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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:30 PM
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What's the Matter with Democrats? Tribalism!
(random interviewee) indicated that to young people, "change" means less a shift in priorities than the end of a political era marked by qualities - confrontation, self-righteousness, the struggle for reccognition - that many associate with baby boomers. (note this is editorializing, not quotation)

- Peter S. Canellos "Young voters resist politics of baby boom era", Boston Sunday Globe, February 3, 2008.


Obama's failure to connect effectively with Latinos is driven less by historical tensions between black and Latino communities than by the fact that Latinos know and like Clinton and have had little contact with the Illinois senator.

- Susan Milligan, "Latinos poised for key role in primaries", Boston Sunday Globe, February 3, 2008.


Gee, how many fights can the media start? Young vs. old; blacks vs. Latinos; black women vs. black men. Come the elections, its going to look like Kenya around here.

These two stories were the major political stories in the Globe today. What a bunch of irrelevant, spun, horseshit. "Let's you and him fight." Remember when political reporters used to cover issues and platforms instead of personalities and insults? Apparently not many do. They've spent too much time watching Survivor.

Great, Mr. Canellos. Let's not confront the crooked, murderous regime of George W. Bush. Forget about all the hypocritical, self-righteous moralizing of the GOP and the lunatic religious right. Let's not recognize that a class war is raging in America.

There is no way to deal with this toxic media garbage except to avoid it. But, the majority of voters seem to be buying into this tribalism. Vote for a woman, ignore her policies. Vote for a black man, ignore his policies. Vote for the man or woman my tribe supports.

American politics has been reduced to high school taunting and being with the "in crowd". The majority remain resolutely unaware that unless someone undoes what Bush has done, the Constitution is over - we already have an executive dictatorship. The majority remain unaware that we are already bankrupt and that the current "rescue package" is throwing a boat anchor to a drowning man.

I'd love to hear from fanatic supporters of candidates that they do recognize the perils of this kind of polarizing politics. Have you read this article?

But this isn't 1992 - or 1988, or 1984. A better year for Democrats to remember is 1968. Lyndon Johnson, who led an unpopular war, was forced to resign after Eugene McCarthy ran a surprisingly strong second in New Hampshire. Soon the party found itself choosing between Humphrey - seen by many as a representative of "old style" politics - the insurgent but cerebral McCarthy, and Bobby Kennedy (whose candidacy many McCarthy supporters initially viewed as a betrayal.

Humphrey, McCarthy, and Kennedy were viewed by their advocates as more than just politicians. Supporters saw them as extensions of themselves, a reflection of their own personalities, values, and beliefs. Humphrey seemed to be the avatar of traditional Democratic experience (and courage, too, back when he faced down the Dixiecrats and Strom Thurmond at a 1948 convention. That was before the young activists' time, giving some older Democrats one more reason to be irritated with them.)

- RJ Eskow, "Warning: This Party May Self-Destruct in Ten Months"http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print/12571/


Right now, its a pretty dark night in the Democratic Party. All I can hear is the sound of tribal drums.

arendt

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:32 PM
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1. A thread that might address this subject
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:32 PM
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2. Zinger?
LOL
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:19 PM
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3. Let's try this again. Kick n/t
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:28 PM
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4. Write about Hillary's hairstyle or Obama's suit
That'll keep it to the top....




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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:29 PM
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5. Ir's what happens when an entitlement establishment candidate feels her place threatened...
and her minions chime in.
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:40 PM
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6. This begs the question why there are so many minions, and why they know zero about policy...
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 09:04 PM by arendt
as the absurd WaPo article about "millenarians" demonstrates, its all about picking a side in a school yard fight.

Actually thinking about policies is considered trivial or "self-righteous". The populace has been so de-politicized that all we are left with is identity politics on steroids. Why, why, why are we barely mentioning the massive deficits, the obscene amount of money be spent by the military to accomplish nothing more than to blacken our name, the total dismemberment of the Separation of Powers (and the total cave-in to that by the Democratic leadership).

I am so sick of this worthless horserace/American Idol campaigning and coverage that I just want to pull the plug.

This isn't politics, its Entertainment Tonight.

arendt
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:08 PM
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8. If it really were about the issues, I believe there'd be a lot more agreement
If we could somehow strip away policies, messages and values away from candidates and images, I honestly believe most Americans would probably agree on the basics of a true reform agenda.

Sure there are ultra conservatives who would oppose things out of a basic mistrust of government.

But, a true wide-spectrum majority would actually support progressive policies and goals, as evidenced by the protective instincts most people have about Social Security, Medicare, minimum wages, etc.

One example of that is in the 04 election, when a couple of states that voted for Bush also voted for a higgher minimum wage.
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:13 PM
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9. Yeah, it all comes back to policies vs. personalities...
> a true wide-spectrum majority would actually support progressive policies and goals

Exactly. The Dems could blow the GOP away if they stuck to that platform. Instead, they are busy forming up into a circular firing squad and handing the election to the GOP. The media has done its job well. Don't cover the issues; cover the personalities. Foment conflict among the Dems; give the GOP a free pass. Don't mention how Rudy fell on his face. Don't mention that Huckabee is a whackjob. But, cover every non-insult that ever didn't happen between HRC and BO.

America continues to get the government it deserves.

arendt
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:03 PM
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7. kick n/t
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