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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:35 AM
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John Edwards was right
Spent today on my first day volunteering for Obama.

A group of about 300 met heard some speeches and went out through San Diego on the standard canvass operation. I was impressed at how well organized they were. I was surprised at how happy they were to see someone from the Edwards campaign.

The area we canvassed was a combination of lower class apartments and medium class homes. A medium class home in San Diego markets between 5-700,000.

The results were very similar to the polls. People were very nice and happy to see us. Unlike in here the Clinton supporters saw us as fellow democrats and not competitors. We found more Obama supporters and there were many families split all with men/women supporting Obama/Clinton.

We found 8 Edwards supporters and in this precinct they all went Obama.

While the above is offered as background and may be of some interest its not really the point I wanted to share.

On one side road tucked in between the houses was a cabin tucked way back amongst the trees.

I found the owner an older woman in her 60s tending her garden or I should say she was fighting it. We told her who we were and she shooed us away and went back to the garden. As I was walking out I wasn't trying to find my way or the owner so I could look at the house more carefully. I was struck at what I saw.

I realized that there was no roof. Black plastic tarp covered this cabin. There were holes in the walls and I could see inside. There were a couple of rusting cars. This woman was living in something you would picture from Appalachia and you wondered about the rain and cold. I wondered if all her food came from that small garden. I wondered if she had hot water or electricity. My impression in the brief moment we met was that she might have some mental disabilities. She may have just been tired.

In any case, in this neighborhood in this great city in this great country I found another James Low (sp). It was a very sad scene.

After sometime and reflection, it made me feel proud again that John and Elizabeth had made such a sacrifice to remind our country about those that are forgotten and are thrown away or overlooked.

None of our candidates are perfect and some of the people here are very clever in finding that particular little misstep that would gain some minuscule advantage in a totally meaningless DU exchange. Tomorrow I go out cheerfully for Obama. I like him. More much more importantly alot of people like him. One of the things I like most about him was that when he finished at Harvard he wasn't seduced by the Supreme Court or Wall Street he went back to work in Chicago - with the same kind of people that lived in that shack.

Nothing would make me happier tomorrow to run across Clinton supporters getting out their people. I know I won't be coming across any republican canvassers. They have succumbed to a toxic drink of self interest and self promotion. "I don't need no stinking super bowl".(Of course if the Chargers were there I would watch it)


John Edwards was right. There are people living in our neighborhoods that are struggling with a great weight. He was right that we can do something about it. I am happy that I am able to carry that on with a candidate I respect and admire. For those of you who are doing the same for the Clinton campaign I salute you. For those of you who were so closely identified with John and Elizabeth, or Dennis or Joe or Chris or Bill, that to think of another candidate smacks of betrayal I understand you and know that you will be channeling your devotion to this cause, to our cause in other ways, I salute you.

We are approaching a historical moment in our country and in our lives. Some will watch and some will help it along. Our party now has the opportunity to wrest leadership of the Whitehouse and Congress and make it a better country. I believed John when he told me that.

John Edwards was right.


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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:42 AM
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1. Glad you're at peace, for myself can't support Hillary or Obama
I'll vote JE in the primary and just stay home for the GE, if no real 'change/progressive' candidate is on the ballot.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:45 AM
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2. I understand and thank you
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:48 AM
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4. Thank you for your work!
And of course John Edwards was right about this sin that we allow called poverty. :(
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:41 AM
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12. Don't you dare invoke John to get votes for your candidate. You. despise Edwards
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 02:48 AM by saracat
Do not use him now.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:47 AM
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13. Yup
saracat :yourock:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:20 AM
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19. Eight Edwards supporters all going for Obama
Bless their hearts.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:19 AM
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7. I'm with you on that one...
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:14 PM
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26. Agree, Obama is no Edwards. (n/t)
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:46 AM
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3. Excellent Post !!! - K & R !!!
:bounce::kick::bounce:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:12 AM
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5. Powerful, and thank you so much for sharing this personal story.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 01:26 AM by Tatiana
:cry:

That's what it's all about, isn't it? Trying to make the world a little better, trying to bring a little happiness to that woman. She probably thought, what can you do for me? I've been here for years and nobody has seemed to care.

