Hillypoo better hope she locks up the nom on Tuesday

[The Delegates]

Because if she doesn't and Obama seizes on her desire to steal our wages, she is screwed.

You never ever ever ever ever ever mention that you're going to garnish wages while you're still running for President. Sure, once you become President. But not while you're trying to win hearts and minds.

I'd call this her Dean Scream, but even Dean wasn't stupid enough to talk about stealing wages from hard working Americans.

No way in hell JE endorses her now.

Because I don't think John Edwards supports being a thief.

[tekisui]

1. It just adds to the momentum Obama has. There is simply no way she

will lock it up on Tuesday.

[The Delegates]

3. Exactly

And Obama will seize on her desire to garnish wages and poof...watch any lead she had in Texas and Ohio go bye bye.

[Maddy McCall]

2. I'm going to agree with Monkeyfunk.

No one has 40 interesting thoughts a day.

[Tarc]

4. Sure am getting sick of all this FReeperesque "hands off MY money" bullshit

Whatever happened to the idea of putting money into a collective system to the benefit of all and not just yourself? Heard of a tiny gov't program called Social Security?

Team Obama is turning into a pack of craven, selfish Reaganites before our very eyes.

[The Delegates]

7. KEEP YOUR HANDS OUT OF MY POCKET

THIEF

[MethuenProgressive]

12. "apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it"

Freepers hate that kind of truth.

[The Delegates]

13. Wages aren't the only thing she'll steal

What happens when there is no more gold left up there?

[yardwork]

47. Worthy of a freeper. You are in the wrong forum. We support Democrats here.

Take your photoshopped crap and peddle it somewhere else. The Obama camp doesn't want you either.

[hedgehog]

11. Asked and answered: Social Security IS a government program which means

it belongs to us! Ms. Hillary is proposing that the governmnet be used to make sure we all buy private insurance.

[lvx35]

15. For 88th time today, that's a lie.

You can by government OR private.

[Tarc]

16. Makes no difference whatsoever

Keep spinning it, Reaganite.

[lvx35]

17. That's exactly what it is. Are there real Democrats here?

If they are actually going to stand here bitching about the government taking money from people to pay for healthcare, than there is no healthcare reform coming period. It costs money, all of it does. All those great European single payer systems are paid for by higher taxes. Simple Truth.

[knight_of_the_star]

18. There is a difference between single-payer

And forcing people to buy insurance and threatening to garnish their wages if they can't.

[Tarc]

19. Your wages are being garnished right now

Social Security
Medicare
etc...

How much bitching are you doing about it? I suspect the answer begins with Z and ends in "ero".

[Jed Dilligan]

43. What a red herring

Shame on you for claiming regressive taxes are the same as progressive taxes.

[Tarc]

50. Shame on you for trying to take part in an adult discussion

If universal heath care is something that people want, then something like this is going to be needed to pay for it. You think the Euro health care systems operate on aether and goodwill?

[Jed Dilligan]

55. They operate on progressive taxes, not premiums being forced on people.

[never_get_over_it]

56. Please please I beg you

don't try to confuse these people with the facts - what do you think they have some critical thinking skills that they might apply to this issue? Man what were you thinking....

these brain dead idiots in their exuberance for one candidate over the other have checked their brains at the door or never had one

You're exactly right social security is a wage garnishment - medicare - friggin pay roll taxes - oh and even if you pay part of your healthcare premiums through your own employer -

we'll never get to universal healthcare if everyone doesn't play/pay - even under Dennis Kucinich single payer plan which basically opens up Medicare to all - our wages would be "garnished" you know under medicare but the bottom line is eventually it will be cheaper and available to all

oh but I forgot one would have to use their friggin brain to figure that out - and there is a big fat shortage of that around here lately

and I'm not even a Clinton supporter - wake up people and think before you start "shooting" off your "mouths"

[creeksneakers2]

24. No, there isn't

Under single payer everybody has to kick in too.

[Thrill]

5. Keep your nasty hands out of our pockets Hillary

[annie1]

6. She's gonna steal your wages? zomg! this column on my w2 called SSI is stealing mine too!...

and this SUI/SDI! omg, i'm going straight to the police! OMG. What is this federal income tax crap! that's bullshit! i'm gonna become a FREEMAN supporter and get my guns ready for any fed thinks he's gonna come steal my wages.

[Lucinda]

8. Obamas plan mandates coverage for children

Guess he's screwed too.

[frankenforpres]

9. SS steals wages, i guess

go to freerepublic with this bullshit, theyll love you there

[JFKgirl]

10. her healthcare plan is basically theft

[golddigger]

14. So is Obama's...n/t

[Tarc]

20. Is Social Security theft?

[rodeodance]

21. oh gawd--ANOTHER obamababy gone crazy--and there have been lots doing so today.

[HughMoran]

22. Wow

Lot's of posts in your short time here. Relax, have a coffee :donut:

"stealing" wages? perhaps the most moronic thing I've read all day.

[creeksneakers2]

23. John Edwards was for mandates too

And so is Obama when he's cornered with the facts. Mandates mean people have to be forced to pay. There is no pleasant way to do that.

Leaving the necessity of mandates until after the election would doom the whole plan. Universal health care without mandates cannot work. There will be no way to get mandates passed without approval by the public in an election.

