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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:31 PM
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From a strategic sense which candidate is more likely to unite the Rs?
Obama

or

Hillary
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:32 PM
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1. Hillary
They will come out in droves to vote against her.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:33 PM
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2. On this...
there is no doubt.
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:36 PM
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5. Obama actually pulls moderate Repubs while scoring high with Independents.
Overall it would be better for our nation to have a president that creates a wider base of support instead of yet another in a long line of divisive figures who hardens the lines between right and left leaving very little space in the middle.
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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:34 PM
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Senator Clinton
may not be her fault, but it's the truth.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:34 PM
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3. Hillary. If anything can bring that party together, it will be mutual hatred of her.
I am not looking forward to months of rehashing the 90s if she's the nominee. Id' rather have a hot poker stuck in my eye.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:35 PM
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4. Neither, the Republicans are a mess
Hillary and Obama don't figure into their problems. If it's Hillary, the neocons would try to use her as a device to rebuild their movement, and that would lead to huge battle especially since McCain is not neocon. If it's Obama, the Republicans will be struggling so hard to be racist and divisive without appearing racist and divisive that they'll make a mess of things.
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:38 PM
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6. Wishful thinking
I have not yet met a Republican who didn't just dislike Hil but despised her.

Look at 2000, Bush a bumbling idiot who was basically campaigning against peace and prosperity was able to win (cheated) a close election by running against a former member of the Clinton machine.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:43 PM
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8. Actually, now that I think about it, Obama could be a better rallying point for Rs
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 01:43 PM by Onlooker
Obama is definitely more liberal than Hillary, which I why I support him. But, it would probably be better for the Republicans to try to rally around the anti-liberal mentality than to rally around anti Clinton sentiment.

The Clinton haters aren't going to vote for Obama. They might try to sound more reasonable, but even now you can tell that's their lie. At any rate, I think Obama has the campaign organization to defeat McCain or Romney, and Clinton does not.
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:59 PM
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11. I think your analysis is off base
Obama consistently polls much better among moderate Rs and Independents.

Hil's unfavorability ratings among these groups are very high.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:40 PM
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7. My republican bosses HATE her...
while Obama they don't even mention. What does that say?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:48 PM
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9. I don't think ANY candidate can unite them. If McCain gets the nom,
Cheney is gonna have to rally his rightwing cretins, like Rush, and order them to GOTV for the sake of the party. But there's just no "enthusiasm."

As far as the Dem choices go, I think the rabid right hate both candidates. The wimmen-haters, the racists, they probably are on that GOP team in fairly equal numbers.

I think they are demoralized, though, those Republicans. They may just stay home and get drunk. Fine with me!
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:57 PM
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10. If the Repukes have shown anything they have shown that they will close ranks
for a win.

See: GWB, Arnold, even Lieberman who won with heavy republican support
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:37 PM
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14. Arnold and Holy Joe won because DEMOCRATS crossed over.
They also got Indys. Those two aren't representative of the dynamic at all.

GWB is closer to the mark, but even GWB got some D fools, as well.

Not as many as the first two, though.

But Arnold got Dems in a big way. So did Holy Joe--the GOP candidate got almost no votes in that contest.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:00 PM
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12. I bet Dem Candidates for Congress want Obama to win the nomination
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:05 PM
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13. Obama's coatails will be prodigous, Hil's meh no so much.
nm
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