes did. They will not say the Bushies lied, and I don't think they've ever even seriously challenged the neocon agenda underlying the war either. There are all on the record too many times saying there was WMD in Iraq. They would be calling themselves and their entire Administration liars if they went down that path. That's the key reason I want a complete break with everything that has gone before us.
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johnnydrama
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Sat Feb-02-08 04:06 AM
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5. It's a great line from Waxman. |
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First he says he regets his vote, which he should. Second he says Bush lied.
Nobody wants to say the word lie ever about Bush. People dance around it so much, politicians, newspeople.
The fact is, she should have done this years ago, with exactly this kind of statement, and she would have been thanked for it.
The truth is, all of those who didn't read the NIE were suckered by a bunch of Bush lackies going up and down Capital here fibbing to anybody who wanted to listen.
I didn't need the NIE because I had Bush's people briefing me is not an answer I want from anybody I would want to support.
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Sat Feb-02-08 04:10 AM
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Another Bill Moyers point. Those 2 guys that were on "Buying The War" from Knight Ridder (now McClatchy), didn't even have the NIE, didn't have anything like that, yet they printed article after article about how bogus everything that Rice, Cheney, Bush were saying.
Somehow those 2 lowly reporters knew something that all those senator's didnt.
Which leads me to believe it wasn't a vote based on intelligence, but based on politics.
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Sat Feb-02-08 04:19 AM
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7. There is already plenty of talk referring to Clinton as a "Democratic Neocon" |
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which isn't helped by her involvement with Barbour Griffith PR Firm (republican run outfit) to replace Iraqi premiere Maliki with Allawi in order to force more of a confrontation in Iraq - good for the war business and for the PNAC group with whom Clinton is uncomfortably close anyway.
She is really her own worst enemy on this stuff.
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Sat Feb-02-08 04:32 AM
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8. Hmm, If Only They Would Have Looked At The Evidence |
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that we kept telling them was there. As I see it, the choice is admitting you were a moron or that you voted for it because you believed it was the politically savvy thing to do (you sold your soul).
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Sat Feb-02-08 04:34 AM
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9. Her situation is worse. She HAD contra-evidence to look at, but.... |
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didn't bother reading it.
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Sat Feb-02-08 05:10 AM
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10. Sorry, but there were enough Democrats who voted against it |
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They knew the War Powers Act should not be replaced with a resolution that allowed no accountability of the executive branch
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Sat Feb-02-08 05:12 AM
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11. Curious did Waxman also feel the same way about the Kyle/Lieberman amendment? /nt |
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