Obama is planning on letting the Republicons...

[butterfly77]

get away with all of the dirt they have perpertrated on this country. He was on face the nation talking about how he wants to get along and work together and this is where there con game will begin. If he thinks that they will play fair he has another thing coming. Have they been watching what has been going on all of these years? He I believe is really republicon light...Notice all of the republicons who have been jumping on board, what is he promising them...

[ClassWarrior]

1. I believe he's talking about getting along and working together with...

...the citizens who vote Rape-Publican. That's very different than working to defeat the Rape-Publican Establishment that has made its mission to divide America's citizens for decades.

NGU.

[Evergreen Emerald]

10. yeah. The same speech Pelosi gave. Look where it got her.

[ClassWarrior]

12. So tell me how Sen. Clinton is going to stand up to the Rape-Publicans? Like she did...

...when she fought tooth and nail against the Blank Check for Invasion of Iraq?

:eyes:

NGU.

[Evergreen Emerald]

15. Do you honestly think Obama will have it easier? Give me a break

Their goal is power. They had the opportunity to do the right thing when America voted in the dems. And they did not. They stuck to Bush and the neo-con agenda. You think they will suddenly change because Obama has perrty words?

It is not going to happen. We need a democratically controlled Congress to get the job done. Or we will have more years with the congress doing everything they can to obstruct change.

And look, today at the posts on healthcare. People don't want change. They are in a tissy cause they might have to pay for some of the changes.

Good God. ITS NOT CLINTON'S FAULT.

Get a grip.

[ClassWarrior]

20. You underestimate the value of "perrty words" at your own peril. Of course...

...the educated amongst us like to call it something different:

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http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/aboutus

:shrug:

NGU.

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. Pelosi had perrty words too.

It got us no where. They don't want to cooperate. Look at who the republicans are electing: "100 years in Iraq" McCAin.

He may well get elected with his perrty words. The world is ready to be rid of Bush and are willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

But he will not be able to do anything more than Clinton could--in fact, I believe he has not the experience or talent to do much at all.

[ClassWarrior]

27. There's no arguing against one-dimensional thinking.

:shrug:

NGU.

[Evergreen Emerald]

29. right back at cha.

edit so I don't get tombstoned.

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[Metric System]

18. WTF's wrong with you posting the same crap in every thread? You're nothing but a spammer.

[Middle finga]

3. I really don't think he or Clinton will hold them accountable,

the democratic congress didn't do it, unfortunately I don't think a democratic president will do it either.

[Indenturedebtor]

6. Yeah I think that

Only Kucinich would have done so... Truly though we'll be better off with the sort of Transparency proposals he has put forward... keep it from happening again.

[mitchtv]

4. That's why I don't trust him

I'm afraid he'll giveaway the store. That and his position(s) on Nuclear power, which is a deal breaker for me.

[butterfly77]

7. Exactly.

[cali]

5. links please to where Obama has said that.

you folks are really getting frantic. You need a diaper change; there's so much poop in your little panties. Calm the fuck down.

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. I asked him this specific question MYSELF. He is my Senator and he said he would NOT

waste time investigating these thugs. He wants to "move the country forward and stop the political bickering." You know the rhetoric. It's all he says.

[butterfly77]

11. Didn't I say on FACE THE NATION...

who in the hell are you telling to calm down you cry baby, hopeful, brainwashed, Obamites. Somebody
needs to slap the shit out of you so that you can get your head out of the clouds. The republicons are not going to let him do anything unless they tell him he can...

[cali]

24. lol.

he did not say what you put in your OP. You're pulling that out of your ass, and you're pathetically desperate. My head's not in the clouds, pookie. I have no illusions that Obama is some kind of enlightened being or without flaw. I'm fully aware that he's a politician and that he plays politics and makes decisions I disagree with- sometimes strongly.

You really are ignorant. Whoever is elected in Nov- and I firmly believe it'll be the dem nominee, will have a very dem Congress to work with. Dems will pick up at least 5 Senate seats and 10+ House seats. In the Senate, they'll pick up VA,NM, NH, MN and CO. In the House they'll pick up Shays' seat in CT, Reynolds in NY, Davis in VA, Wilson in NM and several others. If you actually knew what the fuck you were talking about, you'd know this stuff.

[butterfly77]

28. Who will they be..

some of the same type of blue dog Dems who have let bush get away with all of his crimes.

[Radical Activist]

9. That's a very shallow take on it.

If Obama reaches his hand out in cooperation to the Republicans then what happens? Maybe he gets the 2 or 3 Republicans he'll need in the Senate to reach 60 votes. Can you tell me how Hillary is going to accomplish anything with support from only Democrats if we have less than 60 seats in the Senate?

And if no Republicans support his plans once in a while then the worst thing that happens is that Obama looks like the good guy and the public blames Republicans for being nasty obstructionists. Its a win-win for Democrats and it doesn't mean giving in to their agenda.

[Middle finga]

19. good point

[thoughtcrime1984]

13. Keep attacking, Hillary fans, you won't win hearts and minds that way! nt

[cooolandrew]

14. He's simply not demonising them. They disagree with his policy but like the man.

[butterfly77]

16. He's talking all of this unity..

doesn't he realize who he is dealing with, these evil bastards will shake hands with him while they are sticking the knife in his back... He hasn't learned a damn thing about these people! He will probably be choosing a republicon for his running mate,if he gets the nomination...

[thevoiceofreason]

17. Bullhockey

Teddy Roosevlt didn't go after the big trusts -- hell, they were his big backers. What he DID do was get an attorney general with big brass ones (can you say Edwards) to chase 'em down.

[Azathoth]

21. So because he isn't promising partisan trench warfare...

Never mind.

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. Ah...so you don't care that CRIMINALS within our government will go free.

Figures.

[Azathoth]

25. *chuckle* You think Hillary is going to lock up Republicans?

Man, do I have some beachfront property in Kansas to sell you.

[Duke Newcombe]

30. Unless you engage in "partisan trench warfare"...

...you're ineffective in these parts...or "caving in".

Didn't you get the e-mail? :sarcasm:

Duke

[Tennessee Gal]

26. Someone needs to come to grips with reality.

Republicans have done nothing but practice divisive politics for decades. It will take more than soaring rhetoric and pleas for unity to break that and accomplish what this country needs.

[butterfly77]

32. Its republiCONS...

something which Obama doesn't seem to get...

[no name no slogan]

31. And he told you all this, huh?

Wow, you must be really close.

Unless you're just mindreading. In that case, nevermind.

[Gloria]

33. What a nauseating spectacle....the last couple of years have been

lousy..and now there is now choice at all.

UGH to both of them, O and H.