This is the first election in my lifetime

[MoonRiver]

during which I will actually despise the Democratic nominee if it is Obama.

I'm watching that scum Nader on CNN right now. Whereas in the past my blood pressure would be rising with every word from that traitor's mouth, I really will not care if he runs should we nominate Obama.

I know my individual feelings are irrelevant in terms of the overall electorate. But I doubt I am alone among Hillary supporters.

And no, I'm not sure if I will just get in line and vote for Obama next November. (Again, this is the first time I've ever thought or said that.) Obama can't take MY vote for granted. I won't vote for McCain, but this might be the first time in my life that I do not take off from work to get to the polls.

[AX10]

1. I know that I will be done with...

Air America and the left wing bloggers after this election.
The blind viceral hate of Hillary bothers me greatly. It is the same shit that I have condemned the right wing for.

[MoonRiver]

2. Same here.

For the first time since I got satellite radio I am actually switching off AA, especially when Schultz is on.

[AX10]

5. Schultz is letting his Limbaugh show these days.

I listen to the music on XM. Air American can feel free to turn it's signal off at any time.

[Thrill]

3. Don't complain if a Repuke gets elected then

You will have no reason to complain about how bad it is.

[MoonRiver]

4. You will have as little or less excuse to complain.

Pot meet kettle.

[Thrill]

14. Well don't vote and watch a Repuke pick more judges

and continue a senseless war. Do what you have to do. But don't wonder what you could of done. Because you would have done NOTHING when you could have.

Bottom line is there really isn't much difference in Hillary and Barack. So this line of thinking boggles the mind. The differences are so small and aren't significant.

I don't see why any Democrat would despise Obama. He has energized the party and brought in a ton of new voters. Sad.

[Emit]

6. What is it about Obama that you despise?

This is a sincere question. I'm curious.

[Occam Bandage]

9. He isn't The Great Polarizer. This is what we meant by "HRC is polarizing."

Among people who form opinions, Hillary Clinton is either:

1. The Great Satan who must never be allowed near office.
2. The Great Goddess, and all who oppose her are filth.

[MoonRiver]

10. I consider him to be a duplicitous scheming pretender.

He is also mean spirited and totally ruthless.

[THUNDER HANDS]

16. wait, we're talking about Obama now?

and you're supporting Hillary, right?

I just want to check to see if we still on Earth now.

[Occam Bandage]

19. It's funny how the most rabid Hillary supporters always seem

to find that their problems with Obama are the exact same public-perception problems Hillary has. How strange. :eyes:

[never_get_over_it]

32. That is because there is REALLY NO DIFFERENCE

between the two period....

I don't like either one - but will vote for one of them in November....

[Occam Bandage]

7. 'sok. You're in the itty-bitty minority there.

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. If you live in a swing state especially

Count on me urging you to vote for Obama if he becomes our nominee.

[Faygo Kid]

11. "I doubt I am alone among Hillary supporters." You clearly are not.

You and your pals infest DU with your ceaseless posts like this.

[MoonRiver]

15. And with every post like yours, you make us more firm in our dislike of Obama.

I know you don't care, but your messiah, oops, I mean candidate, might. But then, again, maybe not.

[Occam Bandage]

20. I'm sure that right before that post, you were considering switching.

:crazy:

[Faygo Kid]

25. Pot calling kettle?

Works both ways, and you are spewing everywhere on DU today, aren't you?

[rucky]

12. Why are you telling us this? n/t

[Adelante]

13. I've lost respect for Hillary and Bill Clinton in the course of this campaign

It doesn't mean I won't vote for her in the GE if she is the nominee. I don't understand that thinking.

[UndergroundEcoHound]

17. Jesus...

I am so sick of this kind of sentiment whether from Obama or Hillary supporters. This is coming from someone who is relatively young and has been lumped into the "youth" group that some Hillary supporters have called "simple-minded". So all I can say is "grow up". Both sides have been less than fair towards the other, but both candidates would be loads better than McCain. Think about the Supreme Court, think about future environmental conditions, and think about the generations to come. We cannot afford to have another 4-8 years of Republican rule.

Get over it.

[JoePhilly]

18. Then you will be helping the Republicans ...

And if they win, you should sit quietly for next 4 to 8 years.

[Straight Shooter]

21. I want to address this issue of despising Barack.

For one thing, to me, he is the most insincere face of exploitation of every issue available to him under the sun. That's why Ted Kennedy has latched onto him, because he can mold him in his image if he dangles the right carrot under Barack's nose. People who vote for Barack will be voting for an ostensibly amiable curtain which hides a group of politicians and businessmen that will, for the most part, remain unseen, just as bush voters did.

Barack lost me with his "embracing" gays rhetoric and refusing to distance himself from McClurkin and Caldwell. george w. bush's minister, of all people, who runs a hateful "cure the gays" program.

