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Sun Feb-03-08 06:04 PM
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I'm Voting Edwards on Super Tuesday! |
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He is STILL on the ballot and he is STILL my candidate of choice. So far Edwards has framed the debate with the issues that matter. If he gets enough votes on Tuesday, Clinton and Obama will have no choice but to carry on his message.
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:04 PM
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1. Yeah whatever. I was an Edwards supporter, but he quit. It's over. Get over it. nt |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:07 PM
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3. again I'm voting Edwards on Super Tuesday.... |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:10 PM
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5. Waste your vote. The Repukes have just made you their #1 Favorite person of the day nt |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:16 PM
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:18 PM
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:19 PM by femmocrat
posted in wrong spot
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Sun Feb-03-08 08:05 PM
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42. YES. You must vote for either KODOS or KANG! |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:13 PM
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7. Hey Sarah, how about dropping the nasty ass |
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condescending attitude?
Just because you aren't a loyal Edwards supporter like some of us doesn't mean you have to be all sour.
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:15 PM
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8. Does Edwards have to come to your house and personally tell you he dropped out? nt |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:19 PM
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13. Just like a typical Obama supporter, spamming with |
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multiple posts.
Read unapatriciated's reason.
Edwards will still get delegates, which helps him in the negotiation department.
You're seriously unaware of that?
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:23 PM
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15. I'm an Edwards supporter who voted for Edwards in Florida. However, my ears are working.... |
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... I heard him say with his own mouth that he was quitting the race. He doesn't have to come to my house to convince me, nor say it in multiple other languages. I believe him.
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:25 PM
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16. Sara it's the message I'm voting for. |
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Primaries are such a wonderful thing, you can actually vote your conscious and still remain in the party. Whom ever wins will still get my GE vote but will also get my message.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:20 PM
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29. Maybe it's because I'm not from this country that I don't understand that sort of playing with votes |
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Don't answer that. I don't want to continue rehashing the same thing to hear the message vote thing again. Message vote is what was done by Naderites when Nader asked them to. I saw the results of that for 8 years.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:35 PM
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36. Sara.... Sara... Sara... |
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We are talking primaries here not General Elections...So there is no need to bring Nader into this.
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:15 PM
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9. Does Edwards have to come to your house and personally tell you he dropped out? nt |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:48 PM
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20. He came to my house just this morning and... |
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he said "VOTE THE MESSAGE" I thought you sent him ps. He really liked my waffles.
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:58 PM
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22. Exactly. And he told me he liked your waffles. |
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Sarah's disloyalty? Not so much.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:13 PM
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26. So you're actually going to IGNORE his endorsement??? Interesting! nt |
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:22 PM
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30. HE HASN'T ENDORSED ANYONE! |
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Why does it bother you so much that a significant number of people want to use their primary vote to make sure that Edwards' platform gets the attention it deserves? Please don't answer it's what Republicans want us to do, because that argument makes absolutely no sense. This is a primary election, a vote for Edwards does not siphon votes from Democrats in a primary because Edwards is a Democrat.
IF Edwards endorses one of the remaining candidates before my state's primary on Tuesday, I will not vote in the primary.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:27 PM
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32. Besides which, the Repugs DO NOT want anyone challenging |
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the corporations. Neither do the front runners. We need to continue to support JRE.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:34 PM
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35. I see she is in yet another thread with what I will assume |
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are mindless rants about how we are all Republicans as she doesn't know the difference between a primary and the general.
Am I close?
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Sun Feb-03-08 08:23 PM
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43. It's difficult to decipher drunk, but basically we need to |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:06 PM
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2. I'm also voting Edwards on February 5 |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:08 PM
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4. Yea, I think I still plan to do the same for a couple of reasons, |
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not the least of which you mentioned.
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:16 PM
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10. Me too. My reasons, my choice to do so. |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:10 PM
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6. I'm voting for Edwards on Tuesday as well! |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:19 PM
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14. Good for you. I am, too. |
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:29 PM
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:40 PM
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18. we have a caucus in NM & i don't know how that works |
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i still want to stand in for Edwards. otherwise i'm committed to non-voting.
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:47 PM
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It's my vote - and it belongs to John.
Thanks!
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:52 PM
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21. Even if he gets ZERO delegates on Tuesday, Edwards voters can still set the agenda |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:56 PM by jgraz
The other candidates are close enough in the polls that Edwards' votes will likely exceed the margin of victory. This means that the road to Denver goes right through the heart of Edwards Country. The candidate who manages to get the majority of Edwards supporters in the remaining states will be the nominee.
Vote your values. Vote Edwards (or Kucinich if that's your choice) and you'll see Obama and Clinton making sharp left turns after Super Tuesday.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:01 PM
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23. Will you explain this to me. If Edwards votes are more than the |
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margin of victory, then what happens? And if they are less than 15% per precinct or county, what happens to those votes?
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:08 PM
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25. If the votes are under the threshold, they are counted as votes but not as delegates |
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But if the votes manage to exceed the winner's margin of victory over the second place finisher, that means that Edwards voters are the difference-makers in upcoming elections.
For example: Let's say in California that Hillary gets 45%, Obama gets 43% and Edwards gets 8%. That means that Obama could have won California if he'd just managed to convince another 3 points' worth of Edwards voters.
If the opinion polls bear this out in the remaining 23 states, you're going to see a mad scramble for the holdout Edwards supporters. And that means a lot of pandering to progressive voters.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:38 PM
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38. And a new and fresh focus on the direction of the party's platform |
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:40 PM
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40. Got it. thank-you. I have been trying to understand. |
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But, in that exact same hypothetical CA situation, HIllary woud win, and we would only hope that she would appeal to us, right? Or do you mean that Obama, for example, would adopt a more progressive agenda in order to get leftwing votes in the remaining states after super Tuesday, because otherwise Hillary would win.
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Sun Feb-03-08 09:51 PM
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45. The risk she runs on that strategy is that the other 52% back her in the GE |
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Which is not a question so much on strategy as they have always run non a 50% + 1 scorched earth campaign.
Will be interesting to see if it works this time, or if we are able to get our voices into the mix, thus brining them back to pregressive values.
You are very correct in that, with this 50% + 1 mentality, this could embolden her.
My question is -- is this a good strategy for the party and our country?
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:04 PM
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You have the chance to vote for a candidate who supports real universal health care, an end to the war in iraq, a living wage who can beat mccain in november and you're supporting a candidate who isn't even running.
Why work for a positive change when you can complain about how bad things are? Hey, why vote at all.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:14 PM
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27. So, I guess you are voting for Edwards too.... |
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:thumbsup: cause that sure don't sound like Obama's or Clinton's policies.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:17 PM
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28. A vote for Edwards IS a vote for change |
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It's a vote telling the two leading candidates that they better goddamn start paying attention to progressive issues. The one who sounds the most progressive will end up with the most Edwards voters supporting them. If those voters exceed the margin of victory in a state, the candidates will have no choice but to veer to the left in their policy proposals.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:23 PM
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I'm voting for Edwards on Tuesday, too
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:30 PM
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33. Which candidate does all these things? |
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Doesn't sound like the corporatist front runners.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:39 PM
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39. Please see post #25 by jgraz |
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Edwards voters are not voting against anything -- we are voting our voice FOR something.
We want something out of this party -- and we want them to know it.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:33 PM
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34. Excellent! I support you for the VERY reason you noted. |
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it's about as useful as what you're going to do with your vote.
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:46 PM
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41. Fuck corporate whore candidates, I'll vote for John Edwards on Feb 12 a real Democrat. |
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48. My voice, my vote, my ballot. I will vote for John Edwards on Tuesday. |
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