Hillary is going to bleed the middle class by garnishing wages to pay for healthcare

[ugdude]

Unbelievable.

How will middle-class citizens live? Im not rich, shes going to take money out of my wage that I worked hard for?

She is no friend to the poor, she is in with the insurance companies.

Can you believe that? Forcing people to buy health insurance instead of making it affordable.

She has no idea on how to run healthcare, thats also why her first healthcare plan failed.

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[FormerDittoHead]

10. 120 posts. Of couse this doob thinks the rich are paying for OUR health insurance now... n/t

[rzemanfl]

18. I think you are violating DU rules by mentioning the low post

count. When I want to make a point like this I usually say something like "when you fish, do you cast or just drag the lure behind the boat?"

[FormerDittoHead]

26. That's interesting. I didn't know that. n/t

[ugdude]

27. I'm not an idiot. Read the fucking constitution

"No, you don't get it. Obama gets it.
Hillary is carrying the insurance industry answer. It's as simple as that.

What is progressive about requiring everyone to buy health insurance and garnishing wages to do so?

She has sold out on this issue. "


Better yet, read the healthcare plans. People will be poor if she forces mandates on her overexpensive healthcare.

[FormerDittoHead]

33. OK, I didn't call you an idiot, right? ..and what does the constitution have to do with this?

If everyone pays the same, absolute dollar amount for whatever plan she has, you're RIGHT (gasp!) - it's not progressive and you're RIGHT, I would oppose it too...

You see, CURRENTLY, we all pay the same AMOUNT. Our household of $60,000 pays the same amount as people making $1 Million a year...

So, IF (and I DO have my reservations) it's tied to INCOME, that is, the more you make the more you pay, it WOULD BE *MUCH* MORE PROGRESSIVE than our current "system"...

But if, as you suggest, we're all going to pay the same AMOUNT. Then YOU'RE RIGHT, there would be NOTHING progressive about it...

Let's find out...

[Iris]

42. The biggest cause of personal bankruptcy in this country is medical bills.

So whose bleeding the middle class dry?

[rzemanfl]

43. I've probably violated them all at one time or another. n/t

[desi]

28. Quite prolific actually.

Say it loud, say it often, and hope it sticks is their mantra.

[stevietheman]

15. I don't know, but this 'troll' is telling the truth about what Hillary said...

on 'This Week' with George Stephanopoulos.

[FormerDittoHead]

19. oh really? She said she was going to (quote)"BLEED" the middle class? REALLY?

The problem is that we're already being BLED by our health insurance that is GARNISHED from our wages, 20% of those GARNISHED wages are *PROFIT* (and you may want to look up the definition of profit) for the insurance companies...

[Windy]

21. If she forces everyone to buy healthcare insurance w/o measureable assistance, she will!

No question about it. Its common sense.

[stevietheman]

22. She said wage garnishment as an option to enforcing mandates.

She actually said that! I'm sure ABC will have the transcript online shortly.

[FormerDittoHead]

35. Absolutely. I would support that, as I support having taxes withheld from wages.. n/t

[neutron]

2. Breaking: NYT: Obama Compomises Nuclear Leak Bill Lies to Iowa Voters

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html?ex=1359694800&en=f2cec53f8b5de3bc&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

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[Clintonista2]

14. I hope you alerted yourself, cause your "ALERTED" is about to get deleted :)

[Clintonista2]

3. Wait, what will Obama do to parents who can't afford healthcare for their children?

[ugdude]

6. Um... mandating for children is LESS expensive than mandating everyone

Mandating is an imposition on civil liberties. Once the child is old enough, they can make up their own minds if they want to buy AFFORDABLE health insurance. unlike Hillarys plan, under his plan, healthcare will be affordable.

[Clintonista2]

9. You didn't answer my question, but then again, I didn't expect you to

What will Obama do to enforce his MANDATE on children?

[suston96]

5. Everybody has wages "garnished" to pay for Social Security"....

Where is your link.....so we can read details?

[ugdude]

8. Its common sense and check the ABC website for the transcript

Great argument BTW, comparing social security to healthcare /sarcasm

[suston96]

13. You make a statement, back it up with a link. That's the way it's done here...nt

[stevietheman]

16. The transcript isn't available yet.... but it will be.

Hillary actually said that garnishing wages is an option. Heard it with my own ears.

[Deja Q]

23. Which is why people can't live off of it, and what happens when people lose their jobs?

To offshoring?

There are more fundamental problems; jobs being #1.

[KittyWampus]

7. there are strengths and weaknesses to both Clinton AND Obama's plan. Honesty would demand

a discussion acknowledge that from the outset.

[Yossariant]

11. Obama's plan costs more for EVERYONE.

[reality based]

12. If Paul Krugman has reservations about Obama's health care positions

vs. Hillary's, then so do I. http://www.mydd.com/

[WinkyDink]

17. Insurance companies are the one who should get the mandate to PROVIDE for everyone.

That is, if it so terribly beyond the pale to have what Europeans have.

[ugdude]

29. Hillary is friends with the insurance companies. Theyre funding her campaign

Corporate lobbyist money. She doesnt care about those that are truly sick and need affordable healthcare.

[desi]

20. Unbelievable

Unbelievable is right since wages can not be garnisheed to "pay" for anything other than an unpaid DEBT. Do you know what a debt might be? You Obamabots are a hoot.

[stevietheman]

24. ...meanwhile, Hillbots want the poor and middle class to be burdened with garnishments...

on their wages to cover Hillary's Mandates (TM).

[ugdude]

25. read the constitution

Is mandating healthcare legal or does it take away from civil liberties?

READ THE CONSTITUTION

[desi]

30. So now you are a Constitutional Scholar.

Show me where in the Constitution it says that the Federal Government can garnishee wages for ANYTHING.

[Cameron27]

31. Does social security diminish your civil liberties?

[ugdude]

34. yes but since both candidates support it, it isnt a point of contention

your candidate supports mandates by garnishing wages, mine doesnt.

[Cameron27]

37. What does that have to do with

the contention you made about the constitution and mandates diminishing civil rights?

[suston96]

32. I Googled Hillary garnish wages.......Only refs to Hillary DU here today....

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_11/012605.php

It's John Edwards, not Hillary who specified garnishing wages.

[Avalux]

36. Google won't help you. SHE said it on TV a short while ago. n/t

[ugdude]

38. She said it today on Views

[shenmue]

39. So, how long have you been a Republican?

Do you have an article to cite, or are you just putting the keyboard directly under your butt?

[ordinaryaveragegirl]

40. I'd rather pay a little now for insurance...

Than pay a lot later if I didn't have it. Just sayin'...

[HughMoran]

41. I'm already being bled to death by my employer

lol, could it be any worse?