Egnever
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:24 AM
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You hearing all the republicans and independants calling in saying they are voting for Obama? |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 12:24 AM by Egnever
on Cspan right now.
Crazy!
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:25 AM
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1. Scary. Obama is slick, no doubt about it. Good for dems i suppose... |
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if he does win the nom, if he can keep the indies and pubs along til November, that'll be good.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:29 AM
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7. Sure would be good ~ the Rethugs don't like McCain |
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so just maybe some of them will see the light and vote RIGHT! :bounce:
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:30 AM
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:26 AM
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2. what about the Evangelicals |
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:29 AM
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6. They will sit it out, for the most part. They hate McCain more than they hate Obama. If |
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Hill runs, they will be out in droves because they hate her more than McCain
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:26 AM
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3. Then later on in the bar they're laughing their asses off about fooling Dems |
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:27 AM
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4. Do you know what genuis is? |
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A liberal with the ability to convince conservatives and everyone in the middle he isn't really a liberal and then persuade them to work with him to put his liberal policies into action.
That's genius.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:38 AM
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17. That's true! The opposite is a conservative who ran as a liberal and then passed NAFTA, |
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dismantled the welfare safty net, passed the telecommunications act deregulation boodoggle, convinced gays that staying in the closet was progress, set back universal healthcare 20 years, allowed Iran/Contra and the BCCI drug/terrorism laundering bank to be swept under the rug, and then tries to do more of the same 8 years later.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:28 AM
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5. Yet we all know that when it comes election time |
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People who support the war will vote McCain People who don't support choice will vote McCain People who don't support gay marriage will vote McCain Etc
That's 99.9% of the Republican base.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:30 AM
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8. And, you're buying it? |
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Since when did we start trusting Republicans at their word? When they called into CSPAN to say they'd vote for Obama? As the saying goes -- there is a sucker born every minute.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:32 AM
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10. I believe them when they say they'd sooner gnaw off their own feet than vote for Hillary. |
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Funny, how much of that sentiment seems to be out there.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:34 AM
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11. They'd rather vote for Karl Marx than any Dem ... Hillary or Obama |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 12:34 AM by sjdnb
Reality check.
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Warren DeMontague
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:36 AM
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Still, I think the ONLY way the GOP has any chance in hell of holding on to the WH is if they nominate McCain and we nominate Hillary.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:37 AM
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14. Especially from Obama supporters |
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isn't that funny how they seem to, viscerally, hate her even more than the Repukes. Says a lot.
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:05 PM
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35. Actually, Obama was my 3rd to last choice. |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:08 PM by impeachdubya
Hillary, probably my 2nd to last.
Out of all of 'em, I'd say I like Biden the least.
I wanted Al Gore to run. Oh, well, like Mick Jagger says, you can't always get what you want. After that, I was a Dodd supporter.
I was prepared to vote for Edwards until he dropped out.
So, one, I'm not an "Obama supporter" -at least not longer than it's been that JRE has been out of the race- and two, I like Hillary. I liked her more in 1992 than I did watching her shill for the Invasion of Iraq, but I still like her. If she's the nominee, I will support her.
But frankly, I think she will have real problems with independents if she gets the nomination, and her (and her supporters) attitude of "We're entitled to this, so get out of the way" has rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:39 AM
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18. We. Don't. Need. Their. Votes. |
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It's time to stop sucking up to policies we despise.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:50 AM
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23. Getting independents and republicans to vote for Obama doesn't mean sucking to policies we despise |
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Barack seems to have the uncanny ability to be attractive to non dems despite having a voting record that is as progressive as Hillary's.
If a democrat can make progressive policies appeal to independents and moderate republicans, why is that a bad thing? :shrug:
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:34 AM
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12. Nah..he cleverly invoked the name of St. Ronnie & mesmerized them.. |
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Shrewd strategy! He's one smart cookie!;)
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:37 AM
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He WILL transform this nation form despair to a nation of Hope.
Yes we can change.
Yes we can heal this nation.
Yes we can seize our future.
And as we leave this state with a new wind at our backs, and take this journey across the country we love with the message we’ve carried from the plains of Iowa to the hills of New Hampshire; from the Nevada desert to the South Carolina coast; the same message we had when we were up and when we were down - that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope; and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we can’t, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people in three simple words:
Yes. We. Can.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:41 AM
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19. Most frightening nonsense I've read in years. |
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This is what comes of decades of self-help gurus.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:44 AM
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A liberal with the ability to convince conservatives and everyone in the middle he isn't really a liberal and then persuade them to work with him to put his liberal policies into action.
Might do you some good to learn about him.
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Sun Feb-03-08 01:22 AM
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27. Might do you some good to realize not all of us think operating like |
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right wing propaganda machines is a good thing ... whether it serves Obama/the Dem Candidate or not.
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Sun Feb-03-08 01:27 AM
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30. Tell that to Hillary, the "Democratic Neocon" |
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Sun Feb-03-08 01:28 AM
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31. So, am I to assume if she wins the nom you'll be voting McCain or ... |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:07 PM
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36. No more than anyone should assume you'll vote for McCain if Obama gets the nom. nt |
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:49 AM
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22. This nation needs hope |
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Thats what brings union, and only with union can we bring true prosperity. We need a new paradigm of hope. Why does The DU not like Obama!
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Sun Feb-03-08 01:24 AM
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:38 AM
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16. I buy it when a Republican I know well tells me McCain is crazy AND |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 12:38 AM by sparosnare
he'd rather stick a hot poker in his eye than vote for Hillary.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:45 AM
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21. i can`t believe anything on cspan |
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:52 AM
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24. Obama appealing to the GOP is a good thing? |
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Obviously, the party is leaning way too far to the right (i.e., bigots, illegal wars, tax breaks ONLY for the rich paid for by the hard work/sacrifices of avg. Americans, no-bid contract, fraud, waste, incompetence, and on and on) for me to ever participate.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:54 AM
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25. Believe it or not, there are a few in that horrid party that left it because they had a brain |
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and a conscience. If Obama gets their vote, is that a bad thing?
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Sun Feb-03-08 01:34 AM
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32. I think they are playing a game of manipulation ... but |
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if you choose to trust them, do so at your own risk.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:56 AM
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26. He Is appealing to the GOP |
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That is waking-up from being manipulated!
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Sun Feb-03-08 01:26 AM
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29. I say lets give them asylum, for growing a brain. |
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Sun Feb-03-08 01:40 AM
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33. they are as sick of the divisive politics as the dems are |
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Obama has that appeal because of the vision he has for this country, and it is the same as every American
It is the politicians that create fear, demonize the 'other' side etc etc
Hillary has tried to the same thing to him, saying 'beware of spreading false hope'
The only 'false' hope I see is electing Hillary and expecting anything to change
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Sun Feb-03-08 08:55 AM
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34. You can't just write off half the country. You need to open their eyes |
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to new possibilities. We will never get ANYTHING done if we continue down that road. Hillary turns Republicans and Independents off--they will just NOT listen to her. Some (and there are still quite a few Republicans that aren't total nut jobs but are easily swayed) actually are listening to Obama, and are beginning to turn from the dark side, I believe. Obama doesn't carry the baggage with him as does Clinton. He has a chance to push a more progressive/liberal agenda than Hill ever will. He has an ability to frame the agenda in a much more non-threatening way that appeals to non-Democrats.
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