EDWARDS SUPPORTERS - SHADES OF LEE ATWATER & DIRTY TRICKS

[kelligesq]

Dear Fellow Edwardians,

You are pretty amazing people, but who would expect less when John Edwards is
a pretty amazing man.

Apparently our loyalty has driven some on other campaigns around the bend.

You will notice other threads telling you that Edwards doesnt want us to vote
for him, pretending that they were also for Edwards but now they are going to vote for so-&-so.

Don't you believe it for a minute.

There are real political operatives hanging around.

I have been informed that people are being offered payment if they can get
Edwards supporters to switch to their candidate.

THIS IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT JOHN EDWARDS IS SUGGESTING.

IN HIS OWN WORDS, IN A CONFERENCE CALL HE SAID THE FOLLOWING:




Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-30-08 04:08 PM
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Just got off a conference call w/John & Elizabeth Edwards


 Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 04:10 PM by Truth2Tell

I just hung up from a conference call with supporters of the Edwards campaign. Both John and Elizabeth spoke.

Some of my notes:

Elizabeth Edwards introduced John:

"...I felt in 2004 that we left the campaign without leaving a mark... not this time... a lot of the policies on the table are the result of John..."

John Edwards:

"We were just and righteous and correct in what we tried to do for the country..."

Decision not about money, wants to unite the Party, believes McCain has the Rep nom locked up. "My withdrawal was not money driven... had nothing at all to do with money... it was based on my belief that continued battle was not going to serve our country well... when it's a two person race someone emerges quickly... it's very clear to me that McCain is the Republican nominee..."

"...I wish you could understand how hard this is inside of me..."

Poverty will be the issue on which Edwards will continue to push for concessions. "I have not endorsed anyone... I pressed them (Obama and Clinton in conversation in the last few days) on details of what they would do about poverty... we have very detailed commitments from both of them... both of them have given me their word to do certain things if elected, at the convention... "

No endorsement before Tuesday. "I will be meeting with each of them... there is no chance it will happen (any endorsement) before Tuesday, or even after.. "

Take a breather and don't make any support decision yet. "I'm counseling you all to keep your powder dry... to take time, take a deep breath, don't be in a hurry ..."

"It's impossible to know what tomorrow holds..."


Saracat adds:

61. Right , In that same conference call Edwards asked we "keep our powder dry and endorse NO one" he told us to take our time, take it slow..in other words,"wait". Make of it what you will. Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 10:26 PM by saracat




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[kurth]

1. Spread this message far and wide

[thunder rising]

2. Edwards. It's all about me!! He is in the game for the politics and you have been had. 'nuff said.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. A new entry to my "ignore" list.

Buh bye.

[kelligesq]

7. Appears to be a reading comprehension problem

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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. I will caucus as "undecided" next Tuesday,

since there's no way to vote for someone who isn't on the ballot as an active candidate. But undecided is good -- it means Edwards supporters have leverage with the other candidates at the district and state conventions.

[kelligesq]

5. Edwards is on all 24 ballots taking place on Super Tuesday Feb 5

[kelligesq]

11. Hi Ocelot, do you have the time to explain how undecided in caucus works ? we dont have caucus

in our state

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. You show up and cast a vote for your presidential preference.

You can vote for candidates, or vote uncommitted; we don't have "walking caucuses" like Iowa does any more at the precinct caucus level. Your candidate preference vote determines a candidate's delegates to the DNC.

[kelligesq]

16. Are the votes out in the open or on paper ballots ?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

17. Paper (anonymous).

They just announce the number of votes for each candidate; who voted for whom is not public.

[cali]

6. you have gone off the deep end.

Completely around the bend. Most people here want Edwards supporters to do what they want with their vote. Some would like you to vote for their candidate, others like me, don't give a flying fuck what you do. But the absurd calculation that people here are practicing Atwater style dirty tricks, is proof positive that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

The bottom line is that JE quit. There's no fucking conspiracy. He quit.

So vote for him or not. But your hysterics are pathetic.

[kelligesq]

8. I'll pass your unpleasant message along to the lawyer who advised of "pay to turn em"

[robinlynne]

49. noone can get paid per vote, because you would have to know how each person voted.

I don't think a lawyer said anything. That's pretty stupid, and lawyers actually go to college.

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[kelligesq]

102. Another piece of disinformation RL ?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. I'm not assuming any such thing. Just waiting to see which of the remaining two

take up some of Edwards' issues. I don't think there's a conspiracy and I accept that he's out.

