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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:17 AM
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New MSNBC/McClatchy/MasonDixon - California - Clinton 45 Obama 36
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:25 AM by ruggerson

Clinton leads in 4 out of 5 states polled:

California

Clinton 45 Obama 36

New Jersey:

Clinton 46 Obama 39

MIssouri:

Clinton 47 Obama 41

Arizona:

Clinton 43 Obama 41

Georgia:

Obama 47 Clinton 41


http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/03/super-tueday-polling/

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/03/634165.aspx
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:17 AM
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1. Good to see.........Now people won't expect Obama to win
Better Coverage on Wednesday
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:22 AM
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3. This appears to be an outlier
And I'm skeptical of ALL polls done in confidence WITH media organizations. But all of the other post-Debate CA polls show the race either closing and now TWO show Obama in the lead. I find it very hard to believe Clinton got a 9-point post-Debate boost in a single day. She did good, but not THAT good...but in a DAY? Ras, Zogby, and Field Polls haven't picked this up in their equations.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:24 AM
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4. It's hardly an outlier
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:29 AM
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8. I think it is...
there's no other poll showing a 9-point jump for Clinton...that's simply unrealistic. You would think Obama committed a gaffe on "Dean Scream" levels and that didn't happen. Most called it even.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:31 AM
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11. Zogby and Rasmussen have Obama leading, so yes, this one is an outlier. n/t
n/t
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:19 AM
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2. WOW, this goes against Yesterday's MSNBC polls showing Obama leading
Polls, got to love 'em.

:sarcasm:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:26 AM
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5. Zogby and Wapo are over the top..
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:24 PM
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17. apparently
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:00 PM
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19. Why, because this poll shows it a different way?
I hate to break it to you, but the most respected poll in California, the Field Poll, has Obama within 2.

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:41 AM
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16. I know, one CA poll shows Romney up by 3, SFC poll shows McCain up by 8
What the heck is up with these polls?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:59 PM
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18. much harder to get accurate state samples
than national ones

although those are all over the place too
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:27 AM
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6. ZOGBY has the more accurate polling in the last 4 state primaries in fact
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:30 AM by bigdarryl
he had the rethug Florida race DEAD ON at the end when the numbers came on so he's not going to be off all of a sudden in the upcoming states plus Rasmussen has the CA. race dead even also.and this morning on C-SPAN the gentlemen who was being interviewed from CA. said there CA. field polling is always accurate they have it 32 for Obama and 34 for Clinton.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:29 AM
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9. Rasmussen also has Obama ahead by one point. n/t
n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:30 AM
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10. In Michigan Mason-Dixon had Romney +8 and Zogby had McCain +1.
Polling firms are not uniformly more accurate than eachother.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:28 AM
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7. After today, Clinton will have NY in the palm of her hand
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:31 AM
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13. I saw that - incredible
You should make that an OP
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:32 AM
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14. I have a bagel in the palm of my hand!
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:36 AM
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15. NBC
They had Obama with only 8 points ahead of Hillary In South Carolina.Zogby has been more right this primary season.Look I think Obama supporters like me should not get compcete.We need to get out to vote tuesday.I will do It In Missouri.I am looking forward to It.Unlike 2004 my candiate has a chance to win.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:31 AM
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12. South Carolina
Mason Dixon...Jan 23....South Carolina.....Obama 38%.....Clinton 30%. The polls have been wacky for the Democrats this primary season.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:00 PM
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20. Interesting.
She still has the lead.
Good to know.
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