My wife, a former Hillary supporter, now supports Obama.

[Dawgs]

First of all, let me say that I've always been an Obama supporter. My wife has always like Hillary mainly because she likes strong woman.

Her reasons for switching to Obama are more because of two things she has seen from Hillary. One was because of Hillary's performance in NH. She was disappointed in how Hillary got emotional in the debate, and how she "cried" the next day. The second was her performance at the JJ dinner in Georgia on Wednesday. Hillary spoke at this dinner for over half an hour. After leaving I asked my wife what she thought. She said, "I was not impressed. She looked tired and uninspiring."

Last night she told me that she was going to vote for Obama. I am so happy.

[AGirl]

1. how sad .

Hillary is punished for being overworked and being a human.

[Windy]

2. Punished? If this individual heard her speech and changed her mind as a result

the problem is with the candidate, not the voter.

[GalleryGod]

21. A testament to an American life in turmoil...

Flawlessly written; impeccably documented.

[neutron]

33. Send your Wife to the Website of each candidate

go through the endoresements, read the work done by each candidate.

If she hasn't done this then she is uninformed and joining a group that is banging
the drum for a sweet guy, but mediocre candidate.

[HonestyIsAVirtue]

4. ...

I'm sure she always has our best interests at heart: /sarcasm
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/1/234527/0014/392/448115

[1corona4u]

5. Yeah, I was thinking that too...

tell your wife, we won't miss her shallow support of Hillary.

[KittyWampus]

14. A LOT of the Clinton's support was shallow. That's why they're bleeding support nationally & have to

rely on the rush to Tuesday so Obama can't campaign in person in enough states to pull that far ahead.

However, he'll come close enough that when it comes to the later states when he has more time, he'll win.

[1corona4u]

22. And the more divisive messages he puts out there...

the more votes he will lose. Count on it. By the way, I'm sick of your particular perals of wisdom, which always seem to be directed at me, so I'm putting you on ignore now.

[goldcanyonaz]

6. The OP has been one of the biggest ABC's around here, more an attention OP than a true one.

I wouldn't believe anything he says.

[HonestyIsAVirtue]

8. So this article is wrong?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/1/234527/0014/392/448115

I'm sure HRC supporters are avoiding it for a reason.

[goldcanyonaz]

10. Should I start posting all the "Why I won't vote for Obama" dribble too?

More shit from the Jesus Camp.

Here have some

[1corona4u]

13. Yeah, me too....that would take a while though....

it's a very long list...

[HonestyIsAVirtue]

15. With all due respect...

how can you defend that behaviour? I've had people steal credit off me and it's morally reprehensible...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/1/234527/0014/392/448115

Have you even read the article?

[City Lights]

24. Be careful playing that "Jesus Camp" card.

:hi:

Hillary's Prayer: Hillary Clinton's Religion and Politics
For 15 years, Hillary Clinton has been part of a secretive religious group that seeks to bring Jesus back to Capitol Hill. Is she triangulating—or living her faith?

Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet
September 01 , 2007

It was an elegant example of the Clinton style, a rhetorical maneuver subtle, bold, and banal all at once. During a Democratic candidate forum in June, hosted by the liberal evangelical group Sojourners, Hillary Clinton fielded a softball query about Bill's infidelity: How had her faith gotten her through the Lewinsky scandal?

After a glancing shot at Republican "pharisees," Clinton explained that, of course, her "very serious" grounding in faith had helped her weather the affair. But she had also relied on the "extended faith family" that came to her aid, "people whom I knew who were literally praying for me in prayer chains, who were prayer warriors for me."

Such references to spiritual warfare—prayer as battle against Satan, evil, and sin—might seem like heavy evangelical rhetoric for the senator from New York, but they went over well with the Sojourners audience, as did her call to "inject faith into policy." It was language that recalled Clinton's Jesus moment a year earlier, when she'd summoned the Bible to decry a Republican anti-immigrant initiative that she said would "criminalize the good Samaritan...and even Jesus himself." Liberal Christians crowed ("Hillary Clinton Shows the Way Democrats Can Use the Bible," declared a blogger at TPMCafe) while conservative pundits cried foul, accusing Clinton of scoring points with a faith not really her own.