[peacetalksforall]

13. Tell me who you're voting for so I can vote for the opposite person.

You sure don't care about finessing the Edwards people. Guess we can say you don't give a .. if you do or not.

Don't want to give us transition time? I think you might facilitate some decisions here. Since it's not super easy to jump on the wagon for either, it kind of makes the decision easier. Hold 'em.

[cali]

29. I have nothing but bemused contempt for people who decide whom

to vote for, based on the comments of anonymous posters on a message board. You're right. I don't give a flip who the Edwardians here vote for.

[kelligesq]

30. we've already heard your opinion - no need to continue repeating

:thumbsdown:

no one was interested in the first time

[bvar22]

33. If you really "don't give a flip"......

then why are you spamming this thread? :shrug:

Seems like you would find something better to do.....if you really "don't give a flip".

[mrbluto]

37. You protest too much.

So much it belies your assertion of not caring.

[JDPriestly]

72. You seem to take the allegations that Hillary and Obama operatives

are posting to Edwards supporters here very personally. Wonder why?

[peacetalksforall]

92. I didn't say that you don't care who we vote for, I said you don't care

about former Edwards supporters. In kind of a non-win-over way.

[in_cog_ni_to]

40. She supports Obama, of course. ..

:eyes:

[foxer]

55. but not very well

[HughMoran]

70. It makes me sad

I feel as though some people can't accept that Edwards isn't going to make it this time. It comes across as cultish and kinda spooky if you ask me (which nobody did - but like you, I feel like I had to comment.)

[JDPriestly]

73. I'm sticking with Edwards because I don't like either of the other two.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

96. I find Obama uses a great deal of platitudes and double speak...

I have noticed, Obama supporters believe the corporate owned, dis-empowering, talking heads .
They shun anyone who questions any of Obama's positions (or lack,there of)...
They seem to have unconditional devotion to Obama, and that's what's, scary...

I'm also sticking with Edwards because I don't trust either of the other two.
I Ask the Question--
Will the only Constitutional scholar in the race take a stand on retroactive immunity for the telecoms?http://www.correntewire.com/will_the_only_constitutional_scholar_in_the_race_take_a_stand_on_retroactive_immunity_for_the_telcos

If he doesn't take a real stand on this then what will he take a stand on?

Also,We have absolutely no evidence Obama would have voted,
let alone vote NO to WAR with Iraq!

When Obama actually did have a chance to vote NO to WAR--
he and another candidate (McCain) played it politically safe--
and didn't show up!
Mike Gravel Exposes Clinton & Obama on Iran- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3gQfz8GC0o

Obama mentioning Reagan the way he did, had a tremendous impact, and NOT in a good way.
Did Obama know he was using double speak that really amounted to dis-empowering Democrats...the excesses of The 60's and 70's!!!
WHAT???--That's the era of civil rights!
"In the very name of supposedly empowering the people, Barack Obama and many of his supporters are actually about the business of disempowering people," http://www.blackcommentator.com/259/259_keeping_it_real_obama_double_speak.html

The True Legacy of Ronald Reagan;
Look at the Closed Minds and Hard Hearts of the Conservatives who Staff the Bush Administration
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0608-04.htm

[kelligesq]

98. Good info, thanks.

[JDPriestly]

71. Soon after Edwards suspended his campaign,

I got an e-mail at my personal e-mail address from someone I have never met in the Obama campaign asking me to vote for Obama.

[zulchzulu]

10. Nobody has to do anything in life

If you don't want to do anything and wait around for someone else to tell you what to do, that's your choice.

The rest of us move on and stay with the flow of things.

[UpInArms]

28. I suppose you are embracing the felonious five now

for their choosing the squatter on December 12 2000?

[rusty quoin]

12. Wow. Surprise me. n/t

[PsN2Wind]

15. The main difference I see between those of that support Edwards

and those supporting Clinton and Obama is that even though many of them come around gloating and in general acting like asses, we will be happy if we are wrong, and they are right that their candidate can win the GE, but if they are wrong and their candidate doesn't win the GE we'll all be sad. But we won't be gloating.

[bigbrother05]

18. I don't get to vote until March4

but I will vote for Edwards as long as I can, but Obama is looking good.
First time I wrote that

[kelligesq]

19. AP Feb 2 "Edwards Asks His Name Remain On North Dakota Ballot" - doesnt sound like

dropping out. On Feb 1st he asked Rhode Island to keep his name on the ballot and its still on the ballot of the Feb 5 Super Tuesday 24 States.

