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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:00 PM
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Can We Stop Fighting About Health Care, Wake Up
We're going to end up with something, IF, we end up with something, that will be weaker than BOTH Obama's and Clinton's plans.

It's going to go through the House and Senate first, and by the time it comes out, we won't even recognize it. People on both sides will hate it, but our leaders will praise and bestow greatness upon it because it "does something."

That's IF it happens at all. Which I doubt it will.

More than likely, we'll just end up with what the insurance companies wrote for us, minus a few nasty things to make it easier to swallow.


sorry to be a downer.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:03 PM
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1. It seems that many posters think Hil will issue and edict/exec order to garnish wages.
:crazy:


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:05 PM
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2. Mandates and tax credits are worth fighting over
A card in the mail is universal health care. 25% of US drivers don't have auto insuarnce. Mandates are bullshit and people need to quit pretending they're going to provide universal health care because they aren't.
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:05 PM
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3. Good Call...But this time around I think it will be stronger program..
Simply because more people care about the issue.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:28 PM
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4. The government need to mandate universal health care and pay for it.
Get the drug companies regulated again and the insurance companies out of the health care decision making business. Socialized medicine works in other parts of the world, why not here? Take the profit out of Health Care and we all will benefit.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:29 PM
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5. True...
it's stupid to argue about it right now.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:31 PM
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6. A LOT of people her want to argue about her "garnishment" or "tax" of their wages
and nothing is stupider than people who try to insert their talking point into our discussions.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:37 PM
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7. Here's a valid issue: folks without health insurance are clogging Emergency Rooms.
Let's just forget all about the monetary issues involved for the moment, which are huge.

Focus on the clogged Emergency Rooms. Focus on the uninsured bringing in colds and the flu, bringing in other communicable diseases, bacteria, and parasites into the Emergency Rooms for treatment at the free pseudo-primary health care provider.

Obama's plan fails to fix this.

Hillary's does.

This should be of deep concern.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:43 PM
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8. i love that code word-"garnishment."...
no wonder any plan has`t much of a chance to pass...
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:46 PM
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9. Its always all in how its *spun*. n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:49 PM
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10. Good point. It's more likely than not we'll get nothing from either
candidate unless we have a supermajority in the House and Senate. If the numbers are similar to the ones we currently have, it'll be filibuster, filibuster, filibuster.
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