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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:34 PM
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Obama Picks Up LGBT Supporters From Edwards
Obama Picks Up LGBT Supporters From Edwards
A critical mass of John Edwards’s LGBT steering committee is going public with support for Sen. Barack Obama over Sen. Hillary Clinton.

By Kerry Eleveld
An Advocate.com exclusive posted February 1, 2008

<snip>

A critical mass of John Edwards’s LGBT steering committee is going public with support for Sen. Barack Obama over Sen. Hillary Clinton. Twenty-two members of the Edwards campaign’s original 59-person gay and lesbian committee will now be working for Obama victories next Tuesday and throughout the rest of the primary season.

The new Obama converts include Eric Stern, who headed up Edwards’s LGBT steering committee, and longtime gay activist David Mixner, who famously campaigned for Bill Clinton in 1992, holding some of the first gay fund-raisers for a U.S. presidential candidate.

Mixner, a peace activist during the war in Vietnam, came out early for Edwards after the former North Carolina senator made an unequivocal case for ending the Iraq war at the historic Riverside Church in New York City.

Mixner said Obama’s clear and consistent opposition to the war is also driving his decision on this go-around. “Moving from one candidate to another is never an easy process,” he said, “but the times demand that we all participate fully and completely to bring about change. Originally, my support went to Senator Edwards because of the war in Iraq. For the very same reason, I am supporting Senator Obama. This is not even a close call for me.”

Stern, who served more generally as a political adviser to the Edwards campaign, said he met with Hillary Clinton’s director of LGBT outreach, Mark Walsh, and had several phone conversations with Tobias Wolff, the chair of Obama’s national LGBT policy committee.

“I have mentors working on the Clinton campaign,” said Stern, who is also a former director of LGBT outreach for the Democratic National Committee in California. “Their outreach was as aggressive and as sincere. It’s been a difficult choice for many of us.”

Of the remaining 37 former steering committee members, Stern said another eight were leaning Obama, three were fully committed to Clinton, and others remained undecided or had not contacted him.

Stern admitted that he had already been moving toward supporting Obama, mainly because, like Edwards, Obama has refused to take money from special interest groups. He also feels that Obama has the “purest position” of the any of the three candidates in supporting full repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act since 2004. Clinton supports repealing only the part of DOMA that prohibits the federal government from recognizing state sanctioned same-sex marriages, leaving in place the portion that allows states to ignore legal unions performed in other states.

After meeting with both Obama’s and Clinton’s LGBT leaders, “it became clear to me personally that our committee had a vision for the role of the LGBT community that was similar to the role that LGBT supporters were already playing in the Obama campaign,” said Stern. “It is a pure grassroots, activist-oriented operation,” he added, noting that the 22 committee members will now be taking part in Obama’s field operations as well as the policy and press departments. “Thus far, it's clear that we will play a similar role in the Obama campaign.”

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Link: http://advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid52017.asp

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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:40 PM
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1. Thank you
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:43 PM
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2. The 'head has spoken' you will comply
Give me a break ... this is just more king making/deal making. It's the same reason JE bowed out ... power begets more power.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:46 PM
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3. Hey... I'm Just Reportin 'Em, You Get To Decide What To Do With 'Em
:shrug:
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:54 PM
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4. The facts? Neither of them will do shit. Hillary or Obama, so
take the promises and crap that gays have been hearing and pile it in a corner.

Yes he's the one for us LGBT's.

His bus just runs over us the same as Hillary's, but Obama tells you it's out of love or staff mistake.

Where are you people that carped about the one issue "gay thing", and how elections are bigger than that. As a gay person, I do not vote on expectations of getting anything, because nothing is all we have gotten. I am voting for the experience.

Whinging about "another Clinton" presidency when you are electing a Carter.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:49 PM
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5. I Disagree...
If Obama keeps bringing in huge amounts of young people to vote, and therefore wins a mandate, it will be easier to move forward with GLBT issues than if Hillary gets elected by some thin margin.

Big changes come after landslides, otherwise, not so much.

:shrug:


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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:51 PM
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6. Huh?
Please explain your logic.

Cuz, so far as I can tell, nothing you've said will do jack $hit for GLBT issues.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:07 AM
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9. Well... First...
Do you agree that GLBT issues will be advanced if a Democrat wins the Presidency (as opposed to a Republican)? Cause if you don't, then I don't see the point.

:shrug:
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:56 AM
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10. I believe GLBT issues and other progressive issues will be advanced IF
a progressive is elected ... and, so far, it appears to me as if all the progressives have been tossed to the curb.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:59 AM
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12. Well I Agree With You There...
I went from Kucinich, to Edwards, to Obama, and if it is Clinton in the General, I will have been walked from the left, right back to the fucking center again.

:banghead:
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:17 AM
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14. With regards to GLBT issues, I think Hillary wins
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 01:17 AM by sjdnb
especially after the pandering to the Christians (McClurkin lovers) done recently by Obama ... however, she is still a DLC centrist/insider - which is not attractive to me, as a progressive. It seems a pretty narrow field of folks, with very little power/money, actually have the best interests of the majority of Americans (those not worth $1b or more) at heart.

So, fact is, I will have to vote for the lesser of two evils - all because the most progressive, enlightened, intelligent candidates never seem to make the 'cut'.

Maybe it is time for a revolution.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:29 AM
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15. I Hear Ya...
And it's just a hunch, and it may not be enough, but I think Barack got the message that he screwed up there.

My thinking, is that if he can truly turn this into a legitimate movement, with many many newly registered young and disaffected voters, we could see a landslide. And a big win tends to bring big change. It will be much easier for him to keep the promises he makes, to the GLBT Community, as well as others, with a large wind at his back.

But hell, what do I know. It's all one big roll of the dice coming up.

:shrug:

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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:40 AM
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16. And, that is the saddest fact of all ... that the majority of
hard working, honest, got yer back kind of Americans - of every race, religion, creed, or no creed, continue to get f'd over to become more and more serf-like as the uber-wealthy gain their inequitable rewards - even as some are found guilt of fraud, theft, tax evasion, and other criminal activities.

But, do they go to jail/pay back their unlawful gains? NO!

Only the lower 96% are taxed to support their greed and pay for their crimes.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:14 AM
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23. I Completely Agree !
:mad:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:59 PM
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7. That is the most significant endorsement yet, it's a clear sign of how progressive Obama is.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:00 AM
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8. As progressive as his favorite preachers are? Geez...
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:00 AM
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13. At least Obama doesn't support keeping parts of DOMA.
Hillary Clinton does, a fact which her supporters like to ignore.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:58 AM
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11. Just like the DLC this group promotes it's own agenda over
the agenda of its members .... sadly, it happens all the time in politics.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:45 AM
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17. Hillary Clinton IS the fucking DLC
The DLC has been all about advancing the Clintons and the corporate friends of the Clintons, and the best way to start cutting this cancer out of this party is to keep the Clintons and their BFF's the Bushes out of the White House for evermore.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:04 AM
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18. The DLC shoved Hillary to the curb ... many a time
because she was inconveniently outspoken on health care, etc. She was shut up by them and shut up good.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:06 AM
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19. How is 22 out of 59 a "critical mass" of supporters? n/t
It's only 37%! I expect better journalism from the Advocate.
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ForRusty Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:07 AM
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20. I don't understand personally how gay people can support either Edwards or Obama... Meh. nt
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:09 AM
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22. The Hillary meme writers have been burning the midnight oil.
It's that simple.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:07 AM
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21. Excellent. So much for "anti-gay" Obama.
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