Flyers are on his site: Suspended not Ended

http://www.in-forum.com/ap/index.cfm?page=view&id=D8UICIB80

[kelligesq]

20. Kicked, any R's ?

:kick:

[kelligesq]

24. Edwards says he's working on both of them to take on our populist issues n he says wait - so

He says he's not endorsing, keep our powder dry, and that he may not even endorse
after Feb 6,I think he may come back from suspended if they dont satisfy him.

I'm sure he'll tell us , sooner if they agree, later maybe even at the convention
if they dont.

I have to say I really would like to see him to come back in full - he's the only one who would get rid of the lobbyists and the only one that hasn;t taken a dime from them.

[robinlynne]

48. wait how. There is an election in 2 days.

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[kelligesq]

105. Well if I tell you, you'll twist it around into disinformaton, obamagirl

[guruoo]

21. Sound advice from Edwards, IMO..

'In that same conference call Edwards asked we "keep our powder dry and endorse NO one" he told us to take our time, take it slow..in other words,"wait". Make of it what you will. Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 10:26 PM by saracat'

[NastyRiffraff]

22. I just got my voter information leaflet for MD in the mail

John Edwards is still on the ballot (along with Richardson, Kucinich, Biden and Dodd). The primary is February 12, and I'll be voting for John Edwards.

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[NastyRiffraff]

25. I saw that thread and posted to it.

Along with a lot of other people I pointed out that there was no backup, no link, no nothin' It seems to me that if Edwards didn't want his supporters voting for him, he'd either make it very public, or email his supporters saying so.

A "friend of a friend" indeed. Who supposedly was a part of the Edwards campaign! Yeah, John Edwards is gonna confide in a campaign worker that he doesn't want people voting for him, hoping that it will somehow be spread around. Right.

[kelligesq]

26. LOL Riffraff - thanks

:hi:

[kelligesq]

27. can you keep this kicked - so people will recognize ? thanks

:kick:

[cascadiance]

35. If Edwards REALLY wanted us to vote for someone else, don't you think he'd TELL US?

Instead of spreading it through the rumor mill? He's outspoken about so many other things, if he really wanted us to vote for someone else, he'd tell us publicly and not leave us hanging. I frankly don't trust rumors either.

I think the more of us that vote for Edwards hopefully we'll send a strong message to those trying to control our choice that we won't continue to put up with that sort of crap!

[michaz]

42. Seems to me if he wanted us to vote for him he would stay in the race!

[cascadiance]

45. Maybe someone "privately" told him that he didn't have a choice...

Just like many others might be being told privately they "don't have a choice" to start impeachment. When people like Bernie Sanders and Russ Feingold, who are the last people I'd have expected to say that we have "other priorities than pursuing impeachment", I think something's rotten in the state of Denmark ('er Washington DC).

The government and these two parties do NOT inspire much confidence in the way things are being run now.

The bottom line is that the progressives are being pushed out once again from having a real choice to affect change. I contend that is by design by the powers that be, I don't care how much they try to rationalize what is going on!

[robinlynne]

50. true. But I think Edwards would stand up and shout it out. he's just not the cowardly,

or buyable type. It always seems that when the powers that be threaten you, the best tactic is to speak to the press openly.
Still it is very strange that he stood down when he said he would stay in the race.

[cascadiance]

54. He or his wife might be "Wellstoned" if you get my drift!

Is that a risk you might take? Perhaps he's counting on many of us to still vote for him as a way of saying, "Hey look, they went ahead and voted for me anyway! What could I do?"

If he really wanted the door shut on people voting for him, he had the opportunity to make it clearer. The lack of clarity of what we should do in his mind might be there for a reason!

[robinlynne]

57. I can see them wanting to "wellstone" him once nominated. I dont think he

endorsed either of the others because they are both so centrist-right. I don't know. If they threatened him, I would imagine saying so publicly would be the safest thing to do.
But something made him want to quit. That's for sure.

[cascadiance]

59. I think they fear more his liklihood of creating a brokered convention...

... than himself being nominated. When many of us here were seeing that it was a very clear strategy and very likely if he could get 20% or so of the remaining delegates, it would likely put the convention in a state that the corporatocracy couldn't control things the way they wanted.

