HRC calls out Obama saying he "didn't face anyone who ran attack ads against him,"

[peacebird]

Clinton, 60, of New York, said on ABC's ``This Week'' that she is better able to withstand Republican attacks and attract voters who ``know how serious the issues are that we face.''

``In his prior election in Illinois, Senator Obama didn't face anyone who ran attack ads against him,'' she said, referring to Obama's Senate race. ``He ran against a very weak opponent, without resources or credibility.''
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080203/pl_bloomberg/akpicpihizpi;_ylt=Ah8F.8Dg4jColPuY4BzpLp2s0NUE
:eyes:


SHE obviously is completely used to attacks, and that is her point - problem is: she continues on to say "`He ran against a very weak opponent, without resources or credibility.''
:wtf:
At what point does she realize that Obama is now running against the famous "Clinton Machine" and doing amazingly well? He's running against her and everything she & Bill can throw at him... I think Obama has been proven quite strong. And I think her using this arguement makes her look a little desperate.

[tokenlib]

1. I think Michelle just responded in L.A....

Whew!

[jkshaw]

5. Too right, Token!

[Barack_America]

24. Yes she did...and then some! n/t

[yourout]

2. you mean other than Hillary?

[BlueStateGirl]

3. I think she has point. He ran against Alan Keyes for the love of

God.

It is not to say that he can't withstand the attacks, but honestly he has never had too.

She has. And I don't think he is running against EVERYTHING she and Bill can throw against him. This really is kids stuff compared to the General. And I think, if he is the nominee, the Repubs will have to get nasty. I support Hillary, but I think the Repubs would have a harder time beating Sen. Obama. They will be merciless. He has never faced that. And the so called "Clinton Machine" is nothing compared to that.

[rodeodance]

6. I wonder how few really know he ran against keyes. bet very few. but glad she

did not mention his name.

[NJSecularist]

Who did Hillary run against?

Rick Lazio? ROFLMAO!

She got bailed out when Rudy needed to leave the race because of cancer.

She has never faced a legitimate opponent either.

[BlueStateGirl]

15. Senator Obama has never had to withstand a Republican

onslaught. Forget about campaigns. The RW in the this country has made a cottage industry out of attacking Hillary Clinton and her husband . Get back to me when RW radio spends two years accusing Obama of murder, or Jerry Falwell releases the Obama Chronicles, or the Obama children are savaged by the right. Barak Obama has never been in the arena the Clintons have been in. Ever. Not even close. And if anyone thinks the Republicans won't attack Mr. Hope and Change the way they attacked the Clintons is living a dream world. And one thing the "Clinton Machine" has proven is that they can take it.

[Cass]

20. Very well said. nt

[blm]

22. Clinton machine was MIA the last 7 yrs when Dem issues and Dem candidates were being

attacked constantly.

Where was the Clinton machine then if it refused to work FOR all Dems?

The CLINTON MACHINE showed up at various times when Bush was under attack - they supported Bush.

The CLINTON MACHINE showed up when Scooter Libby was under attack - they supported Scooter Libby.

The CLINTON MACHINE showed up when Lieberman was being attacked - they supported Lieberman.

[BlueStateGirl]

26. May I ask you what your post has to do with anything I posted?

What does anything you posted have to do with whether or not Barak Obama is as equipped as Hillary Clinton to withstand the RW attacks that are surely coming in the GE?

[blm]

27. Point being is that Clinton MACHINE only works for Clintons and the Dem PARTY be damned.

Dem ISSUES be damned.

Dem CANDIDATES be damned.

Dem NOMINEES be damned.

Dem VOTERS be damned.

THAT is what you want to continue for our party? That's exactly the way Vushes operated in the Republican party. Set up a machine to only service their agenda at the expense of the party.

[BlueStateGirl]

28. Perhaps I do not agree with you? Could it possibly be that simple?

Maybe I don't see the Clintons the same way you do?

I like Senator Obama. I will cheerfully vote for him if he is the nominee. You will not see me attack him or his supporters. It at I just that I prefer Senator Clinton to Senator Obama. And one of those reasons is that I believe she is better equipped to deal with the coming Republican attacks. She has been living with them for 16 years.

[blm]

30. Maybe you should read the National Security Archives, because it's not OPINION

about the Clintons' constant protection of the Bushes, it is a FACT. And it has blown back against our party and this nation in horrific ways.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Truth Matters.

[BlueStateGirl]

31. Okay , so I read the first page of your link and what I got from it

is that Bill Clinton didn't aggressively follow up on reagan Bush scandals because he wanted a more united country,and he realized that he would have to work with Repubs and he wanted to foster a spirit of bipartisanship. Wow. Who does that sound like? I don't exactly hear Obama attacking Bush... ever.... or calling for impeachment. In fact, he wants to reach out to Repubs and independents in the spirit of a more united country. Let's hope, if he is elected, he is not rewarded for it the same way Clinton was.

