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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:07 PM
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Last time I checked, NO-ONE got a job based on "Hope" and "Change"!
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 08:15 PM by demo dutch
not in the real world anyway!
Sorry, to become President of the United States, Best qualification win! Period

No contempt for Obama supporters but...!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:09 PM
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1. "Despair" and "Status Quo" don't produce a lot of jobs, either.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:10 PM
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2. Despair and status quo, you must be speaking of the republicans!
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 08:10 PM by demo dutch
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:17 PM
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32. Talking about yourself again, are you?
Just joking, but your OP has touched a nerve - on people who do know a lot more than you.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:10 PM
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3. Corporate Whoredom Is Always Hiring, Though
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:11 PM
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5. no, actually they're outsourcing
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:11 PM
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7. Please Obama is as corporate as Hillary. Now if you're talking about Kucinich
I agree.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:15 PM
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24. I don't deny it. I'm for Edwards, Still
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:14 PM
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20. Nor do $ 25 Billion Hand Outs to Big Oil.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:11 PM
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4. They need to change their hope then
Or something like that...
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:11 PM
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6. Can "corruption" get you a job?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:11 PM
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8. Obamababies?
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:13 PM
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15. I hate the name-calling, too. It's juvenile.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:14 PM
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19. Not to mention rude. nt
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:16 PM
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28. Fair enough I'll take that out!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:11 PM
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9. Since Senator Obama has a full, clearly supported statement of policies
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 08:12 PM by alcibiades_mystery
That's neither here nor there.

Unless you're parroting the platitude that Obama speaks in nothing but platitudes?
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:16 PM
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27. He also has a voting record
And a $ 25 Billion hand out to Big Oil he voted "YES" on.

All at our expense.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00213


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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:28 PM
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57. So you agree that the OP's nonsense about hope and change is irrelevant
Good on ya.

I'm glad some of you guys are starting to recognize that the platitude charge is itself a platitude.

:thumbsup:
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:12 PM
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10. You never applied for a job and hoped for hope and change?
Sorry, FU, period, big period.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:13 PM
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13. Sure but I made sure I had the qualifications!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:17 PM
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30. You certainly don't.

Your OP is so far detached from reality; we have schools selling "learning" for $40,000 - for jobs that pay $30,000.. and those jobs are going overseas.

People with Masters' degrees are losing jobs for overseas.

In fields Americans were told to take interest in.

And Americans have noticed.

If people with degrees get fired and are unable to find replacement work, or people going to school to use their talents are socking in tens of thousands for piss payin' jobs that are going overseas anyway...

"FU" is too right.

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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:25 PM
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43. Hillary was not my first choice, but I'm picking experience over "hope"
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 08:26 PM by demo dutch
and in answering your complaint, I don't Obama will make any difference.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:27 PM
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46. experience? I think more like baggage n/t
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:29 PM
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51. You're entitled to your opinion and I have mine.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:12 PM
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Who Is "NOONE"?
Maybe you mean Noonen?
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:12 PM
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11. Personally I'm STANDING FOR CHANGE!
BELIEVE IN HOPE...

YES WE CAN!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:12 PM
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12. Trusting George Bush = disqualification.
We have some lovely parting gifts.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:14 PM
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18. *bing*
you are correct sir!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:28 PM
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ding ding ding - you're a winner
exactly right - anyone knew after seeing how Bush was falsely installed
into the pResidency that he couldn't be trusted.

I don't think Hillary trusted Bush per se, I think she knew exactly what she was doing
when she voted for the war on Iraq which has caused a million deaths of innocents
and which has displaced millions of Iraqis.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:13 PM
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14. Obama babies???
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 08:13 PM by Big Blue Marble
How is that not insulting?

Did you ever go to a job interview without hope that you could get the job?

Did you ever go to a job interview without tell them how you could change the place for the better?

Hope for improvement in our lives gets us up every morning. Hope for improvement in our lives and the lives
of our children is what keeps going. And when we are down, what gets us started again. Hope.

Life is driven by Hope.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:15 PM
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21. Ok I'll take that out. But I made sure I had the qualifications
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:18 PM
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33. Thanks n/t
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:15 PM
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22. self delete
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 08:15 PM by demo dutch
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:15 PM
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self delete
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 08:16 PM by demo dutch
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:14 PM
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16. okay, you're right
i don't want to hope for something better. i'll just blindly except whatever the future the washington politics chooses for me.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:14 PM
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17. Wow, Obama must be kicking serious ass...
...because the HillShills are getting DESPERATE for post material.