And if Edwards got through Super Tuesday with enough votes, when it was over, a brokered convention could be very likely then.

I'm not saying that either of the other two campaigns "threatened him". It's just like someone saying that Hillary didn't mess with the New Hampshire voting machines. It likely is another entity with a vested interest in one of these two winning (aka corporate entities of some sort).

[robinlynne]

61. I don't think Hillary messed with NH machines. I think the republicans did, or as you say

a corporate interest. (ugh a Dem corporate interest is even worse to consider.)

Here's the thing. I think it is a great strategy to vote JE so that he would ahve leverage during the convention, but it would work a hell of a lot better if he stayed in the race, no?

[cascadiance]

63. Which is why I think some entity thought it worthwhile to threaten him NOW...

... to get him to pull out and reduce that possibility from happening, counting on many of us to not vote for him even though he's still on the ballot.

If they waited until after Super Tuesday, they wouldn't have been able to nip it in the bud with a simple threat to him. It would need a lot more work to keep that from happening.

I have course no inside information that he was threatened or anything like that, but it sure smells odd, when right up to the day he dropped out he seemed to have driving a brokered convention or better as a strategy.

[kelligesq]

79. Really RobinLynne-Then why were you trying to convince peopele to switch to Obama?

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[robinlynne]

88. I don't believe we were speaking with you.

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[kelligesq]

103. ROBINLYNNE, ITS NOT NICE TO DECIEVE EDWARDS VOTERS. kindly go back to your Obama friends

[kelligesq]

78. Robin Lynne you dont give up trying to spread seeds of doubt.NOT VOTING OBAMA-GET IT

[robinlynne]

84. I dont care who or what you vote for, nor have I any interest in what you think.

sorry.

[MrsBrady]

90. i know, creepy...insn't it. n/t

[robinlynne]

47. exactly. And why on earth isn't he staying in?

[cascadiance]

56. That's what we aren't hearing, and I think in a better world would be a lot clearer!

Something rotten's going on behind the scenes.

At this point, I'm leaning more towards voting against this smelly system and voting for him, rather than trying to strategically vote for who i distrust less in the primary.

[robinlynne]

62. Do you think it is something rotten of the DLC persuasion?

[cascadiance]

65. Maybe, though in my book the corporatists in the Rethug party or the DLC aren't much different!

... in their higher priority interests.

And if it were done this way, this would probably be done in a style that anyone connected to political campaigns right now wouldn't be connected at all to this effort.

I don't think at this point, without knowing anything more than just being suspicious of what happened with him pulling out, I don't think its too useful to speculate just yet who might have done it. The first priority is to try and ascertain more clearly why Edwards pulled out when he did. I think that it was done this close to Super Tuesday is no coincidence. If they'd done it earlier, there would have been a bigger chance that one of us might have figured it out before Super Tuesday and affected the results then, kind of like the current chief justice of the FISA Court. Kolleen Kollar-Kotelly, threw out the big anti-trust case against Microsoft the Friday before the midterm election and not long after she was nominated for this court.

[kelligesq]

81. ROBIN LYNNE HAS ANNOUNCED ON ANOTHER THREAD SHES FOR OBAMA, please dont feed the barracudas

:thumbsdown:

[robinlynne]

89. how old are you?

[kelligesq]

104. OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHO N WHAT YOU ARE

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

58. ding ding ding

you got it exactly right.

Either he's running or not running, my vote is too precious.

If he was in the race, I would say more power to you, myself I have preferred Edwards and Obama,
finding it difficult to pick.

I cannot support Hillary because of her DLC membership, with the DLC being wholeheartedly
and strongly in favor of the war on Iraq.

Oh, and the DLC is anti populist.

[robinlynne]

46. Then why the hell did he quit? We were gathering numbers, more and more.

Not from a friend of a friend, you made that up. Anyone with any real connection to Edwards knows one of his people, all of whom were on that call. He said the reason he was leaving was because of the republicans rallying around McCain after Florida.

I suggest Obama, becuase Hillary is worse. Progressive Democrats just endorsed him with sadness. We voted. Almost half of us wanted to endorse noone. Over half endorsed Obama. All are Edwards voters, every single person. (Some were Kucinich before.)
So good luck with your craziness, but if Edwards wants us to vote for him, just get right back up there and everyone will. It is that simple. After Monday night will be too late.