If there is something more specific at this link you would like me to read, could you kindly direct me to it?

[blm]

32. Yeah, except Clinton's political benefactor in Arkansas was Jackson Stephens.

Jackson Stephens who staked WalMart. Jackson Stephens whose longtime ally was GHWBush and they both brought BCCI into this country. BCCI was only the biggest terrorist funding operation in the world.

GHWBush expected to be impeached after BCCI report was released in Dec 1992. Jackson Stephens underwrote Bill Clinton's primary campaign. GHWBush runds the worst campaign in history, BCCI report is handed to incoming president Clinton. The report and all its outstanding matters are deep-sixed throughout the 90s. Matters involving Stephens, Marc Rich, AQ Khan, Bin Ladens, Dubai and Saudi royals.

Nothing for Americans to be concerned about, eh?

The BCCI report can be easily found with any search. Its list of Outstanding Matters at the end is very educational for those who care about their country.

[Jai4WKC08]

4. I think the Repubs will be FAR worse than anything Hillary has thrown at him

She really hasn't just made shit up out of whole cloth and then spent millions of dollars making sure every American hears the lies over and over until their ears bleed.

You may believe the Clintons are making shit up too. But even if they are, it is NOTHING like what the Repubs will do.

[billbuckhead]

7. The media has helped Obama in every way they could and he's STILL behind

[VotesForWomen]

29. correct. nt

[K Gardner]

8. Talk to the hand, Hill... cuz nobody's listenin any longer..

[intheozone]

14. Nobody, really? Seriously, you want to make such a stupid

statement that is so obviously wrong. You pulled that right out of your ass, didn't you. Just go away while the grown-ups talk.

[Tom Rinaldo]

9. If you believe the Clinton Campaign went negative on Obama

You might as well believe in the tooth fairy also. That's the point. This is a Democratic Primary race. Only Democrats are voting now, and any campaign that is thought to go too negative on a fellow Democrat while appealing for Democratic votes risks being rejected for that reason alone. The rules are VERY different against the Republicans in the General Election.

Having said that you have a good point. Obama has run an effective campaign for the type of race he now is in against Clinton. But Hillary Clinton does has a good point. Obama has never remotely been in the type of contest that he will face in November.

[Araxen]

10. If Obama can take the Clinton's attacks

and come out on top. He'll be fine. This is just dumb for her to say. Going up against the Clinton's is the best test anyone can get.

[blm]

11. WHERE was Clinton 'machine' that Dems PAID FOR for years while BushRove were attacking

Dems and Dem issues and smearing every Democrat who stuck their necks out to oppose Bush the last 7 years?

Clintons stood WITH Bush publicly on the biggest issues of the last 3 election cycles.

[Whisp]

19. damn straight, blm. n/t

[Straight Shooter]

23. Where was the machine that's supporting Barack now?

Where was the Kennedy/Kerry machine?

Kennedy stood side-by-side with bush on NCLB. Kerry never got the Kennedy machine in action to counteract the Swiftboaters. Whatever effort they made, it failed.

[blm]

25. They showed UP for most every battle and never expected to have to fight Clinton machine

that was throwing IN to protect Bush at every serious battle.

Clinton machine showed up to defend Bush on terrorism and Iraq war decisions, and Bill Clinton LED the machine on that support of Bush.

Clinton machine showed up to defend Scooter Libby.

Clinton machine showed up to defend Joe Lieberman.

Clinton machine showed up to join Bush's lie against Kerry.

Where was the Clinton machine on ToraBora? Call for Rumsfeld's firing in 2003-4? Downing Street Memos? Alito filibuster? Iraq withdrawal? They would NEVER SHOW UP for any of these battles.

[bigtree]

12. Obama hasn't seen the republican campaign against him yet, he's a virtual unknown to most Americans

It would/will be whithering.

[cali]

18. no, actually he isn't a virtual unknow to most Americans. Not anymore

and that's withering- no h.

[Cha]

13. Pick up yourself hilary...you're

down in the slimey sewer where mark penn resides..nice goin' ,but I saw that in you..way back in 2002.

[stevietheman]

16. Yeah, she faced them, and folded. No thanks.

Time to try a leader. Obama.

[Skidmore]

17. Sad when the highest someone can look up is only to gutter level.

Just plain sad.

[Life Long Dem]

21. Funny, she just accused Obama of "looking for a fight" a couple debates ago.

Besides that, she is one to talk about the issues. This whole campaign she has been doing anythig to avoid answering questions. She has planted audience questions, she was going to laugh off the remaining campaign answers (nobody liked her laugh), new tatic, attack Obama repeatedly for weeks,you see the pattern here.