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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:59 PM
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I hear over and over that if you don't have health care
You get your health care free from the Emergency room.

Now i am just wondering in who's freaking world is that? I have never been to an emergency room where I wasn't handed a bill afterwords. And those bills in my younger days dogged me everywhere I went.

Is it standard practice in your ER to let you walk out without a bill when you go?
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:01 PM
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1. I have never understood this either...
In Bush's world, maybe...
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:02 PM
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2. That is in Karl Rove world
And I think they give out free oxycontin too.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:03 PM
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3. My world.
I was poor and I ended up there with a broken bone. Sure, they hand you a bill for over a thousand. Doesn't mean you can pay it. So it goes to collections, where it does nothing but multiply into many thousands, and you can't pay that. In the end you just accept the bad credit record, know that once you bad credit, there's nothing to lose in going again if you have to. My best freind went through the same thing. Some people can pay the $1000, most can't pay the $40,000 that comes from a serious accident. That's where they really get screwed.
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:04 PM
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5. This is why health insurance should be mandatory.....
No one would ever be caught owing 40,000 for an accident because they opted out of coverage.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:17 PM
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9. That's only the beginning...
The real thing is that all I had in that incident was a broken collar bone. It was sticking up strait into the skin. If I had a doctor, I would have been able to wait a couple days to see him, because all broken collarbone's need even when they are that bad is to be put in a sling, they heal themselves (I found out). All the ER did is refer me to a doctor, who I paid something like $50 strait to for his advice. But the ER has to charge $1000 because of the type of care they must be prepared to give...They do intensive care.

So repeat this story thousands and thousands of times. Poor people have to go to ERs because they either have no doctor, or things have gotten so bad because they have no doctor, and because of the ER's setup, this costs literally 20 times what it would cost if people could just go strait to doctors.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:03 PM
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4. It's not true at all.
And I don't know why conservatives get away with saying it repeatedly.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:24 PM
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11. I don't know why either- or why Dem's have adopted it-
It is disingenuous at best.

peace~
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:05 PM
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6. Bill, yes.... payment? no
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:07 PM
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7. But if you can't pay it
And you own a house plan on a lien and possibly losing your house.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:09 PM
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8. Your fellow DUers are trying to help you by forcing you to buy insurance you can't afford
According to them the uninsured are deadbeats and free riders on the system. I'm guessing most of these DUers have insurance through their employers and have never checked what rates for individual coverage would be. Mine would be over $500 a month for just me.

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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:21 PM
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10. maybe we're sick & tired of paying for everyone who choses not to get insurance
My insurance has gone up 300% in 10 years
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:28 PM
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12. You watch to much FOX News
Blame the people who don't have health insurance, there's the ticket.

The real reason is because repugs allowed drug companies to rape the sick person.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:33 PM
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15. And this is, of course, the fault of working people who can't afford insurance
Not the greedy corporations that make record profits year after year.

Obviously the answer is to force more people to give them money.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:58 PM
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20. thanks
Keep speaking the truth. Your efforts do not go unnoticed or unappreciated.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:29 PM
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13. How can anyone afford not to have insurance. That said the insurance should
be guaranteed by the government and paid by taxes or by employer. No more insurance companies in the health dept. field...they can stay rich with homeowners and cars.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:34 PM
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16. The gambling industry should not be involved in our healthcare.
We don't buy police and fire insurance. We don't buy public school insurance. We don't take out insurance policies for roads and infrastructure. We pay taxes and those things are provided as necessities of a functioning society.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:30 PM
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14. The trick is, you don't pay it
and when they call you at home, pretend you don't speak English.

Works every time. That's how I got this new botox and liposuction job for nothing.

Suckers.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:36 PM
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17. You damn plastic surgery free riders! nt
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:40 PM
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18. Sorry, understand no. Me English speak do not I.
Glad I didn't mention my bewb job.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:44 PM
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19. That's George Bush's world. You get a bill. Usually a giant bill. nt
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