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[robinlynne]

87. prove that I EVER bashed John Edwards you creep. ever, in any thread, over the past 4 years.

Read instead of talking through your nose.

[kelligesq]

31. A good morning Kick for

John Edwards

[Tennessee Gal]

32. Last night I was asked who I would vote for on Tuesday.

I proudly said that I had already voted for Edwards and was glad that I had.

I encourage all who can to vote their beliefs. If they have an opportunity to vote for Edwards, JUST DO IT!

[Joe Chi Minh]

34. K&R

[vanboggie]

36. Time for another Kick

:kick: Kickety kick for the candidate who would have been best for our country - John Edwards

[7horses]

38. Vote Edwards...

He is on the ballot, so vote your first choice.

[UALRBSofL]

44. I'm glad Edwards is staying on the ballots

All he said was he was postponing his campaign. I'm glad this thread was started. I hope something is mentioned on his web site indicating he is still on all the ballots. There have been a few threads referencing whether he was going to endorse anyone or not. There was a thread started a few days ago that someone said in one of Obama's stump speeches he mentioned Edwards and he said "I will" then suddenly changed it to "We will carry on his dreams of moving people out of poverty". It upset several Edwards supporters and things were posted like "He's pandering for our votes" and "He wants to give Edwards supporters the illusion he endorsed him". I'm glad someone set the record straight.

[mrbluto]

41. Glad to see someone state it flat out.

There are real political operatives hanging around.

Glad to see someone state it flat out.

It's been obvious to me that there are insincere monkey-wrenchers in these forums.

But there seems to be no mechanism to deal with sabotage on this site.

Here's my suggestion (from my journal):

I wish there were a way to tag trolls.

Posted by mrbluto in General Discussion
Wed Oct 10th 2007, 09:09 AM

Simply that.

I say someone's a troll and they get a tag.

If they're not then my tag gets lonely and ignored by anyone but those who see it and like my style.

If they accumulate many of these then perhaps people don't need to trust me in particular to call a troll a troll.

If they have many many of these then they could be safely ignored by those looking for a discussion where they're not always arguing first causes and get down to refining their understanding and stance without worrying if they've wasted their time being gaslighted by a giggling Freeper.

The Democratic party's positions need refinement, we could all use some exercise in understanding the principles of them, earnest discussion might inadvertently stumble upon good ways to effectively state the Democratic position to people on the fence.

If I was a Freeper, or some such person, I would like nothing better that to short circuit that process and possibility.

As someone who believes in democracy, in it's essential aims, and actually used to visit DU 2-3 times a day, I see this forum (DU) is a Freeper's paradise in that regard.

So now we get to add immature campaign workers and mercenary shills into the same bin as the Freeper element.


I like the idea of not saying who we'll support for as long as possible. It'll be much like the conversational/negotiation tactic where we make them speak first. Maybe they'll be accidentally sincere and speak outside the corporate box out of sheer desperation.

We can still vote (D), but why make it easy for them to pander?

They're gonna do what they want to do, say what their handlers think will get votes - let's not dignify it unless they make credible promises of significant and testable progress.

[LizW]

43. Good enough for me!

I'm voting for Edwards Tuesday in Alabama.

[MagickMuffin]

51. John still has MY vote.............. on March 4th

Here's a :kick: to help raise awareness.

[Kermitt Gribble]

52. K&R!!!

[beachmom]

53. Offering money for a vote is a federal crime. Care to back up

your outlandish accusations?

[robinlynne]

99. Thank-you. somebody smoked something or drank some kool-aid.

[elocs]

60. For those who vote in Tuesday's primaries, how long do they wait?

As far as picking the Democratic Party's nominee, that will be the last chance they have to take part in it as far as their voting goes. My primary here in Wisconsin is on 19 February, so how much longer should I wait. I had decided to vote for Edwards not long before he pulled out, but either Obama or Clinton will be the nominee so I still have a couple of weeks if I were to decide, those who vote on Super Tuesday only have a couple of days.

[kelligesq]

91. ELOCS -Edwards is on all super tuesday ballots - you can check

with your supervisor of elections if he is on the ballot on Feb 19.

He and we do want people to vote for him in the primaries if he's on your ballot and if you can get friends and others to vote for him also.

If he is not the candidate in November I will write his name in. Some are doing that .