And BTW, posts like this do nothing to sway undecided/uncommitted voters.

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:17 PM
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29. And that's one to grow on
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:20 PM
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38. Tootie!!!!
OMG, I used to have a crush on her! :D
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:22 PM
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40. And I used to have a crush on Jo
Nancy McKeon is a babe. :loveya:

Blair sucks. Fuck her.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:25 PM
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44. Jo was also the hotness
And Blair was a stuck up biatch.

She's also a rabid right-winger IRL.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:28 PM
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49. What about Natalie? She never gets any love
The happy magic marker of the show. :sigh:

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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:31 PM
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52. She was on my list, too
She got hotter as she got older, IMHO, while Blair just got more annoying (and more high maintenance). If I remember, she was always getting into some weird stuff (like much weirder than what you'd expect a slightly chubby homely girl to get into...)
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:22 PM
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62. I'm getting this clear mental picture of Obama standing on a stage
addressing a crowd of thousands by reciting the lyrics to the theme song in that grand oratory style of his:

Look.

When the world doesn't seem.

To be living up to your dreams. then suddenly you realize

the Facts of Life are all about you.

Yes we can!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:15 PM
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23. Yeah, usually people get jobs based on being the wife of someone who
did it before.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:17 PM
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31. Not in my world!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:18 PM
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35. And wha planet is that, do tell?
Mars?

Jupiter?

Uranus?

Skaro?

It clearly isn't Earth...
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:19 PM
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ummm Last time I checked it was earth!
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:15 PM
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25. Oh sure they do
Enough hope, and you generate confidence. With confidence, business and individuals invest in the future and expand.

And change, well that's sort of self-explanatory, but yeah, it usually means new jobs.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:15 PM
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26. What a brilliant thread by you
Again, you've met my expectations for you. :thumbsup:
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:18 PM
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34. Thanks Sniffa, we have to stop meeting like this!
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 08:19 PM by demo dutch
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:21 PM
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39. Well, if you stopped posting these kinds of threads
Then we would. :thumbsup:
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:27 PM
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47. I just can't help it !
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:29 PM
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50. Apparently so
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:19 PM
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36. no one gets a job with out hope and change-
- empty- useless- rhetoric.

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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:23 PM
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41. Really? Think about it. If every candidate had to fill out a job application I'm
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 08:23 PM by demo dutch
sure it would be an eye openener for the entire country on who to vote for. (and that does not just pertain to these two candidates, because Hillary was not my first choice!)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:20 PM
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37. Best qualifications? As in their written record of accomplishments vs their flip-flops?
Or how good they lie in front of people -- after all, this IS politics.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:23 PM
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42. You're 100% wrong about that.
People change jobs because of their hopes and dreams, so I disagree.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:28 PM
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48. but they'll screw up or get fired without the necessary experience
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:31 PM
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53. They won't get hired without the necessary experience.
They'll get fired for not working hard or screwing up. A person that busts their ass (and/or is ambitious), and screws up once in a while is invaluable.
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:26 PM
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45. Well...perhaps Pandora did...
:)
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:31 PM
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54. No contempt for Obama supporters?
Then wtf did you start this asinine thread for?
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:31 PM
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55. I strongly disagree
Those are two of the qualities I look for when hiring. I want to know how the candidate accepts change and what inspired them to apply for the position. A lot of people might be qualified to fill a post. What sets them apart is the stuff you don't see on the resume.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:47 PM
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56. NO-ONE got a job based on "Hope" and "Change
I hate to be contrary like this but - every politician who runs and wins against an incumbent or in a primary does exactly that.

It is a shame that things aren't otherwise, though. "Best qualification win!" would be a great step forward.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:32 PM
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58. Yes, none of that hope malarky and plenty more status quo, tried and tested.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:33 PM
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59. Last time I checked, no one got a job using their spouse's resume
either.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:00 PM
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60. You must not read many resumes
"optimistic, cheerful, upbeat, etc"

"think outside the box"
"self starter"
"upbeat"
"takes initiative"
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:08 PM
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61. see sig
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