Hillary gets desperate, likens Obama to Bush

[ProSense]

Clinton: Obama would be Bush-like 'leap of faith'

TUCSON, Arizona (AFP) - Hillary Clinton Saturday likened her Democratic White House rival Barack Obama to President George W. Bush, arguing he was an untested neophyte who would be a "leap of faith" for voters.

"We cannot afford to elect someone as we did with George Bush and then be somewhat surprised by the decisions that are made, the direction that he leads the country," the New York senator told reporters aboard her campaign plane.

"And the best way to avoid that is to have a candidate who tells you what she will do and then is held accountable for doing it once she's in office," she said, arguing that Obama had been too vague on policy.

The former first lady has previously described her Illinois senate colleague as a charismatic politician -- but stressed that voters had regretted their decision to vote for Bush because of his own charm and likability.

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Hillary "has always had a good personal relationship with the president"

Who ?

[Zynx]

1. Hey, he made a Bush comparison as well.

He accused her of being another W back a few weeks ago.

[neutron]

22. Clinton is Right

Obama is a little smarter, but he's a mediocrity

[Bread and Circus]

Hillary Clinton on IWR: "I take George Bush at his word"

:rofl:

[BringBigDogBack]

27. Bam

[BostonMa]

2. She's right.

[Bluebear]

3. Obama called her "Bush light". It's not "desperate" when your candidate does it, though, is it?

[Tom Strong]

6. Maximum pwnage! n/t

[Zueda]

10. Bush Light? He said no names....

What makes you think he was referring to Clinton?

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[Bluebear]

13. CNN: 'Obama calls Hillary Clinton "Bush-Cheney" light.' I guess that's what made me think of it.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton sharply dismissed Thursday a recent suggestion from chief rival Barack Obama that she is “Bush-Cheney light,” telling CNN the comparison is “silly.”

“You know, I have been called a lot of things in my life, but I have never been called George Bush or Dick Cheney certainly,” Clinton told CNN’s John King.

“You know you have to ask whatever has happened to the politics of hope,” Clinton added, in reference to the Illinois Democrat's familiar campaign theme.



http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/07/27/clinton-calls-bush-cheney-comparison-silly/

[splat]

4. Why do you think her competing hard is "desperate"?

[ProSense]

8. Hillary is not only being a huge hypocrite on this issue, but also she appears charmed by Bush. n/t

[LVjinx]

19. Charmed?

Like when she called him "pathetic" just 2 debates ago? Just checking.

[ProSense]

21. Here:

"He is someone who has a lot of charm and charisma, and I think in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, I was very grateful to him for his support for New York," Clinton said Tuesday night during a talk at the National Archives about her life in politics.

Clinton, a potential presidential candidate in 2008, said that despite their "many disagreements about many, many issues," she has always had a good personal relationship with the president.

"He's been very willing to talk. He's been affable. He's been good company," said Clinton, D-N.Y.

Charming, good company and supportive!

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. you are too funny. Double standard. When Obama does it

he is the greatest. When Clinton does it--you post in giant blue underlined letters "How dare she be so negative as to compare him to bush."

Double standard.

[Yossariant]

7. You're either with us or you're with the terrorists --- Barack -like

Good analogy, in fact.

[Colobo]

9. Obama > Clinton

[BootinUp]

11. I approve this message

I will say that he was better on the issues in the last debate than I have seen before. But does he cover issues with any detail in his stump speeches enough? That is what I wonder.

[loveangelc]

14. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuIVnj0mIPI

[1corona4u]

15. Yeah, so, he does require a leap of faith.

Sorry if you don't see it.

[GoldieAZ49]

16. Yes We Can!

Illinois has not regretted Obama in the state senate or as senator representing IL

Hillary will say anything and do anything for power, she is fighting and us against them battle that this country is weary of.

This is why the shift of power in the 2006 election in the congress.

I want to live in the United States of America, with Obama, yes we can!

[NJObamaWoman]

17. WTF Many of us weren't surprised by Bush nor did we take that

leap of faith. We knew Bush track rating from the get go. He's a failed CEO. He sucks plain and simple. Just because Obama doesn't have tons of experience that doesn't mean he should be put in the same category as Bush. Bush track recorded before running equals failure. We knew this or most ignored it. Obama = Success and for the American people.

