I Think It's Safe to say That Hillary's Stunt in Florida Didnt work

[MadBadger]

From the momentum we see, Florida didnt really have an effect on this race. Her "win" in Florida didnt slow down his momentum. Maybe it was the John Edwards/Rudy announcements or something else, but that little stunt she pulled in the days following SC hasnt worked.

Flame away

[katmondoo]

1. How do you know

Are you going to vote for one of the Repug right wing whacko's instead to prove your point

[MadBadger]

2. ummm...no? Changing the subject I see.

[goldcanyonaz]

3. Well his stunt in South Carolina seems to have worked. He's got the black vote voting in a block.

[Inuca]

12. Winning a primary is a stunt? n/t

[goldcanyonaz]

14. But, you're perfectly okay with the OP statement.

[Inuca]

21. The OP expressed a personal opinion

about a specific political maneuver. Facts so far seem to indicate that s/he is right, but I do not know for sure. You OTOH qualified the results of a heavily contested primary as a "stunt".As to the KoolAid, thanks but I prefer fewer chemicals in my drinks, the actual as well as the metaphorical ones.

[Windy]

4. It may very well have hurt her. I was painfully obvious what she was doing

If the youth voters, who are very politically aware these days, come out to vote, you can put a fork in her.

My son is 20. Her little florida trip was the topic of conversation while he and his friends were playing darts in our basement last sunday.


Not only that, but many people I know here in Michigan thought that her actions in calling that press conference were appalling and unethical.

[demo dutch]

7. Very political my ass maybe on DU. As a Political Science teacher I don't see it!

[never_get_over_it]

9. and I have to say

all these "very political" yuts who are all fired up in January and early February better get their sorry asses out to vote in November They are NOT reliable voters where those blue haired ladies and their husbands ARE....

edit for spelling

[demo dutch]

10. Case in point the 2004 election & the NH primary, where was the University crowd????

[Windy]

11. I suppose that is what you're hoping for huh.

Your argument is unsupported. The youth vote had a SIGNIFICANT effect on the midterms.

Sorry to dissapoint you.

http://www.civicyouth.org/PopUps/PR_midterm_06.pdf

http://www.pewtrusts.org/our_work_ektid24462.aspx

http://www.campusprogress.org/features/1281/the-kids-are-alright

[demo dutch]

24. It wasn't just about the youth vote. Look at all the Blue dog dems that won in "06

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. I think the media has a huge effect on people. And the non-stop lies

and distortions about Clinton are having an effect. Obama also did fund raising in Florida and visited and spoke. Obama also played ads in Florida, which I think IS campaigning. and I know that if Clinton had done that--DU would have exploded.

There is a double standard. Everything Clinton does is hyper-dissected-while-looking-for-the-most-negative-twist. Obama is forgiven and excused for everything what he does and what he doesn't do.

[shaniqua6392]

13. Don't you know that he is just PERFECT???

That is the problem I have with him. People are like sheeple following everything about him. It reminds me of how people were with Bush. I have not seen one Obama supporter have a problem with anything about him. How can this be? None of our candidates are perfect. Why can't they admit to any imperfections in him?

[MethuenProgressive]

5. 'Stunt'? Like violating Party rules by running TV ads that reached 90% of Florida households?

Or do you mean her rally after the polls closed and after beating Obama by 300K votes?
Yeah, a 300K vote victory is quite a "stunt."

[Perky]

20. Oh gve it a rest.

its done its over... the only people raising a stink is Hillary voters.... any you won handidly in Florida. Next.

[MethuenProgressive]

23. "Oh give it a rest. its done its over" Dude. Look up at the OP.

The only people still whining about Florida are Obamanaughts.

[Perky]

30. ok

[demo dutch]

6. Florida and Ohio will decide the GE. The great MIDDLE majority! Not Kennedy-left!

Hillary is ahead in Ohio so....

[Thrill]

15. Well I heard Zogby on Potus say

She had a huge lead in the early voting in FLorida. But the votes on the Primary day in Florida were trending to Obama. So I actually that Florida was a better sign of his momentum

[Tom Rinaldo]

22. Wrong

The voters who voted for Clinton on election day supported her overwhelmingly. Despite Obamna's impressive South Carolina victory, very few Democrats abandoned Clinton (who was always way ahead in Florida) on election day, they stuck with her. The relatively small percentage of undecided voters in Florida trended toward Obama in the week before the election, but those who decided on election day itself trended toward Clinton.

[demo dutch]

25. and that my friend will be the case for the rest of the South!

[scheming daemons]

26. Election day voters went to Hillary by 34-30 over Obama....

...strange definition of "overwhelmingly" you got there.

[Tom Rinaldo]

28. You have your facts dead wrong.

The voters who DECIDED on election day who to vote for went for Hillary 34 to 30 over Obama. That is not the same as the much much much larger pool of people who VOTED on election day, they went for Clinton overwhelmingly. The confusion is caused by the fact that many Florida Democrats voted BEFORE election day in early voting or by absentee ballots. Therefor commentators break out the actual election day voters seperate from the total of all who voted.

Recheck your source. You are reading the break out of how LATE DECIDERS voted in Florida. That statistic is only of Florida voters who actually voted on Election Day who did not decide how to vote UNTIL Election Day, NOT Election Day voters.

[Tom Rinaldo]

16. The only "stunt" was calling an election in which about 1.5 million Democrats voted

meaningless.

[joshcryer]

18. Indeed.

1.5 million Democrats. "Meaningless." "Didn't count." "Worthless."

Welcome to consumerist media.

[Perky]

17. No I think her win was totally discounter....I don't think her visit hurt her

but it clearly did not benefit her.

[MadBadger]

19. I'm kind of referring to the whole thing.

Like how her campaign last minute tried to make it seem like Florida was sooo important, even though they had previously said its a race for delegates.

[billybob537]

27. Cheap sleazy stunts

don't impress me they just remind me she was a republican first.
In fact if she's the nominee I'll just stay home.

[BenDavid]

29. "I find it incredible that Hillary received 165,000 votes more votes

than McCain without even trying.She outpaced Obama by 288,000 and the whore media and obama folks were like "uh huh!" Yet when Obama wins SC with over 50% of the vote being African American the praise is heaped upon him like it was the greatest accomplishment ever.

That goes for obama supporters too. Hillary's victories are always minimized, but whenever Obama gets an endorsement its WOW! Amazing!!" Suddenly, some Democrats believe every word the whore media feeds them.