If _________ is the Dem nominee, and McCain is the repub nominee then

[radfringe]

let's try to set the record straight on this freakout meme going around..

according to the poll below - doesn't matter if Obama or Clinton are the Dem nominee - they would both lose to McCain in the HUGE, GIGANITIC LANDSIDE range of 1% to 1.1%.

THE NOVEMBER MATCH-UPS, AS SEEN FROM JANUARY
Potentially positive news for McCain, Obama

Professor Alan Abramowitz of Emory University, a long-time friend of the Crystal Ball, ( http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/ )sent us the following table, summarizing the national polls in January 2008. Alan writes:

"At this point, John McCain is the only Republican candidate who appears to have a realistic chance of defeating either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. McCain does dramatically better against both Democrats than any other Republican, and of course much better than a generic Republican. All of the other Republican candidates lose badly to Clinton and even more badly to Obama. Whether McCain can maintain his broad appeal while also trying to appeal to the conservative base of the GOP in the remaining primaries remains to be seen."

Match-Up Average (N)

Generic D vs. Generic R +16.6 (2)

Clinton vs. McCain -1.1 (6)
Clinton vs. Romney +13.2 (5)
Clinton vs. Huckabee +11.7 (6)
Clinton vs. Giuliani +10.8 (6)

Obama vs. McCain -1.0 (6)
Obama vs. Romney +19.0 (5)
Obama vs. Huckabee +16.5 (6)
Obama vs. Giuliani +18.4 (5)


Source: Pollingreport.com, January 25, 2008. (http://pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm)


1% or 1.1% is not insurmountable at this point in time.. most polls have a +/- error average of 3%-4%... This is only February, we have a long way to go until November, and A LOT CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

[glowing]

1. Oh, the Republican spin machine will be hot and heavy... as usual

and Clinton and Obama's little sand box fight will have left them wide open for attack...

[Didereaux]

2. If and if happens, we are in deep crap! and the toughest fight in 60yrs. n/m

[radfringe]

3. exactly

which is why we owe it to ourselves to research the fact INDEPENDENTLY of the noise machines, look at all the issues and then decide

whoever is (s)elected has an enormous mess to deal with - there is no time for a honeymoon nor time to "grow into the job" - they have to be able to hit the ground running from the second they are sworn into office.

we don't have a one issue mess or problem. it's the economy, jobs, taxcuts, trade, immigration, healthcare, energy, iraq, terrorism, foreign relations, education, social security - you name it and bush/cheney have made a mess of it.

campaign promises/platforms only give you an idea of where a candidate stands, once elected those promises/platforms can become something entirely different as they are run through the legislative process.

I not only look at what 'x' promises to do, but also gauge the ability to get it done.

anyone who thought this election was going to be a done deal for the dems has forgotten the fear/smear tactics of the GOPs. it's not going to be easy, it's not going to be a cakewalk.

and we all might still be here after November bitching about at least another 4 years of GOP bullshit.

vote for who YOU think will do the job the way YOU think is should be done, but make it an informed vote.

[radfringe]

4. kick

[radfringe]

5. kick

[frogcycle]

6. The democrats once again manage to salvage defeat from the jaws of victory

It will be an historic moment indeed when, after eight years of the absolutely worst administration in history, of systematic dismantling of the Constitution, the same cabal that ruled for those eight years is ELECTED by We the People to continue the carnage.


Fitting post for today, The Day the Music Died.

[NoPasaran]

7. We will make John "Thousand Years War" rue the day he was born

Fifty States Strategy? I say go for the Fifty States Sweep!