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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:43 PM
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I just don't see how John McCain can win as the War candidate
I don't care what the polls say now. Both Obama and Hillary will beat him. It's over for McCain.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:45 PM
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1. I tend to agree, but I expect the "Straight Talk" to take a hard left
for the general. He'll still be pro-war, but it'll be softened.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:48 PM
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2. He won't. And Big Money knows he won't.
Everyone knows the Democrats are winning this election except, it seems, the Democrats.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:50 PM
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3. His recent comments on the war in Iraq are good fodder for
our Dem. campaign.

Also, just the visual of a one on one debate with him vs Clinton or Obama will be enough for the Republicans to lose, imo.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:55 PM
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4. I agree - except in the event of another attack on the US where everyone's mind goes out the window
which I hope never happens.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:59 PM
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5. He can't. Obama: 'If you want war then McCain's
your man.' 60% opposed to war. End of a very simple campaign.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:00 PM
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6. Gravel, DK and Edwards would beat him too. Been saying this for ages now.
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:34 PM
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7. Given the choice between
someone who's committed to the war, and someone who's not outright anti-war bring them home now, there's a good chance that Americans will choose the one who's committed to the war.

McCain's going to be hard to beat if he's the nominee.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:36 PM
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8. He aligned himself up with Bush. That will come back t haunt him
The American people will be looking for someone very different from Bush.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:41 PM
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9. McCain would beat Hillary but not Obama...
Hillary's sky-high negatives (right out the gate) will hurt her with independents, and her pro-war stances will undercut her support with true progressives.

Obama would unite the base, bring out young voters, and energize the African-American community like no candidate in history. I could see a possible landslide, especially since the hard-core right wing freaks aren't very jazzed about McCain (but would come out of hiding to vote against Hillary).

Bottom line, Obama is simply a LIKEABLE person. Hillary not so much. Don't ever underestimate the significance of that.
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