[tandot]

25. Hillypoo??? How old are you? Ten?

Go back watching the cartoon network

[yardwork]

45. Their behavior really solidifies my support of Hillary Clinton.

Hillary's not perfect, but geez, I can't even imagine the country being run by the types of people working for the Obama campaign.

[Jai4WKC08]

26. Hey, let's all vote for Ron Paul!

He'll do away with the IRS all together.

No one stealin' my wages. Uh-uh. No way.

:sarcasm:

[BootinUp]

30. PAUL PAUL!!!

:rofl:

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. Not to worry. She will. And soon all the garbage on Barack will come out

and he will be finished. It's only a matter of time.

[The Delegates]

28. Proof you don't know what you're talking about

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4350508

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. Bwahahahahahaha! That's PROOF of NOTHING. That's just wishful thinking on your part.

Obama will NOT win this election.

[mwb970]

29. What Obama garbage?? /nt

[Evergreen Emerald]

31. This post is an example of what is happening in America

No one is listening to anything but the lies and distortions. This lie, has been debunked all day, and still people post it in outrage. They likely know that it is not true, but the train has left the station and there is no stopping it--even for a reality check.

DAng shame. That is what happened to Gore and Kerry. They were railroaded by lies.

[CyberPieHole]

32. But what does Barack Hussein Obama have to say about it?

[Metric System]

49. He's too busy practicing his lines to comment.

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! ONLY people who CAN afford health care will have their wages garnished!

Listen...you either want a NEW Health Care plan for EVERYONE or you don't! I DO! It's about damn time the wealthiest country in the WORLD joins the rest of them in the real world and provides Health Care.

Stop fucking whining. It's better than nothing for MOST American citizens and it's sure as hell is better for the 50 MILLION who have NO INSURANCE!

[zulchzulu]

36. Individual mandates on healthcare insurance is a guaranteed poison pill

There is absolutely NO WAY any bi-partisan support would be there (and you need that) to pass mandated healthcare insurance. I think Hillary actually wants it to fail and say she "tried".

The healthcare insurance industry would win either way. That's why they are heavily funding Hillary. Follow the money.

[zulchzulu]

34. There is no way anyone is going to win it all on Tuesday

As for Hill "admitting" that wages would be garnished for mandated healthcare, where has everybody been? That's been something Obama has been saying for months.

[troubleinwinter]

37. I wonder what lead you to join DU yesterday and call a Dem candidate a name?

[catagory5]

39. uh get your facts straight OP

Edwards Health advisor just came out in favor of her plan. He said, oh forget it, I will find his quote about EVERYONE having to chip in

BRB

[troubleinwinter]

53. Wow. Too much tequila during the game? Half a post? Relating not at all to what I posted?

It has never occurred to me to begin a post subject line with "uh".

[jillan]

38. Funny that her health insurance plan and Edwards were almost identical.

Don't you remember Edwards saying she stole it from him??

[catagory5]

40. hear is your answer OP

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/health-care-advocates-den_b_84484.html

On the call they mentioned expecting this type of Republican talking points in the general election, but found Obama's mailer "very distressing" coming from a Democrat, going so far as to say it could damage the general efforts of getting universal health care going forward. On the call was former John Edwards adviser on health care, Peter Harbage. He is not joining the campaign, and he had not talked to Edwards about being part of the call. However, he believed the Obama campaign mailer "drives to the lowest common denominator." The experts on the call accused Obama of trying to "demonize" Hillary Clinton. Len Nichols, director of the health policy program fort he New America Foundation, who is also uncommitted, was particularly furious about the Obama mailer, which he feels uses the same language the insurance industry did to attack Hillary's plan in 1993. Nichols characterized the mailer as "so far over the line" that he was personally "outraged" by it. He said Obama should "retract it," retract the mailer. He went further to call it "disgusting," and called Barack Obama personally "disingenuous."

It's exactly as Ben Smith stated, showing the mailer: a flood of negative mail.

Clinton mentioned last night that the forces wanting to stop universal health care spent $300 million to attack her in 1993. Well today, Barack Obama is spending some of his big bucks to act as an agent against universal health care. He knows her plan is better. It doesn't leave 15 million people out, as well as aligns her with John Edwards. You have to wonder what he'd think about these negative and patently false mailers.

[BlackVelvet04]

41. Bammypoo better hope he does, too. n/t

[The Delegates]

42. False.

If Obama is close, tied, or ahead it is a victory for him.

[BlackVelvet04]

46. LOL keep telling yourself that......n/t

[obnoxiousdrunk]

54. Then why are you

voting for Romney ?

[ErnestoG]

44. Yeah, GarnishGate was the dumbest fucking move imaginable.

"Hey everybody! I'm ready to garnish your wages during a RECESSION!"

Yeah, there's a winning slogan.

[BlueIris]

48. Hillary's "Dean Scream" was a while back, I think.

[Bluebear]

51. Who ARE you people who keep registering at DU?

You don't introduce yourself, you don't get the feel of the place, you just come in and start your ugly threads, calling people names . . .is this the "hope" and "change" we keep hearing about?

[ForRusty]

52. Good Gods you people are hateful.

Seriously, if Hillary does get the nomination I am going to lawl out loud.