I also dislike his silly campaign slogans which are puffy emotional rhetoric. "Hope and change" and "Yes we can" are similar to "Just do it" by Nike. The Barack brand is wearing my patience thin. george w. bush's campaign and his governance have consistently employed three-word sound bites, and now Barack is doing it.

However, that being said, a have a friend who is a real policy wonk. His advice to me is that Barack will "not be bad" as a president. He thinks Hillary is absolutely more qualified, particularly regarding foreign affairs, and although he regards the mania surrounding Barack as an abysmal reflection of the state of American politics (he's traveled worldwide, lived in several countries), he thinks that this is Axelrod's campaign ploy to make the voters fall in love with their candidate, because, as we all know, love is blind and sees only what it wants to see.

So, there you have it. I don't want to vote for Barack, either, because it will make me feel cheap to vote for someone I perceive as having manipulated the emotions of voters, as bush did, but the Supreme Court is at stake, and I'm not voting for myself, I'm voting for the next several generations of Americans, as well as the world. For the greater good, if he is the nominee, I'll vote for him. Then I'll say a prayer that he doesn't royally f*ck things up.

[MoonRiver]

22. My thoughts exactly.

I haven't said I will not vote for Obama if he is the nominee. It just seems kind of dirty to do so, considering the absolute disgust I feel for him.

I certainly will not campaign or contribute one cent to him however. So I guess I'll save a little chunk of change, and a whole lot of free time, if he wins. :D

[Straight Shooter]

26. On campaigning for Barack ...

Campaign for Barack the person? No. Campaign for Democratic positions? Yes.

[MoonRiver]

27. Well, I'm tallking about house parties and phone banking.

Both of which I did for Kerry.

[Straight Shooter]

33. I see.

I won't do either one of those, but I'll probably print flyers and distribute them, such as that. In other words, I'll do for him what he's done for the GLBT community ... the absolute minimum.

[Big Blue Marble]

23. Rock, you are entitled to your feelings about Obama.

Your vote is a personal matter. Non-voting is statement that you are entitled to make and still support your party.

You have the right to make this decision.

Many group-think folks around here and elsewhere will tell you to get in line and vote the top of the ticket.

You hear that the country is doomed;the party destroyed because you did not vote for the nominee.

Your feelings are relevant to you and that is what matters. You do not trust or can't stand Obama.


Then, and I am serious about this, do not vote for him. I disagree with your conclusions about Obama.

But I strongly support your right to not vote for him.

[MoonRiver]

24. Thank you for that.

My feelings right now, obviously may not reflect what I will feel next November. But there is going to have to be a huge amount of healing taking place, probably on both sides, for this party not to become seriously fractured.

It's a start to have an Obama supporter showing respect for my thoughts and feelings.

[mondo joe]

28. Concur. I think he'll get the nom so Ill have to vote for him, but it will be the most unhappy

vote I will have ever cast.

[never_get_over_it]

29. I don't like either of them

I've said this a million times - I use to despise Clinton - and feel nothing in particular about Obama - but since NH - and since DU has gone INSANE I have come to actually despise him and not actually despise Clinton as much - I have said in the past I didn't think I could vote for her in the general and I still would not vote for either in the primary.

AND I am getting so past sick of Obama supporters claiming there is some big difference on the Iraq issue - THERE IS NOT - the only way to judge that is their actual votes in the Senate when they were BOTH in the Senate period - and their votes are identical or nearly identical.....

That being said I WILL VOTE FOR WHOMEVER IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE AND YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IN NOVEMBER PERIOD and the reason is THE SUPREME COURT.

Justice Stevens is old and sick and hanging on by a thread
Ginsburg is sick and probably hanging on by a thread
IF we're lucky Scalia and Kennedy might go in the next 4 years because they are 72 but I doubt it


BUT HEAR ME OUT

Roberts - 53 years old clearly on their side
Alito - 59 years old clearly on their side
Thomas - already on the court for more than 10 years and only 60 and clearly on their side
Kennedy - 72 and almost as clearly on their side

IF a repunk gets to replace two of ours with two of theirs - THEY WILL FIND SOMEONE YOUNG and we could have a their side court for AT LEAST TWENTY FREAKING YEARS

The decisions the Supreme Court makes has TREMENDOUS impact on our lives - and once their on the court they are there for good - at LEAST with Congress and the Presidency we have a shot to change every 2, 4 or 6 years

PLEASE REMEMBER THIS IN NOVEMBER AND HOLD YOUR NOSE and VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE

I don't like it - it breaks my heart - but really there is nothing else we can do....

[Politicub]

30. It saddens then angers me when Obama's supporters use the same RW

talking points from 15 years ago.

[VolcanoJen]

31. I'm for Obama and I'm very, very glad I don't feel the way you do.

I harbor no animosity toward Hillary Clinton, and will be proud to pull the lever for her in November should she win the nomination.

A few weeks ago I was a little angrier, especially toward Bill's amplified role in the campaign, but those feelings have waned and I honestly believe she will make an excellent President.

But I'm still going to pull and work for Obama. :-)