If I knew Hillary was going to pick Wes Clark as her VP I might vote for her

[Quixote1818]

over Obama. Anyway, if Hillary wins and she picks Wes Clark, I won't feel so bad about things.

[bigtree]

1. smart

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4334440

[ronnykmarshall]

2. She is, now go vote for her.

Chi-Chi is watching! :silly:

[1corona4u]

6. Yeah, I kind of think she will too...

[jlake]

3. Then you're in good shape because she will pick Clark.

[neutron]

4. My guess is she will

And they will knock the shit out of Old Man McCain.

[Quixote1818]

7. Clark seems the logical fit going up against McCain. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

5. well, You know Obama won't --

right?

[Quixote1818]

11. If I were Obama and going up against McCain, I would want someone like Clark

but I don't know if Clark would take it. I also don't know if they have a close enough relationship for Obama to ask him.

What are your thoughts?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

12. I agree that Clark is an asset against McCain, however I would

be surprised if Obama asked him. I think, if asked by Obama, Clark would accept. I could be way off base on that.

[Adelante]

27. Clark advised Obama earlier last year

So they do have a relationship. I think Wes is ready to serve the country again and will accept a place on the ticket whoever is the nominee. They are two grown men and not going to be petty when it comes to what is best for the country. Barack knows bringing the troops out of Iraq is going to take a military mind, one with deep insight into the Pentagon and defense establishment, as well as familiarity with the force structure, and who can deal effectively with foreign nations. It's the biggest thing that will have to be done the soonest: bringing the troops out of Iraq. He'll have to have a heavy duty point man in the house. He also knows he needs national security weight on the ticket. My personal feeling is Barack needs Wes more than Hillary does, because she's already got a former commander in chief in the family. I don't see her picking Wes for VP. Maybe she will, but somehow I don't see it happening.

[Wesin04]

28. Obama says out of Iraq now

Wes knows that there is a lot of groundwork to be done first. He's been saying loudly and clearly for a long time that regional diplomacy, with everyone in the region not just the "friendlies", is a must before we just head home and leave the country in chaos. Hard to see how they would reconcile their differences in withdrawal.

[Adelante]

36. Hillary says out in one year - Barack says 16 months

There's not a lot Wes would have to adjust to between the two.

[Rene]

8. Wes Clark has been right by her side thru all of this campaign.

I agree.....GREAT VP choice. Bill Richardson for Secretary of State

[rodeodance]

24. yes, and I think there is a strong chance she will pick him.

[featherman]

9. Gen Clark would be a good choice for Obama if he gets it

Note: I know that Clark is a Clinton supporter in the primary but as a good Democrat he would accept the offer easily. This is how these things work.

[BooScout]

10. Great! We welcome your vote....

Because she IS going to pick Clark.

[libbygurl]

13. Hey, that would really work...but what do you (and others on this thread, too) base that on ?

[Quixote1818]

14. Clark would neutralize McCain the war hero against Hillary the cut and runner

which is how McCain is going to run against Hillary or Obama. If Wes Clark is on the ticket you have a 4 Star General who won the war in Bosnia without losing one American riping McCain about not knowing what the hell he is doing and that he is just another George Bush.

The Clinton's and Clark go way back. They are all from Arkansas and the really get along.

The way Wes Clark Jr. has gone after Edwards and Obama, my guess is that he knows his dad is in the drivers seat for VP.

[libbygurl]

20. Oops, I see that, but what I meant to ask was how you know HRC will pick Wes Clark for VP? nt

[onehandle]

15. I think she will.

I think that's why he quit his commentator position and why he's been relatively low profile for the last few months.

[TwilightGardener]

16. How much influence do you really think Clark is going to have

between her and Bill? I agree he's her best choice, but why would anyone want that slot? He'll never be President, either--will be too old in 2016.

[Wesin04]

18. Bill respects Wes Clark

I don't see any problems with that. As for Clark running for president, his primary concern is getting our country back to where it needs to be and should be, not whether this would set him up for a run.

[Wesin04]

17. Would be an excellent choice

They work well together and respect one another. Wes Clark would be a great complement to Hillary and would know just how to take McCain on. I hope she will seriously consider him as her running mate.:patriot:

[tokenlib]

19. Two's company, three's a crowd...

After Bill and Hill suck up the oxygen in a room--how much is left for a VP candidate??

Not much..just ask Al Gore....