In fact, Clinton's God talk is more complicated—and more deeply rooted—than either fans or foes would have it, a revelation not just of her determination to out-Jesus the gop, but of the powerful religious strand in her own politics. Over the past year, we've interviewed dozens of Clinton's friends, mentors, and pastors about her faith, her politics, and how each shapes the other. And while media reports tend to characterize Clinton's subtle recalibration of tone and style as part of the Democrats' broader move to recapture the terrain of "moral values," those who know her say there's far more to it than that.

more... http://www.motherjones.com/cgi-bin/print_article.pl?url=http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

[Dawgs]

17. Fine with me.

All I know is that me, and now my wife, are voting for Obama.

[Dawgs]

32. Like I said, my wife likes strong woman.

Hillary showed some weaknesses that my wife doesn't like. That is all - nothing more.

[elizm]

3. Great to have her aboard! Sure she will enjoy the ride! :) nt

[DemGa]

7. Hillary cried in public? I must have missed that one

And she has been working extremely hard; insight says give her just a little a break on that one.

[HonestyIsAVirtue]

9. She has been working hard.

At lying to others and stealing credit when she has done nothing:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/1/234527/0014/392/448115

Completely indefensible... but HRC supporters will try anyway.

[KittyWampus]

23. thanks for posting that story about Hillary. It is damning. And deserves it's own thread

as a NY resident, it rings true.

[City Lights]

29. Cali posted it earlier.

:hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4346457&mesg_id=4346457

[Dawgs]

19. Well, it wasn't a real "cry".

[MethuenProgressive]

11. The film from the event disagrees with your wife's assement.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/1/113138/2973/902/447597

Maybe you guys had bad seats.

[Evergreen Emerald]

12. I guess the problem I have with your wife's decision is that it is based on superficial criteria

"tired and uninspiring." Well, if you are looking for an entertainer for President, Obama certainly is your guy. He is a perrty talker and provides lots of inspiring (albeit hollow) words.

The fact that she cried: ya...that human quality is really annoying in Clinton. She is too bitchy and cold--don't vote for her. She shows a nano-second of humanity--don't vote for her.


Sorry, I do not mean to belittle you or your wife. This is a democracy and we can choose our Presidents for any number of reasons. Why, some even choose the one they want to have a beer with. The seemed to turn out well for America.

[HonestyIsAVirtue]

18. Beer

Ummm... you do realise that not wanting to vote for a thief and a person with blood on their hands (i.e. war in Iraq) is not "substanceless"

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/1/234527/0014/392/448115

Who steals credit? Oh that's right, HRC. But you don't care about that now, do you?

[Evergreen Emerald]

27. The blood is on all of our hands. Including the great and all-inspiring OBAMA

who continued to fund the war despite his big-perrty-words. All talk. The opposite of action. When it counts--when HE DOES HAVE AN OPTION he went with the status quo. You can twist and bend him to be who you want him to be, but it is smoke and mirrors.

If you are supporting Obama YOU SUPPORT SOMEONE WITH BLOOD ON HIS HANDS.

[HonestyIsAVirtue]

28. Obama didn't vote for the war

He has no blood on his hands.

Hillary and Edwards should be sent to Iraq for what they've done.

[Evergreen Emerald]

31. Obama voted for the war

EVERY TIME HE FUNDED IT. The only reason he did not vote IWR, is because he was not in the SENATE. But, his words then (after the one speech) were the same as Bush's

[zulchzulu]

38. Again, you LIE. Obama supports the troops in harm's way thanks to people like Hillary

Obama never said he agreed with Bush on the war. That's an old, tired, wrinkled lie from Planet Hillaryworld.

Obama voted for funding to protect the troops, for support for the VA, for funding the troops that come home injured or maimed. He was way ahead of the curve on the Iraq war and Hillary and her fans just can't stand the truth about that.

