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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:55 AM
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Hey folks, we won't be voting for a dictator.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:59 AM by Mika
All of the hand wringing over the candidates positions on issues that they have little influence over is more of a media distraction to me. While, of course, health care is a major issue for all of us, but that isn't up to the prez, its up to us to elect congressional representatives that (are supposed to) represent our health care interests.
The president's main purview is foreign policy and the military. That issue is being distracted from with all of this hand wringing over non presidential issues.

As it is now, there's little discussion, by the media, of presidential candidate's plan and details on the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

My 2 cents.




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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:06 AM
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1. That's what I thought 7 years ago.
I never dreamed the country was actually electing a dictator, but that's what we've got.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:24 AM
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3. Did you vote for bush?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:06 AM
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2. Obamahillary vote to support and continue the occupation nt
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:26 AM
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4. Yes, but there's little discussion of it right now (in the corporomedia).
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:29 AM by Mika
Everyone is wringing their hands over the candidate's likes and dislikes of policies that the president has little to do with, while the war/military/foreign policy is their primary responsibility, and there's little real discussion and analysis of their strategies and policies in these areas.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:28 AM
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5. When they shunned Kucinich, that's when THAT dialogue ended.
Why are there NO antiwar candidates when it seems pretty clear teh American peopel wnat us the hell out of Iraq?


We may not be electing (another) dictator, but the current candidates sure as hell don't listen to the American people anymore because they are too busy helping out thier corporate pals and the meida is too busy telling us what we are supposed to think.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:32 AM
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6. Maybe its more the other way around.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:34 AM by Mika
Maybe its the American voters who want to get the US out of Iraq who aren't listening to the candidates. Why are they voting for candidates that don't represent their interests on the issues that the president has jurisdiction over?

I'm guessing that most Americans have no idea how laws are made, or who does it.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:07 PM
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8. Good point I think.
Of course the primary seems to be about that emotional appeal...change!...hope!....no real substance in in between the words.


I think Americans are so dumbed down that they really don't understand much about a lot of things anymore....
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:42 AM
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7. Why Are There No Antiwar Candidates? Because of What Happened The Last Time We Tried That (1972)
Running against a war, even a hugely unpopular one, turns out to be political suicide, as we learned in 1972.

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:08 PM
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9. We seem to learn the wrong things, don't we....
I wish we could learn that we can still make a difference....but perhaps I still have too much hope....
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:35 PM
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10. It Has Been 36 Years Since Then, But The Repigs are Vastly More Powerful Now Than They Were
Bringing them down over something like Watergate is no longer possible.
They do a thousand Watergates every day now and get away with it.

They own the news, they own the voting machinez, they own the churches, they own the courts.
Our party has been eviscerated by the Mighty Slime Machine, election fraud, murder and the threat of it, and a court that is totally in the service of the Repigs.

We are reduced to going through the motions, trying all the things that USED TO make a difference, trying to find something that might still work.

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:40 PM
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11. Couldn't have described it better myself....
just wish it wasn't so accurate.
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enfield collector Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:51 PM
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12. it's pretty ironic that the only anti-war candidate is a repug
and unelectable on so many other areas.
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