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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:32 AM
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LA Times: Obama advisor says Obama "doesn't go on television and have crying fits"
The new, hopeful politics shows its class:



...The jousting continued Friday when a top military advisor to Clinton's rival, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, ridiculed Clinton's implication that she would offer voters the better credentials.

The advisor, retired Gen. Merrill A. "Tony" McPeak, said in a telephone interview that Obama has "real gravitas, not artificially created, focus-grouped, poll-directed, rehearsed gravitas."

He also said Obama "doesn't go on television and have crying fits; he isn't discovering his voice at the age of 60" -- references to Clinton's much-publicized show of emotion during the New Hampshire primary campaign and her speech after winning the contest in which she declared that she had "found my voice."...

More: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-iraqpol2feb02,0,1272905.story
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:33 AM
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1. Obama is a stinking hypocrite.
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:35 AM
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2. Eh... truth hurts lol
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:12 AM
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27. If that's what passes as the truth with you
I didn't see her have a crying fit.

I also didn't see Obama snub Clinton at the SOTU address.

I also don't see a 15-year-old TV campaign in a stock photo on a mailer.

I don't see any truth in a lot of the bullshit that gets slung around this forum.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:35 AM
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3. Will this high level campaign official be fired by Obama for racism?
Oh, did I say racism? I meant sexism.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:35 AM
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4. That kind of stuff is uncalled for.
Shame on you,McPeak. And Obama for letting that enter in. That kind of stuff is what cooled me to the Clinton Campaign.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:35 AM
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5. jesus they make dumbass statements, nice way to piss off the womens vote.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:36 AM
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6. WOW. Once again- this is another reason I don't "get" Obama.
How is that ok?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:38 AM
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8. The OP is Spinning, this is the very next line...

McPeak later retracted his remarks, and the Obama camp disassociated itself from them.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:18 AM
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33. That is more than fair to note
But it is also fair to note that discussion about over the line remarks made by Clinton surragates who were forced out of her campaign as a result continued on DU for MONTHS after the fact. A thread calling attention to the fact that obnoxious comments are made by both sides is not inappropriate.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:20 AM
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35. I agree, however I think that very next line should have been included
Otherwise the OP is making it seem like Obama has said nothing and will continue to say nothing about it.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:21 AM
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36. Consensus! n/t
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:37 AM
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7. You forget this part? Nice SPIN JOB.

"McPeak later retracted his remarks, and the Obama camp disassociated itself from them."
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:41 AM
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11. yes, once the message was out there...
The Obama campaign has a habit of letting surrogates attack Clinton, then retracting/disassociating in unconvincing language.

Maybe they should adopt "Oops I Did It Again" as their anthem.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:12 AM
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26. You really need to get a life and stop spamming the board.
Is this a new moniker for Proud2bAmerican?

Getting very old.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:14 AM
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28. They're learning from the Clinton campaign nt
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:43 AM
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16. lol Really, since when do retractions matter to Obama?
Only when it suites him?

Please do show my dumb brain where the Obama campaign has accepted retrations by those against Obama?

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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:39 AM
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9. No he doesn't. But there is hope for him in the future.
Obama does not have his voice yet, in the sense that he is hearing the needs of the people.

In fact, the opposite is true. Obama tries to force his puff pieces down the people's throat. It works on some. Others clearly see the smoke and mirrors Obama uses.

Perhaps when Obama is 60 he will find his voice.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:39 AM
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10. Where was the outrage from the Clinton supporters when her
campaign was depicting Obama as a drug-using opportunist? That's a few jogs beyond tears in my book.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:41 AM
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12. As an Obama
supporter...that was total bullshiite.

I'm sure Obama feels the same way.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:42 AM
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13. The person who said those remarks retracted and the Obama camp disassociated themselves from them.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:44 AM
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17. The message is out there
And yes I'm sure the guy probably stepped down from his position but it has a sound of sexism to it, just my opinion.
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:43 AM
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14. uh, he himself describes his drug use in his autobiography
As for "opportunist"... well, it's not just the Clinton campaign that thinks that.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:51 AM
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22. The outrage came from EVERYWHERE in the Clinton camp, and the adviser was fired!
Within 24 hours, the Hillary supporter who made that unauthorized remark was fired.

Does Obama have as much integrity as Hillary?

Will he do the same and fire McPeak?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:43 AM
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15. I think both of them need to fire all of their "advisors".
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:47 AM
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21. Or at least STRONGLY remind their advisers that they are ADVISERS not SPOKESPEOPLE
and keep them as far away from mikes and notepads as possible.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:46 AM
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18. More sexist shit from the Jesus Camp.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:47 AM
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20. I see to remember Hillary invoking Jesus in the last debate.
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:54 AM
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23. sexist AND ageist. nt
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:46 AM
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19. Obama sure can mumble and fumble around for words
Platitudes is what he speaks in, so don't call the pot black if the Kettle is black in other ways.
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bluhoodie Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:55 AM
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24. Someone's been watching too much Ellen!
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 09:57 AM by bluhoodie
I guess the General was easily distracted, sitting at home with the TV now that he's retired.   :wtf:
  :crazy:                     :freak:
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:11 AM
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25. lol
:crazy: is right.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:14 AM
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29. OK, this one is by an Obama surragate - someone who is part of his campaign
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 10:20 AM by Tom Rinaldo
McKead is not just someone who has endorsed Obama. But he is not playing a "race card" so I wonder if anyone minds? The "discovering your voice at age 60" barb is negative and harsh, but this is politics. The "crying fit on TV" is a lie plus it plays right into anti-female stereotypes. It's thinly veiled sexism.

Veiled enough for ya?
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:16 AM
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30. Wow, just wow.....
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:17 AM
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31. General McPeak has been an outspoken advocate against the war.
I'll cut him some slack for that reason.

He's from the military. I was a female in the Military. The service has a long way to go in giving women their due. He stuck his foot in his mouth, but I'm sorry, that off the cuff remark is much different than the organized efforts of the clinton campaign with sending out that Muslim email, Bob Kerry referencing Barack Hussein Obama in a national press conference and Bill Shaheens efforts, not to mention the dirty politics of bill clinton.

this little comment, while not appropriate, pales in comparison!


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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:17 AM
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32. What I do not understand is the total double standard.
If a Clinton surrogate had said anything like this--he would have been fired and the media would have replayed it as "outrageous" hourly. And DU, why DU would have been in a frenzy.

Yet sexism and lies and distortions are unanswered by Obama. His behavior in this campaign is too reminiscent of what Bush did to Gore and Kerry.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:19 AM
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34. This smells like the politics of personal destruction, lol
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