We have to reach out and tell those people that we DO care. In Chicago, I canvassed for Kerry in both the wealthy (University of Chicago) areas of Hyde Park and Lincoln Park. I also went to GOTV in very poor communities where public housing was being torn down and residents were being forced away from the Cabrini Green apartments where they had lived for decades.

I'll never forget a woman I met who had lived in one of the Cabrini Green "row-houses" for 15 years then was moved to one of the high rise units and her question to me was "Why should I bother to vote?"



"Is Kerry going to come here? Kerry don't care nothing about us." I looked at that proud woman, who had raised 4 children in the projects (one deceased) and I felt so helpless. A lack of hope was written all over her face. And I wanted so much to tell her that we care, that we want better housing for all the residents. That we wanted to give those people some hope that they could graduate from high school and go to college or learn a trade and be gainfully employed.

We need candidates who aren't afraid to go to the forgotten places, to see the forgotten people and to give them a voice. It's by God's grace that I wasn't a Cabrini-Green resident. I lived only a block and a half away from it, in Chicago's "Old Town" neighborhood and so I didn't have to worry about police not showing up if someone tried to stab or rob me. I didn't have to worry about being raped in darkened stairwell or stranded in a faulty elevator surrounded by the stench of urine.

Whether rural or urban, poverty is the same. Hopefully, we will have a Democratic candidate who will feel the same sense of urgency that John Edwards does that we need; we MUST do something about this problem.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:23 AM
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8. for 10 years I worked in the UN on refugee affairs and worked on the
resettlement of more than 400,000 refugees. When people say it has to be perfect or govenment doesn't matter I have seen personlly that good is better than nothing and we never get perfect. And government actions do have an effect. I went into Vietnam shortly after the war was over. I saw over a million people housed in refugee camps between Thailand and Indonesia. It was government action that got those people in action and it was government action that got those people out.

But for the last 7 years I have shared the feeling of helplessness that you speak to.

This long nightmare is about to come to a close and those of us with great passion for our candidates should not let that passion blind us to a great thing that is about to happen - if we make it happen. Thank you for your post.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:10 AM
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10. Well, first of all, THANK YOU for your service.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 02:43 AM by Tatiana
And you've hit the nail on the head. We've got to start SOMEWHERE. Otherwise, we'll continue to critique various plans (none of which will reach the perfection threshold) and NOTHING will get done.

We can begin combating hunger by simply making sure that children go to school, and giving them free breakfast and lunch. I work in education and two years ago, we piloted a free food bank for needy parents during the summer (when school was not in session). I was AMAZED by how many people showed up for food to feed their families. We ended up running out of food to distribute for two consecutive weeks until we were able to raise enough donations to purchase additional food to meed the demand. These were families with working parents. I knew many of them; I worked with their children. They baked the bread at the local organic food store. They fixed my sandwich at Panera and measured my child's foot at the shoe store. And yet they couldn't afford to put food on the table. This should be a collective shame.

Roosevelt had the New Deal.
JFK had the New Frontier.
Johnson had the Great Society.

I wish we could get back to that sort of visionary domestic agenda. Even the Republicans had their abhorrent Contract with America in '94. It is long past time for us to push a domestic agenda that addresses poverty. I think Mr. Obama is off to a good start.

Excerpted from Remarks of Senator Barack Obama: Changing the Odds for Urban America
Washington, DC | July 18, 2007

But poverty is not just a function of simple economics. It's also a matter of where you live. There are vast swaths of rural America and block after block in our cities where poverty is not just a crisis that hits pocketbooks, but a disease that infects every corner of the community. I will be outlining my rural agenda in the coming weeks, but today I want to talk about what we can do as a nation to combat the poverty that persists in our cities.

This kind of poverty is not an issue I just discovered for the purposes of a campaign; it is the cause that led me to a life of public service almost twenty-five years ago.

I was just two years out of college when I first moved to the South Side of Chicago to become a community organizer. I was hired by a group of churches that were trying to deal with steel plant closures that had devastated the surrounding neighborhoods. Everywhere you looked, businesses were boarded up and schools were crumbling and teenagers were standing aimlessly on street corners, without jobs and without hope.