[NJSecularist]

18. Getting desperate? She's been desperate this entire campaign

Hence her campaign's willingess to bring up the race card at every opportunity.

[LVjinx]

20. Race card

Has it been her campaign that played it? Was her campaign the one that announced New Hampshire voters didn't vote for Obama, despite saying they would, because he was black? Was it her campaign that made a big deal out of the factual comment that only a president could have signed the Civil Rights act? Was it Hillary's campaign that turned "fairy tale" somehow into a slam against black people, in defiance of all common sense or any objective reality? That kind of race card? Or, how about Obama supporters who, when Bill Clinton was answering a question about the history of primaries in SC, pulled out a sentence about Jesse Jackson and posted "Obama just like Jesse Jackson"? That kind of race card playing?

[Cha]

23. When the clintons saw Obama's numbers

going up in Iowa they turned desperate and went dirty..not much of a stretch, evidently.

hilary doesn't have what it takes so she uses her fearwagging monologue.

[calmblueocean]

24. I'm an Obama supporter who is glad Hillary is finally saying this.

Obama really has been given the kid gloves treatment, both by the media and even by Hillary herself.

Don't get me wrong, Hillary has said some slimy things. She's misrepesented his words and record gleefully and blantantly.

But she hasn't thrown out the hard attacks that the Repubs are going to throw out in the GE. This is the big one, and Obama better have some damn fine responses to it. If he doesn't, then he doesn't deserve to be the nominee.

[krkaufman]

25. Wow. Accusing Obama of being "like" Bush... by explicitly campaigning as Bush.

Hillary sounds like Bush and Cheney; a repeat of her campaign's previous "roll of the dice" comments. Very sad.

Thing is... there *is* no randomness in what we'll get from a second Clinton administration. Triangulation at the expense of the working family, and political expedience over what's right for the country.

Hillary voted for the Iraq war, and just supported the Iran fear-mongering resolution. I'll take a chance, in the hopes that we don't get someone who's demonstrated their cravenness.

[LadyVT]

26. Obama struck on Bush first

Here is what Obama falsely said earlier today, from hillaryhub.com:

"During an economic summit this afternoon, Sen. Obama compared Hillary to George Bush and falsely claimed that she didn’t provide tax relief in her stimulus proposal:

'A few weeks ago I offered an economic stimulus package based on a simple principle: Get immediate relief into the hands of people who need it the most and will spend it the quickest. I propose sending each working family a $500 tax cut, each senior a $250 supplement to their social security check. And if the economy gets worse, we should double those amounts. Now neither George Bush nor Hillary Clinton have that kind of immediate relief in the original stimulus proposals.'

This is false. Hillary’s tax relief plan, which she introduced before Sen. Obama’s, has always included $40 billion in contingent tax rebates.

Hillary was also one of the first candidates to speak out against President Bush's economic stimulus proposal for not providing the relief to working and middle-class families."

So if you're going to get upset about how unfair it is to compare a candidate to Bush, consider your own candidate's actions.

[AGirl]

28. I totally agree with her.

The point is that people shouldn't vote based on taking a leap of faith, like many did with George Bush.

They shouldn’t vote based on if someone is charismatic or not, if they sound good or not.

[cooolandrew]

29. Hillary is always fair an balanced; as positive and as gracious as I can be on that.

[geiger]

30. there is another post on this, but I will say it again, she is desperate

to turn the tables on Obama, in her insidious way. She helped start the fucking war; I saw her via CSPAN when she did it, actually asking Senator Byrd to give up most of his remaining time to speak against the war, and when he did, she turned over half of it to the other scumbag Biden, who spoke passionately in favor of a resolution that clearly turned over congressional perogatives to the President. It was sickening. You should have seen the look on Senator Byrd's face, who had clearly been betrayed. She is now nothing but a low-life opportunistic scoundrel in my book after watching all the ways she tries to talk down to Obama, laugh at him, and marginalize his comments and ideas. Let her smugness continue, and see where it gets her. I will speak out against her politics of marginalization every time I see it.

[bvar22]

31. Correct !........Hillary IS a "known entity".

Thats why I will hold my nose and support Obama.