Obama Picks Up LGBT Supporters From Edwards

[davidinalameda]

http://www.advocate.com/print_article_ektid52017.asp

A critical mass of John Edwards’s LGBT steering committee is going public with support for Sen. Barack Obama over Sen. Hillary Clinton. Twenty-two members of the Edwards campaign’s original 59-person gay and lesbian committee will now be working for Obama victories next Tuesday and throughout the rest of the primary season.

The new Obama converts include Eric Stern, who headed up Edwards’s LGBT steering committee, and longtime gay activist David Mixner, who famously campaigned for Bill Clinton in 1992, holding some of the first gay fund-raisers for a U.S. presidential candidate.

Mixner, a peace activist during the war in Vietnam, came out early for Edwards after the former North Carolina senator made an unequivocal case for ending the Iraq war at the historic Riverside Church in New York City.

[bidenista]

1. i wonder if they'll have offices across from mcclurkin?

Would make for interesting water cooler conversation.

[KittyWampus]

9. it's like a peculiar form of Turette's Syndrome amongst Hillary supporters who don't care about gays

enough to protest their own candidates pandering to homophobes.

[mondo joe]

41. You're so full of shit you probaby have to TP your face when you burp. You don't care in the least

about gays - you just want our votes for your own purposes.

[KittyWampus]

52. I was married to a gay man for 8 years and live with he and his partner. I just care about honesty

[mondo joe]

55. That speaks to your poor judgment about assessing important decisions. NT

[Jed Dilligan]

56. That was fucking cold.

Two of my best friends have gay dads. Their coming out was painful for the whole family. How dare you belittle this woman just because she loved someone who didn't completely know himself?

[mondo joe]

57. It doesn't belittle her to acknowledge that she's shown poor judgment - between

this, creationism and an array of other unfortunate positions.

[Jed Dilligan]

58. I don't know anything about her view on creationism

but saying that marrying the person she (presumably) loved was poor judgment is pretty distasteful.

[mondo joe]

59. I can't treat everyone with kid gloves.

You're a nice person, though.

[Jed Dilligan]

60. I'm really not

But I only stomp people for a good reason.

[mondo joe]

61. It's not my intent to engage in a prolonged tit-for-tat on this.

I'd just say I think I have good enough reason.

I respect that you disagree.

:-)

[KittyWampus]

63. I am emphatically NOT a Creationist. I don't believe in god. I AM an Idealist, a perfectly solid

philosophical stance from which to view the world and engage in scientific inquiry.

[KittyWampus]

64. What important decision are you referencing? My marriage? It was more like an adoption by two men

who are more my family than my biological family.

They gave me a safe environment to develop my personality.

[KennedyGuy]

2. The Democratic branch of the Log Cabin Republicans...

there's always a few...
wonder if they came for the "cure"?

[Deja Q]

31. More importantly, anybody care why some would want to take the "cure"?

Or is that a taboo question?

[Cha]

3. My Ultimate Issue..

the bombings on Iraq. Thank you, David Mixner!

[maddiejoan]

4. Maybe they are unhappy homosexuals

that wish to be cured?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

6. maddiejoan sometimes i want to reach through my computer and.....

give you a huge hug

[maddiejoan]

11. Hug accepted!

and given back!

{{{{hugz}}}}}}

[davidinalameda]

17. does that make me an unhappy homosexual because I'm supporting obama

just curious

[maddiejoan]

28. I dunno

:shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

5. i think clinton is a far better bet for the lgbt community that obama

[UALRBSofL]

8. I agree

:)

[davidinalameda]

24. especially since she flip-flopped on DOMA?

up until a few months ago, she was still supporting parts of DOMA which was signed into law BY HER HUSBAND

I love how everyone has forgotten about her support for DOMA

I think that's a bit more important than Obama having Donnie boy appear while everyone has forgotten that Obama also had a gay minister appear at the same event

[Deja Q]

33. But Hillary is not Bill. Shame, shame, go pray for rain.

Unfortunately, all the jokes that her election would make it Bill's 3rd term... or Hillary's 3rd term are somewhat entertaining...

[davidinalameda]

39. go back and look at her comments on DOMA

and let's not forget the whole co-presidency thing when Bill was in office

I'm curious to know where she stood when HER HUSBAND signed the bill into law

and it's raining now so I don't have to pray for rain

[MH1]

25. Even though Bill Clinton signed DOMA.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. yes i think bill clinton signed doma to prevent a constitiional amendment defining marriage

as between one man and one woman.

[JackBeck]

35. Delete.

GOt some dates mixed up.

[MH1]

36. And to disallow partnership rights to gay couples.

Which is why John Kerry and several others voted against it, and Clinton shouldn't have signed it.

[DURHAM D]

53. Don't need to "think" he did - that is exactly why he did.

Most don't care to know the actual history/reason behind DOMA. It was much discussed with the movement leaders at the time.

Last I heard Obama didn't have anything on his website indicating that he had an advisory board. Maybe he has added something now that S.C. is past.

Bill Clinton took a lot of heat about the number of staff members and appointments he made from our community. He ignored it. Hillary also had many staff members that are/were gay. She ignored it. I was personally astonished at their open support. They didn't have to do it - they just did it. That is who they are.

Seems like some GLBT folk are ignoring reality now. When Obama talks about the GLBT community he is reading from a script. When Hillary talks about our community she is speaking from her heart. Her heart has been with us from her undergraduate days. She is, and always has been, surrounded by gay and lesbian friends and staffers.

I was talking with a friend a few weeks ago. We go way back (almost 35 years) working in the movement together. We both understand that Obama "has a problem" with us. We can see it because it was necessary to be ever alert to this attitude. My friend and I were celebrating that for the followup generations there is so much less need to be aware of that attitude. At the same time you are much less practiced at spotting it.

So many just wanted an apology from Obama about McClurkin - you gave Obama the benefit of the doubt. You thought he had made a mistake and once he understood he had hurt us he would undo it. It has not happened. It was not a mistake. It is who he is - he is homophobic.

[DURHAM D]

51. Absolutely no question. n/t

[jasmine621]

7. Even though Edwards voted for the war and made some early remarks

about those who opposed the war? This is the most confusing election in my memory.

[maximusveritas]

10. It's sad how anyone who endorses Obama is automatically trashed

by a hoard of Clintonites.

They seem to reflect the ruthlessness of their candidate.

[maddiejoan]

14. It's sad

That you dismiss legitimate concerns of some of the LGBT community as mere partisanship.

Did it occur to you there is a REASON I support Hillary over Obama?

[QC]

19. But how could anyone have legitimate concerns with The Son of God?

Don't you see? He's going to make us believe, which leads to hope, which leads to change, which leads to lots of ponies.

[davidinalameda]

26. do you have any idea how offensive your post is?

son of God?

nice

[QC]

62. Do you have any idea how tiresome personality cults are? n/t

[davidinalameda]

66. you should talk to some of the Clinton supporters about that

Hillary and Bill can do no wrong

[Sapphocrat]

42. maddie, didn't you get THAT memo, either?

Queers who support Obama are mainstream Democrats whose opinions are valued and must be respected -- after all, LGBTs comprise a significant and important voting bloc.

Queers who do not support Obama are fringe radicals -- and probably not even real queers anyway, but Hillbots in disguise, what with all that transparent faux outrage -- but none of this matters, since, after all, LGBTs comprise such a small, powerless minority, the Democrats really don't need them anyway.

[maddiejoan]

44. Oh

Being a transgendered dyke --I rarely get memos (or even support from most of the mainstream LGBT community)

[Sapphocrat]

50. I wish I *didn't* get those memos...

...but the message always comes through, loud and clear.