What's most overwhelming about urban poverty is that it's so difficult to escape - it's isolating and it's everywhere. If you are an African-American child unlucky enough to be born into one of these neighborhoods, you are most likely to start life hungry or malnourished. You are less likely to start with a father in your household, and if he is there, there's a fifty-fifty chance that he never finished high school and the same chance he doesn't have a job. Your school isn't likely to have the right books or the best teachers. You're more likely to encounter gang-activities than after-school activities. And if you can't find a job because the most successful businessman in your neighborhood is a drug dealer, you're more likely to join that gang yourself. Opportunity is scarce, role models are few, and there is little contact with the normalcy of life outside those streets.

What you learn when you spend your time in these neighborhoods trying to solve these problems is that there are no easy solutions and no perfect arguments. And you come to understand that for the last four decades, both ends of the political spectrum have been talking past one another.

It's true that there were many effective programs that emerged from Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty. But there were also some ineffective programs that were defended anyway, as well as an inability of some on the left to acknowledge that the problems of absent fathers or persistent crime were indeed problems that needed to be addressed.

The right has often seized on these failings as proof that the government can't and shouldn't do a thing about poverty - that it is a result of individual moral failings and cultural pathologies and so we should just sit back and let these cities fend for themselves. And so Ronald Reagan launched his assault on welfare queens, and George Bush spent the last six years slashing programs to combat poverty, and job training, and substance abuse, and child abuse.

Well, we know that's not the answer. When you're in these neighborhoods, you can see what a difference it makes to have a government that cares. You can see what a free lunch program does for a hungry child. You can see what a little extra money from an earned income tax credit does for a family that's struggling. You can see what prenatal care does for the health of a mother and a newborn. So don't tell me there's no role for government in lifting up our cities.

But you can also see what a difference it makes when people start caring for themselves. It makes a difference when a father realizes that responsibility does not end at conception; when he understands that what makes you a man is not the ability to have a child but the courage to raise one. It makes a difference when a parent turns off the TV once in awhile, puts away the video games, and starts reading to their child, and getting involved in his education. It makes a difference when we realize that a child who shoots another child has a hole in his heart that no government can fill. That makes a difference.

So there are no easy answers and perfect arguments. As Dr. King said, it is not either-or, it is both-and. Hope is not found in any single ideology - an insistence on doing the same thing with the same result year after year.

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/07/18/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_19.php
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:24 AM
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11. I think we are back but this time it is going to be even better
and the reason is this;

There is no real internal policy divisions in our party and the Republicans are at basic civil war mode.

This is not going to be like the 60's.


It is going to be better.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:18 AM
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18. In your op you say that John is right. He is more right than
any of us will ever know. Unlike you though, I feel that the positions of the two primary candidate left, have not addressed that helplessness that the vulnerable have had to carry. And like you I will vote the big D in the G.E. but this primary I will vote John Edwards.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:17 AM
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6. Excellent post. Here's a link you may find interesting, too...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/01/AR2008020102827.html?hpid=opinionsbox1&sub=AR

It talks about our divisions in a way that makes me think what we're seeing played out here is just the American condition.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:31 AM
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9. Thanks for posting that. Excellent article.
I hadn't realized that these divisions were strong back then too. Interesting.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:12 AM
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14. Very interesting it makes you realize how selective our memory can be.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:09 AM
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15. wow how low will you obama people go thinking you will get the Edwards people support??
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 09:09 AM by flyarm
You would use a poor persons tragedy to try to get our support..wow some people are just down right----- well i will save my word for you..!

You never could stand Edwards..so now you are playing the bait game on the backs of poor people..wow...you just hit bottom....

and you just sealed the deal for me..i will never support ..ever ever ..obama..the crook who's buddies are building Nuclear power stations in Iraq!!..no wonder he helped these guys out..and they bought him his house and financed him!

fly
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:16 AM
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16. Well I for one hope that you are able to make a contribution
with the Clinton campaign where you evidently feel more comfortable with.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:18 AM
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17. i don't feel comfortable with either and i maxed out with Edwards!
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 09:32 AM by flyarm
and after hubby and i maxed out...we
contributed merchandise to the campaign..plus i traveled to Iowa and South Carolina to volunteer work for the campaign..i bought food for the volunteers..and water and snacks and drinks..

i think i did my share.


oh and your story..i saw that house after house ..day after day in south carolina..not one house in the inner city..many were in assessable..they were falling down so bad..house after house of them...while i canvassed for Edwards in So Carolina..houses no Obama kids would dare go to...