[Evergreen Emerald]

46. Nope. You are wrong.

Obama's actions speak louder than words. He has perrty words and his actions are "what ever is best for Obama." He can miss the Kyl-L vote and then later claim whatever he wants. He can say he is against the war, then back track then be musshy about it, cause he was not there to vote. And then when he finally does have that opportunity to do something he votes for the war every time.

He is not brave. He is a chicken candidate.

[annie1]

40. seriously.

[GalleryGod]

16. Mine left Hillary after reading...

Read it & Weep:wtf:

[Dawgs]

20. So did my Mom. She read both Hillary's and Obama's books.

She just recently voted for Obama in Florida.

[GalleryGod]

25. Thanks for your reply

Carl did a magnificent job.
Speaking of a smart woman, in a real short skirt (Jimmy Buffett)

Slobbering, Mika-moment!

[Evergreen Emerald]

34. She read a hit piece on Clinton and a book Obama wrote himself

and used that as criteria to vote for Obama? Too bad she did not read a book Clinton wrote rather than a hit piece.

But, that is America today. Clinton is hit and attacked constantly, and Obama is the saint in all the media. It is no wonder is his winning.

[annie1]

41. when someone rights a hit piece on obama maybe she'll change her mind to..???

[SoFlaJet]

26. you know Dawgs

I'm convinced that there are paid workers for the Clinton campaign on this site and that whenever anybody posts something like you just did, they go into attack mode. I wrote one about my cousin last week saying he was thinking about voting for McCain if she was the nominee and they went off on me and it. Truth is they see some big conspiracy and boogie men hiding under every keyboard stroke-man I hope, no I PRAY her and her ilk aren't in charge come next January because it's going to be a long 4 years-that's as long as it'll last-if that

[Dawgs]

30. Thanks. I've been accused many times of lying.

They couldn't be more wrong.

I wouldn't waste my time writing something like this, or even anything else, if I didn't believe it or if it wasn't true.

[SoFlaJet]

35. I don't think you're lying bro

I believe there are people who are criticizing you that are hired guns of the Clinton campaign-I have thought so for a couple of months-so many new posters who suddenly have ascended on DU defending her and starting all these sell-job threads for Clinton-go Obama. I hate fake people

[City Lights]

36. Thanks for sharing your story, Dawgs.

:hi: Glad your wife has seen the light! :bounce:

[zulchzulu]

37. K&R #5

I'm glad for both of you. I bet she feels like a huge weight was lifted off her shoulder.

[annie1]

39. so of all the issues, she's no longer voting for hillary b/c she got tired and emotional. ok.

[goldcanyonaz]

43. Does this even surprise you?

[annie1]

54. After watching Bush get as many votes as he did twice, it does not suprise me. just upsets me.

[Darth_Kitten]

48. Well, we all know how women hold other women to a higher standard...

a man, well, he can do anything, support policies that really help noone, etc, but hey, if a woman anywhere on the planet so much as has a frown flash across her face, be prepared for some woman out there to get highly offended. That's a no no!!! :sarcasm:

[usregimechange]

42. Welcome aboard!

[jasmine621]

44. I simply just don't believe this post. Any woman who gets angry because

another woman show emotion is a fiction.

[goldcanyonaz]

47. The OP is a very vocal ABC around here. Not a surprise that his "wife" would feel the same.

[annie1]

55. ahhhh, now the post makes sense. thanks

[Darth_Kitten]

45. Wow.

apparently she must not have been quite that loyal a supporter.

Wow, women turning on their own because they are, well, human. Must be so easy to be a man. :sarcasm:

[peoli]

49. I love your wife!

[goldcanyonaz]

50. Phyllis Schlafly endorses this OP!

[Nimrod2005]

51. Same here......nt

[paulk]

52. at least that's what she's telling you...

[shaniqua6392]

53. My husband, a former Obama supporter, now supports Clinton.

It is funny how people can change their minds, eh? It was actually when she showed emotion in NH that he was impressed with her. Before he thought she was too cold. He also thought she kicked ass in the debates and would do the best job against any of the Republicans that may get the nomination.