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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:33 PM
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Can you name one time Clinton 'MACHINE' took on BushRove the last 7 years
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:36 PM by blm
in any public way against the smears and attacks they launched against Democrats in DC, on Dem issues, or on Dem candidates being smeared in 2002, like Cleland and Siegelman, or 2004, Daschle and Kerry and Dean, or 2006 like Ned Lamont?

When did the MACHINE turn its sights on Bush-Rove's machine and fire?

Bonus Questions: How many times did you see Clinton MACHINE defending Bush against Democrats?

How many times did you see Clinton MACHINE defend Scooter Libby?

How many times did you see Clinton MACHINE defend Lieberman?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:36 PM
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1. They were keeping their powder dry for Kerry and Obama.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:39 PM
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2. No, but I can remember when Bill Clinton defended Bush over
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:39 PM by Skwmom
Katrina. They were on Larry King. LK asked a softball question about people criticizing Bush. Bush (the elder) turned to Clinton and said you take this (and Clinton did, defending Bush's handling of Katrina).

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:50 PM
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5. