Why don't we see threads about Hillary drawing 15,000-20,000 each day?

[elizm]

Maybe she does and her folks just don't post them? :shrug:

Or is it just that she doesn't inspire the masses? I'm ready to be flamed but I think it is just a legitimate question.

[neutron]

1. Because her Supporters are out Campaigning

instead of spending their lives in blogland

[elizm]

10. Nice try....I volunteered for Obama in SC but still managed to make every rally within 100 miles.

[aquart]

29. Why?

You already knew you were going to vote for him. What is the frightening need to assure yourself that you aren't doing anything that requires courage...you know, like being the only one to do it? Or, say, going against the overwhelming will of everyone you know and lots of strangers?

I was just watching 30,000 parrots attack a peanut field in Australia. It's very safe and assuring to do things in large groups. Our national bird is the eagle. We save our admiration for the one who has the courage to fly alone.

[sniffa]

44. Is that what you're doing

Instead of posting on blogs.

[thevoiceofreason]

65. True . . . . .

She came to Houston ----- in 1999.

[PeaceNikki]

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[Divine Discontent]

11. that was wrong!!! but funny in a sarcstic way n/t

[elizm]

14. Oh, geesh, not ANOTHER one. nt

[cboy4]

17. Oh no you d'int

:spray:

[no name no slogan]

21. So you're saying Hillary has a big payroll, then?

:shrug:

[Deja Q]

23. Tata does.

:yoiks:

[scheming daemons]

46. Um.... not according to exit polls.....

Those in middle to higher income levels: Pro Obama

Those in lower income levels: Pro Clinton

Those with college degrees: Pro Obama

Those with less education: Pro Clinton



The more successful and educated one is, the more likely one is an Obama supporter. That's not me talking, that's the clear indication in the exit polls in every state so far.


The ones with JOBS and with MORE education like Obama.

[elizm]

49. Yep, 'tis true. nt

[mrreowwr_kittty]

4. She did get 10000 in Phoenix 2 weeks ago

Of course, Barack got 13000 last Wednesday! :)

[elizm]

16. He got 20,000 today. :) nt

[1corona4u]

30. Yeah?

Link please. All I've seen in the news is 15K.

[ZinZen]

5. I have been thinking the same thing

Put some pictures up Hillary supporters.

[MADem]

6. She's not doing the "preach to the choir" rally business.

Her methods and tactics are more personal. She doesn't give speeches AT people, she meets them and answers their questions, in smaller settings. She's not a MESSIAH type.

We'll see whose techniques work best on Tuesday.

[Big Blue Marble]

20. Yeh, we know about her tactics,

At least we know about some of her tactics.:grr:

[MADem]

37. Now, you be sure NOT to vote for her, since you don't like her.

That will make you feel better, I'm sure!

:hi:

[Big Blue Marble]

47. You got that right.

I'm not voting for her, ever.

[BeyondGeography]

24. Tuesday's results won't be a verdict on tactics

One candidate is still introducing himself to people, the other is a household brand name.

[MADem]

36. WOW, didn't take long for that "talking point" to get rolled out!!!!!

Anyone who doesn't know who Barack Obama is, is living in a fucking CAVE!! All they have to do is turn on MSGOP, the All Obama, All The Time Network if they aren't sure....or turn on any of the morning shows!

:rofl:

Our candidate is still INTRODUCING HIMSELF???

Hell, he'll be an old man before we're acquainted with him, at this pace!!!!

[BeyondGeography]

38. Don't be an ass

And, by the way, he'll have a great day on Tuesday anyway.

[MADem]

43. I'm not being "an ass." I've read that same "lowered expectations" talking point three times today

already.

:hi:

[BeyondGeography]

53. Don't get me wrong, we're grateful for the 750,000 MSNBC viewers nationwide

==When the presidential horse race heated up dramatically in January, both MSNBC and CNN, which also touts its on-air army of political experts, chalked up near-record primetime increases. CNN soared by 42% in total viewers, and MSNBC rocketed by 37%. Fox News was up by only 9%, but it has nothing to worry about: At an average of 1.76 million viewers, it wound up with 35% more primetime viewers in January than second-place CNN (1.15 million). Further down in the pecking order was MSNBC and its average of 744,000.==

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117980025.html?categoryid=1019&cs=1&nid=2562

but it will take more than that to get Obama in front of the American people, often for the first time.

[MADem]

55. Well, FAUXSNOOZE has given him heavy play, and they have PLENTY of viewers.

Heck, Murdoch's paper even ENDORSED the guy.

That 'introducing' theme is lame, though. Sorry, it is.

[BeyondGeography]

64. Now we're up to 3 million people nationwide

:thumbsup:

This started out with your point about tactics. It's hard to think of two candidates with a more different set of challenges than Clinton and Obama. No surprise then that she's out there filling in the blanks and he's dealing with a two-part scenario: this is who I am and this is what I'll do.

[libertee]

7. Because Hillary supporters know-"they will come" so it's no big deal...

Her popularity is much more stable...His is on momentum now..check back in about 3 months

[Divine Discontent]

8. she's much more the candidate of the older crowd

as a majority, that's why she's winning, and will win on S.T. by a pretty noticeable margin. Obama's a very energetic and gifted speaker that inspires something in EVERYONE esp. the youth crowd, but maybe in 4-8 years he can run again.

I really think Hill's got it sewed up.

[Big Blue Marble]

25. I look at his crowds.

I see faces of all ages. About the sewn up thing. She maybe ahead, but it is far from being sewn up.

[politicasista]

26. I agree n/t

[Divine Discontent]

59. I made it clear that he's not just inspiring young

but it's not being honest if we don't point out his strength is with the under 35 crowd. I wish him well, but I don't see him getting the nomination. It may be probable that he would fare better, but I think Clinton can eke out a victory against any of them. Sad to say that, because if John was still in this officially and had the support, he would clean up against any GOP and all DEMS readily admit knowing this, but we all have faves, and for that reason, and the media largely ignoring him, we are to choose between the first part African-American male, and the first female DEM nominee.

[Didereaux]

9. She does best in one-on-one small groups...real person vs rock star n/m

[1corona4u]

12. Oh, bullshit.

What a stupid statement. People know Hillary. Maybe they don't need to go to an 'American Idol Show' to 'get to see' their other option. :eyes:

[HughMoran]

13. Because the spin has worked even on DU

She's an evil persona no grata don't ya know?

[jillan]

15. Because all the articles I read about her are in-depth as what she said at the rallies.

Maybe the writers have more important things to report.

[FrenchieCat]

18. I don't know!

Cause the ones voting for her, have had their head stuck in the sand since 1998? :shrug:

Obama Rally today in Minnesota:

[cboy4]

22. Lots of empty seats in the upper level!

What happened Frenchie?

[elizm]

28. Yeah, only 20,000 is SUCH a dismal turnout. nt

[Big Blue Marble]

27. That is a beautiful picture. n/t

[1corona4u]

34. Man, you're a pretty smug....

....someone needs to knock you right the fuck off of that high horse, and Obama too.

[FrenchieCat]

40. Whoa.....Your a mean ass MF!

You must be really old AND oogly!

[1corona4u]

42. Hardly....

I'm just sick of the fucking arrogance from the Obama supporters. If this is the mentality that Obama brings to this country, I want NO part of it. EVER.

[sniffa]

62. Who is it?

:shrug:

[K Gardner]

48. Holy tons of people, batman ! Nice pic :-)

[aquart]

19. Because they don't have endless free time?

Because they're old enough to know that gathering in large groups doesn't necessarily have any meaning except the ability to gather in large groups?

As for inspiring "the masses..." I don't really want to be part of a group that thinks of other people as "the masses."

But that's just me. You go herd now, you hear?

[rox63]

32. So you never attend political speeches or events? n/t

[aquart]

45. Speeches?

I have attended demonstrations where the point was to show strong numbers. So I attend for the purpose of being one of those numbers.

Hard to avoid speeches at those things. But I make the effort.

[BenDavid]

31. Well hell that is such bs....Obama has drawn big crowds but

what happened in New Hampshire? What happened in Nevada? What's going to happen next Tuesday? I hope Obama gets beat and beat bad......

Oh and I find it incredible that Hillary received 164,000 votes more than McCain without even trying, and Romey by 260,000 and these two campaigned hard in Florida, and Florida dems knew their vote would not count but they still came out anyway and supported HRC and rewarded her with more votes.HRC outpaced Obama by 288,000 and you obama folks say "means nothing!"

Yet when Obama wins SC with over 50% of the vote being African American the praise is heaped upon him like it was the greatest accomplishment ever.Now you are trying to associate huge crowds with winning. Last time I recall that happened Bush had Mission Accomplished pastered behind him....

[Evergreen Emerald]

41. Exactly!

[Divine Discontent]

61. oh Ben

don't let em get to ya. The irrational taunts by Obama camp DU are sometimes ridiculous. So what the hell you and I just get a nice bud light and smile at her ending the nomination process on Tuesday? We need to have our race over about the time the repubs have theirs done too, and I think McCain most likely will beat out Romney in the winner take all states and end their process.

[jillan]

33. Does this help ---------->

[agdlp]

35. Using the same argument as the military in Iraq: fewer US soliders killed, more enemies killed.

But we all know that the surge is not working...well..McCain would disagree...

[jackson_dem]

39. Obama is drawing much larger crowds than Hillary

Does she inspire the masses, though? Apparently. She won New Hampshire, Nevada, and won Florida by 300,000 votes.

[agdlp]

51. and are leading with 5.04 MILLION/5.75 MILLION/7.056 MILLION /7.2 MILLION votes nationwide

A little primer in math...percent means PARTS PER HUNDRED. I’m using 2004 numbers of registered democrats, and the number today are much higher. Given this fact, she is leading with an even higher amount of votes.

In 2004 there were 72 million registered Democratic voters. There are at least that number today. If only democrats should be voting, and using latest Rasmussen poll results, that shows Clinton leading by 8 %, the result will give 5,75 million more votes to Hillary Clinton.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

If using foxnews latest poll, she leads by 10 %, that is 7,2 million votes

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/020108_election_release_web.pdf

If using Gallup numbers, she is leading by 7 %, thats 5,04 million votes

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104107/Gallup-Daily-Tracking-Election-2008.aspx

If using rcp.com numbers, she is leading by 9,8 %, thats 7,056 million votes

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national-primary

[emilyg]

50. We are confident and don't have to brag.

[Reciprocity]

52. Maybe Obama supporters have got to be inspired to vote.

I have read threads that say his supporters will not vote in the GE if he is not the nominee.

While us Hillary supporters have to know where she stands on the issues. And if she doesn't win, we will vote for him if he is the nominee.


I guess it's an age and income thing. If I was well off, or didn't have so much of life's baggage, it would not be so important to me on where he stands on healthcare, the economy, the price of energy, groceries extra. I could just bask in the glow of an inspiring speech maker.

[zulchzulu]

54. I think her venues are much more controlled in size and capacity

:rofl:

I'm kidding. She just doesn't inspire a lot of people. It's pretty obvious.

[Straight Shooter]

56. Because her supporters aren't looking for a "BAM" type of moment.

And a lot of us, the ones that Barack supporters seem to think are ignorant backwards dumbfucks, hold two jobs.

I wouldn't be surprised to see someone trampled to death at a Barack rally, as the mob rushes forward in a frenzy to be close to the Lord Barack.

[Jillian]

57. The only crowds that matter are the ones that show up on Tuesday.

[SammyWinstonJack]

60. ...

:thumbsup:

[paulk]

58. yeah, Obama's pretty popular

A whole bunch of kids from my niece's school cut class just to go to the rally in Denver.

Too bad they're not old enough to vote.

[Divine Discontent]

63. yeah, they're inspired by his youth I believe

when you're under 18 you get tired of seeing 60 and up guys running everything. now, that's not to say those 60 and up guys aren't extremely qualified, but the youth still feel that they're not in touch with the world as they see it.