And the people were told by their church to vote for Huckabee.

fly

ps in 2004 i housed the field rep for Kerry for three Counties in Fla for 7 months.....and for 3 months i fed all the volunteers at a cost of approx $250.00 a day at the campaign office..

i do more than my share..

but this time..Obama and Clinton..i nor anyone who did it in 2004 will do a damn thing.

i am done!

my money does not go to crooks..be they republican ..nor democrats..

end of story
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:05 AM
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22. 30 years ago when I felt the same way I ended up sitting out the
GE and volunteered registering voters in poor areas instead.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:23 AM
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24. in 2004 i was a poll watcher at large in the poor areas to make sure their votes counted..
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:27 AM by flyarm
in Fla..

i did it for early vote..most days 15 hours a day..and for the general..

I work with the poor alot...and minorities...and the disenfranchised.

fly

oh and i married a double minority..Hispanic and Native American Indian..and my son is a Minority as well.
We are of the lucky ones.. so we give back as much as possible.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:45 PM
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29. I was a poll watcher in a poor area too in 2004.
In my case on an impoverished Indian reservation.

I had just divorced my second wife whom I had met when we worked together on the 2000 election. She was/still is actually one one the most effective persons I know in trying to convince Lakota that they should vote, and vote for Democrats. (It helped that she was both full blood, and fluent.)

The Lakota generally are Democratic to the extent they they are interested in politics at all, but they find it very difficult to be enthusiastic about Democrats either. As one of them stated the Democrats treat them more fairly, but its like the difference between having one eye gouged out and having both eyes gouged out.

Irrespective, they came out in large numbers for Stephanie Herseth (and in fact made the difference for her when she first ran) and they came out heavily for Daschle and Johnson too.

I remember having worked as a poll watcher from 7:00 am to about 11:00 pm, and having no idea how the election as a whole was going any of that time.

The Lakota came out for Herseth, and it was enough.

They came out for Daschle, and it was not enough.

They came out for Gore and Kerry, and South Dakota could not possibly have made the difference.

They rejected the token Lakota whom the Republicans put up against Stephanie Herseth in 2006 by 3-1 having seen through the tokenism, and in doing so probably made the difference for Johnson.

And they are suffering badly economically, and culturally, and a good many of them are making some tremendous strides.

To the extent they vote this year, and I think this includes not just Lakota, but a lot of Native Americans, in a lot of important states--among other things, I believe they made the difference for Senator Tester in Montana, and thus brought us a Senate majority, they can be trusted to vote predominantly and perhaps overwhelmingly Democratic.

The question is what will inspire them to actually get to the polls and vote.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:34 AM
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20. John Edwards is right.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 09:36 AM by alteredstate
I've spent the last eight months canvassing the poorest areas of North Charleston, SC. It's appalling that such poverty exists in 2008. What's even worse is knowing that these folks are being forced out of their homes as the area is taken over by developers eager to expand the high-rent downtown Charleston neighborhoods.

We registered thousands of voters in the precincts. Here's the good news --- they came out in huge numbers to vote on January 26th. I'm supporting Barack Obama because he has energized and empowered citizens who've felt they had no voice in our government. I think John Edwards shares Barack Obama's dream of a better country, and I truly hoped it would come down to Edwards and Obama in the primaries. No matter who wins the primary, it would be wonderful if Edwards agrees to run as the Vice Presidential candidate or is appointed Attorney General.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:53 AM
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21. sorry but i do not believe he would do either with Obama..and i do not believe Obama or Edwards were
even close on the same page..spin all you want..they were never close.

fly
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:22 AM
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23. No spin here.
My top choices for President were Obama. Edwards, Kucinich and Biden. I would have been happy with any of them, but Barack Obama is my first choice. I'm not excited about 4 years of the Clintons.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:13 PM
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25. KICK
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:23 PM
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27. Yes, John Edwards was and still is right!
I don't believe for one second that either Clinton or Obama will make the difference in this country that John Edwards would have.

I am glad I have already voted for John.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:28 PM
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28. Edwards hasn't endorsed Obama
please stop trying to ride on his coattails.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:48 PM
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30. Edwards IS right. So don't sell your soul to the devil then. nt
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