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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:32 PM
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On The "Dream Team" Scenario... Would Either Clinton Or Obama Give Up A Senate Seat For VP ???


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In 1932, Garner ran for the Democratic Presidential nomination, becoming one of New York Governor Franklin Roosevelt's most serious opponents for the nomination. When it became evident that Roosevelt would win the nomination, Garner cut a deal with the front-runner, becoming Roosevelt's Vice Presidential candidate. He was re-elected to the Seventy-third Congress on November 8, 1932, and on the same day was elected Vice President of the United States. He was reelected Vice President in 1936 and served in that office from March 4, 1933 to January 20, 1941. Garner once described the office of the vice presidency as being "not worth a bucket of warm piss."

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Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nance_Garner

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:33 PM
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1. No.
Hillary doesn't need an ambitious schemer plotting her destruction every day of her administration.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:35 PM
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2. I don't
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 02:36 PM by tyne
see what Hillary could bring to Obama's ticket (except forcing people to choose McCain instead that is).
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:38 PM
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6. The Clintons don't settle for Mediocrity
in a VP. Al Gore was Bill's choice. What does Barack have that the country needs?
He's a right wing wanna be.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:14 PM
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18. Just because he's right doesn't mean he's right wing.
D'uh.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:38 PM
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5. Because if there's one thing Hillary Clinton ISN'T, it's an "ambitious schemer"--
:rofl:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:36 PM
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3. Hillary would make
an awesome Majority Leader if she doesn't win.

I don't see her taking a VP spot, though the VP certainly has had a lot more power since Bush has been in office.

I could see Obama as VP on a Clinton ticket.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:42 PM
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12. That's an administrative/cat herding job, not a wonk job. She prefers policy.
She'd probably love to take SASC from Kennedy if she doesn't make it to the show. That's a committee with some serious clout.
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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:36 PM
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4. Heard a political talking head comment that both candidates were trying to be careful,
and not fracture the party. If the split started, it may be a necessity for them to run togethe. I'm not sure I agree with that, but it IS an interesting take.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:39 PM
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7. Yep... I've Heard...
that the party might try to "force" a unity ticket with the two, if things get really bad.

:shrug:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:39 PM
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8. Obama might, if he were willing to wait eight years for the mantle.
He would have to dedicate himself to closing any gaps and working to maintain the power of the alliance in order to get the prize at the end of her administration.

Clinton wouldn't. She's not going to run at age 68 for the top slot. She isn't without clout in the Senate. By then, she could possibly be Chair of the SASC.

VPs aren't like they were in the old days. Carter actually started the trend, Clinton really used Gore, and we've seen how Cheney does all of Bush's homework.

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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:42 PM
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10. if they could work together,
and Obama were VP, he'd be great traveling the world rebuilding our image. Somebody's got to.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:03 PM
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14. The uninformed voter, of which there were MANY back in the sixties, never realized that
JFK and LBJ didn't have a "warm affection" for one another and weren't in each other's back pockets, each and every day. The White House Spin Machine, aided and abetted by the press, made sure that was the impression we took away with us, though:




Professionals can and do work together. I think they could manage. It's certainly an easier trick now than it was in Johnson's day, when VPs had little to do save serve as Laddie In Waiting.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:07 PM
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15. And Bobby... HATED LBJ !!!
Tried to prevent the deal from going through at the convention, if recollecting correctly.

:shrug:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:23 PM
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20. And here's how the WH press, and the media managed that at the end of the day!


Of course he left the administration...to grieve...!
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:40 PM
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9. They wouldn't have to
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 02:44 PM by EffieBlack
Their seats are not up this year.

I couldn't name a single VP nominee who has given up their Senate seat in order to run.

Lieberman didn't (in fact, unlike the others, he ran for both VP and his Senate seat at the same time), Gore didn't do it, Quayle didn't do it. Mondale didn't do it. LBJ didn't do it. Nixon didn't do it. Truman didn't do it.

That's as far as I can go back by memory.

Dole gave up his seat - but that was to run for president, not VP. Edwards didn't give up his seat to run for VP - he decided not to try to keep his seat while running for president - he was in a difficult spot because his seat was actually up in the same year he ran.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:47 PM
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13. True, But If The Ticket Were To Win...
then they'd have to give up their seats, no???

I wouldn't do it, but that is of no consequence here, LOL!

:hi:
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:13 PM
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16. Yes - they'd have to give up their seats if they won
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:16 PM
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19. And That Is All I'm Saying... If It Were Me...
I'd rather remain a Senator.

OTOH - Who knows what power-sharing agreements could be made.

:shrug:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:42 PM
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11. They won't be on the same ticket. nt
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:14 PM
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17. Both states have Dem governors, so, not a big deal.
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