I hear you re support from the mainstream LGBT community (whatever that is) -- which is another subject for another day, but suffice to say, you have mine (whatever that's worth), unconditionally. I love me my transgendered sisters & brothers. (And Barney Frank can take a flying leap for selling out on ENDA. If "equality" is throwing TGs under the bus so I won't lose a job, fuck it -- I don't want it. That's privilege, not equality.)

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. obama had my support equally till mcclurkin happened. so the reason i 'trash' him

is because he supports someone who believes that i need a cure

[mondo joe]

46. Me too. The reason I'm against 0bama is his actions. He had me until then.

I've been told I only mention McClurkin because I'm against 0bama. But the reverse is true: I'm against 0bama because of McClurkin.

[NMMNG]

40. It's sad how anybody who doesn't endorse Obama is automatically trashed.

Belittled, called names, shat upon, marginalized and made to feel like they're worthless scum.

Then the Obama supporters turn around and act as if they're the persecuted ones.

[CTLawGuy]

12. good to hear from mainstream gay activists

NT

[mondo joe]

18. "Mainstream Gay Activists"?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[CTLawGuy]

22. these people aren't mainstream?

Nt

[mondo joe]

29. Since when do gay activists get labeled mainstream at all? Or activists at all, for that matter?

These distinctions are a stretch.

[NMMNG]

37. Interesting how people who support Obama are "mainstream"

And anybody who doesn't is "fringe". :eyes:

[mondo joe]

38. I'm sure the Log Cabin Republicans also think they are mainstream and realistic.

I wish people would learn to disagree without trying to demean or insult those they disagree with.

[NMMNG]

43. I'm sure they do

I'm afraid I can't begin to fathom sucking up to people who want to destroy me.


I wish people would learn to disagree without trying to demean or insult those they disagree with.

Ironically the ones who are worst at that spend all their time claiming they're so abused by the other side. One who makes 200+ posts a day, most of which are used to call people nasty names and attack people who don't support his candidate, claims that others are nasty and post on DU too much. Pot, meet kettle.

[QC]

20. "mainstream gay activists" = Obamatologists n/t

[CTLawGuy]

23. no, they are activists who retain perspective on reality

rather than getting worked up over one stupid incident.

[mondo joe]

30. You have confused your personal bias with perspective on reality.

Oopsy.

[CTLawGuy]

47. ditto to you

NT

[mondo joe]

48. Except I haven't said people who disagree with me don't have perspective on reality. That was your

insult for people who disagree with you. Not mine.

[surfermaw]

13. Ha Ha Ha

No way he is going to pick up many Edwards voters,

[QC]

16. Not this one.

I will not ever, under any circumstances, vote for Donnie McClurkin's best buddy.

[Adamocrat]

21. Sorry, but Obama ain't getting my gay vote...

He definitely does not have the gay vote here in ATL. Too many homo-curing snake oil salesmen here have turned us off.

[zulchzulu]

65. I take you won't be voting for Hillary either

Since you're playing the Purity Vote, you must certainly know that Hillary has declared homophobes endorsing her on her web site as well as a few on her payroll. Then there's Billy with that nutty uber-homophobic "Defense of Marriage Act" that he made so many homophobes beam with joy.

[mondo joe]

32. I'm sure 0bama will get gay votes. If he's the nominee he'll get mine in the GE but not the primary

- and not with pleasure.

[theHandpuppet]

34. He didn't pick up this one

My partner and I were Edwards supporters and Obama and his "ex-gay" pulpit-pounding pals can kiss my gay ass.

[Straight Shooter]

45. I'm sure Barack will "embrace" each and every one of them.

At arm's length.

[DURHAM D]

49. Poor David Mixner - he would kiss me to get attention. n/t

[hulklogan]

54. It must be Obamanaut math to claim that 22 out of 59 is a "critical mass" of support

37 percent? Seems awfully close to Senator Obama's national poll numbers.