His campaign is "SUSPENDED NOT ENDED" and my hope is that he will come back
or switch to Independent and run on their ticket. I dont know if he will, but
it has been known to happen. :)

The more votes and delegates he gets in the February primaries, the more leverage he has to make his and our Populist issues part of the Democrati platform for election.

Even Obama admitted in a tv interview that he is calling Edwards (all the time) to ask him for his "endorsement" which Edwards will not give yet or maybe never.By endorsement he means he wants his delegates. So the more votes John gets , the more delegates he gets, the more power to make Obama or Clinton (who is also after his delegates) include his and our Populist issues.

So that's where it stands.

If you continue to vote for Edwards it won't be a wasted vote.It gives power
to our own issues, like getting the coporatists and lobbyists out of govt.,

although the obamanuts are working very hard to convince people otherwise

[MissDeeds]

64. K & R

Voting for Edwards Tuesday. This election is too important not to vote for the best possible candidate.

:kick:

[Autumn Colors]

66. I live in CT & will vote Edwards on Tues. (nm)

[troubleinwinter]

67. My vote will be cast in Arizona Tuesday, for Edwards.

[IndieLeft]

68. Edwards should endorse

If he believes that a candidate embodies his core principles then he should endorse them rather than play this politically. People's lives are affected by this. When he voted to authorize war, he know what he had done and he apologized. Here he is doing the same thing. I don't get him. This is not about the candidate. It's about his cause. If he is as passionate about the people of America and their plight then he should give an endorsement to the candidate he best able to fight his fight or simply come forward and say neither candidate should get my endorsement.

[pauldg0]

76. Screw you..........

Go Edwards.

[kelligesq]

97. Lawyers try to get the most they can for their clients-we are his clients in a sense

why would he come out and give an endorsement which means giving his delegates
to either of them if they haven't agreed to his demands to carry his and our
populist platform. This isn't a popularity contest. It's a serious business for
the direction of the country.

Clinton is a centrist
Obama is said to be right of centrist which I believe because he want to bring
Republicans into the fold.

I assume your one of us who is sick and tired of the dems agreeing and voting with the republicans.

Both Clinton and Obama have voted to fund the war numerous times.
not much difference between them

If he can make one or the other come to the left , Populist, it benefits us and
everyone who isn't wealthy.

It's obvious that neither embodies his core populist principles.

This is a time of negotiation. Why should he endorse and give away OUR only wedge
if neither have agreed to what he stands for.

And they both admit they have had meetings and phone calls with him.

Apparently they're not agreeing to issues of his platform. Yet.

[IndieLeft]

69. Edwards afraid? Come on!

If he said he will fight for people, fight against corporations then how could he be afraid? He simply didn't get the traction with disaffected voters. With his candidacy largely ignored by the media and a few missteps, he decided not to continue.

[JDPriestly]

74. I'm voting for Edwards on Tuesday in California

[OzarkDem]

80. Not surprising

And no doubt those who are doing the "rat fucking" are the same ones who will attack your thread and tell you you're crazy.

Take notes.

[kelligesq]

101. a kick for John Edwardians

:bounce:

[gordianot]

82. I took Gore at his word and now I take Edwards at his, he withdrew.

:crazy:

Gore said he was not running and he did not run. Edwards withdrew like Gore he is not running for President. You are either running or you are not. I listened to Gore tease and the promise from supporters. I will not do that with Edwards.


END OF STORY

[kelligesq]

100. I've just spoken with the attorney at our local Democratic Executive Committee- John's

I've just spoken with the attorney at our local Democratic Executive Committee- John's


I just spoke to an attorney at our local Democratic Executive Committee.

He says John Edwards wording of "suspending" was highly unusual.

(he thought John didnt have the money, but he does and more to come
with matching funds in March. He's for Hillary but mentioned John
has the best health plan!)

"Yes, it means he could come back in" he says

So "Suspended Not Ended" is the accurate slogan,

He also advises that delegates at the convention could draft John Edwards -

Some caucus goers are voting "Uncommitted" so they'd be free to vote Edwards at

the convention.

its more important than ever that we vote Edwards or Caucus goers voting

uncommitted so that John can garner delegates



If anyone wants to make calls today to dems and needs a list of dem numbers

- email me - remind people they can vote for John Edwards, he's on their ballot,

get John Edwards the votes to get him delegates



Go Edwardians for John Edwards, For Populism, For This Country, For Your Family and for Yourself.

:bounce: Go for it John

Suspended Not Ended