[Texas_Kat]

31. There's so much to clean up... there's plenty of work for the VP to do

Clinton has obviously been listening to Clark and he's been her most visible surrogate on the trail.

If you think it's all about who gets 'credit' for getting the country back on track, as opposed to actually accomplishing the job, you're more into the "It's all about ME!" brand of politics than Clark is.

[Captain Hilts]

21. She definitely will have him in the cabinet or as VP. Bank on it. nt

[Adelante]

22. I think Wes has equal chances with either Hillary or Barack

He will be on the short list of both, already is, I would think.

[Mz Pip]

23. I don't believe it

for a second. I was a Wes supporter in 2004 and really like him but I don't believe Clinton will pick him for VP.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Tom Rinaldo]

29. I don't know for certain, but I am confident she will seriously entertain that thought

There are very few potential VP picks that can strengthen Hillary against attacks from the Right while also winning her some good will with many progressives, Wes Clark is one of them. Plus she knows and trusts Clark - she knows what he is capable of, she knows he can lead the nation if anything god forbid ever happened to her, and she knows how hard he is willing to work for America while not doing anything intentionally or even unintentionally to undercut her as Commander in Chief. It is a good match and Hillary is a good enough politician to see that Clark has a patriotic appeal that would serve her well against McCain.

[rodeodance]

25. She needs your primary vote in order for her to pick Wes.

[Quixote1818]

30. It's interesting

I have been for Edwards and Obama all this time but I vote in two days. I am thinking about things I haven't thought about in a long time and have moved from Obama for sure to being on the fence. I guess that is the natural process that occurs when you really do have to prepare to vote. It becomes real and you know you have to do the right thing.

[rodeodance]

34. how ture, how true. I thought a lot of the health plans and eviroment--more than

I before.
I like clintons Green energy plan --for job creation, our health, our planets health --and economics--for me, it is the right fight.

[OKNancy]

26. Logical choice. He has worked as a subordinate

and understands all about that aspect, even though he was a general.
Bill likes and respects him. Only drawback is geographical, but
that's not much these days.

[ForRusty]

32. I called that VP pick as soon as I saw him behind her in Iowa. nt

[David Zephyr]

33. I think they suckered Wes into thinking he'd be the VP to keep him out of the race...

and now they've pulled that rug out from under him.

That's the thing that gnaws at me: betrayal of loyal friends is the hallmark of the Clintons political history. It was the entire premise of the book Primary Colors which was a thinly veiled story about the couple and how they betrayed. Certainly, David Mixner wrote how he was betrayed by them. Dr. Joycelyn Elders experienced it. Mike Espy experienced it. Lani Guinier experienced it. Marian Wright Edelman experienced it. The list of loyal friends and supporters being thrown overboard, and the list of promises broken for political expediency simply troubles me very much.

I think they did the same thing to Wes Clark who should have run for President. What did they promise him not to? And where is Wes these days? I've certainly noticed he is not as visible as he once was on television championing their cause. Perhaps, he's figured out that he may be in that long line of discarded individuals who were used. Used.

The Clintons want to pick Richardson for VP because not only is he an old friend and Latino, but would never overshadow her the way Obama would.

However, the reality is now that the Clintons -- - should they be victorious which is looking not so probable with all the new polls out today --- must pick Obama or have an insurrection at the nationally televised convention. Obama will have a convention full of loyal delegates in Denver who will not be snubbed.

[Texas_Kat]

37. You win the most obnoxious post of the day award

If you knew anything about Clark, you'd know that he doesn't make choices based on 'what's in it for him'. So you take Joe Klein's word for gospel, huh? Guess that explains a lot about your thought processes. He believes she is the right candidate for the Presidency.

Clinton would be foolish to promise him anything -- Wes would be foolish to accept. No one has ever accused Wes of being a fool -- at least till now.

[David Zephyr]

38. Where's Wes?

Why has he disappeared? Odd, huh?

[FrenchieCat]

35. Vote for Obama, and Wes will be his VP........

Wes Clark ain't married to Hillary. If Obama needs him, Wes Clark will be certain to answer the call of duty.

Hillary and Bill do everything that only benefits them. If it means making a few promises and then throwing a few folks under the bus as the consequences, so be it. I don't remember Hillary endorsing Wes Clark in 2004, when that could have been of major help to his campaign....so I"m sure that whatever Hillary has in mind, it won't be about anything else other than what will advance Hillary future.