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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:26 PM
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NEW California Poll: Clinton 45 Obama 36 PDF link with DEM & INDEP data
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 02:53 PM by goldcanyonaz
CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATS

Clinton, 45 percent; Obama, 36 percent; undecided, 16 percent.

Here they split the white vote. He leads better than 4-1 among blacks, and she leads 4-1 among Hispanics. There are more Hispanics than blacks, so she has the edge.

"He'll get some Chablis-sipping liberals up north, and blacks down south,' Coker said. "Her trump card is the Hispanic vote."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/26342.html

Poll data pdf

http://media.mcclatchydc.com/static/pdf/poll/020308cadem.pdf

ETA changed title to show it's not just Dems who were polled.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:27 PM
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1. I have no friggen clue whats going on in Cali.
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Timmy5835 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:28 PM
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2. No kidding
Neither do we Californians.
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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:29 PM
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3. the one thing that these polls have in common
is that they all have a large number of undecideds. Who knows whats going to happen.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oNRs0RM3EEE
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:30 PM
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4. interesting, but not indicative as it only polls dems and it's an
open primary.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:30 PM
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5. Someone on MTP said today that any poll coming out of CA that
does not add up to 90% 2 days before Super Tues is a bunch of caca.

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:31 PM
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6. That's only among Dems, though, and CA is open.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:48 PM
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11. It shows Independents in the PDF
I read the attached PDF and they breakdown according to Dem or Indy
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:53 PM
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16. No, CA is for the most part closed...
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 03:03 PM by tandem5
on edit: yes, I guess independents may vote in the democratic but not the republican - and republicans and democrats cannot cross-vote.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:33 PM
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7. If Obama wins Dems, Indies and Republicans, it'll be a clean sweep on Tuesday.
This poll is very good news for Obama since the race is still fluid on the Democratic side, and Clinton does well with registered Democrats.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:41 PM
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8. This poll only shows Dems and doesn't factor in Indies
and CA is an OPEN Primary. Most other polls show a statstical dead heat with either Clinton or Obama in the slight lead.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:50 PM
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13. Umm...No it shows indepedents.
http://media.mcclatchydc.com/static/pdf/poll/020308cadem.pdf

Hillary leads by 16 among Dems and loses by 31 among indepedents.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:43 PM
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9. I think Hillary spending so much time there is all the sign you need
Considering Monday she had a 15 point lead there
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:49 PM
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12. Could be just trying to clinch it right there. A big win buries him.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:52 PM
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15. More like the internals, are showing trouble
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:46 PM
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10. In addition to the nature of the CA primary
Polls don't poll people with cellphones. Youth vote? Uh huh. Gobama :bounce:

His candidacy would survive a loss in CA... would your CEO's?
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JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:51 PM
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14. Anti-Hillary cross-over votes ...
Same as Iowa -- sadly they won't be there for Obama in the general ...
Those same folks will all re-register as republicans and BO will be left out on the limb
looking like a complete failure and everyone will be wondering how IA, SC, CA and the rest
all went to McCain ???? You can't make this stuff up ... it's so transparent it's laughable.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:54 PM
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17. Just how do you know this? You don't.
You are speculating based on absolutely nothing. A certain number of people who voted for him in the primaries won't vote for him in the general should he be the nominee, but it's utterly ridiculous to claim it's true of ALL of them. In fact, it's unlikely to be more a small minority of them. Most people simply do not bother to go vote for the opposing side in a primary in order to get the nominee they supposedly want to run against. If you have any evidence to the contrary, please post it.
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JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:46 PM
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18. All I can offer is ...
watch and see what happens - providing BO gets the nomination ...

No way under the sun IA, fer example, being 97% white and already a republican state, will go blue for a black person that by then, will be perceived as a muslum and solidly connected (perception at least) to Rezko, and vetted by FOX, CNN and MSNBC -- especiallty his record on gun control ... the NRA by themselves will sink him. It's laughable.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:05 PM
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19. Kick!
:kick:
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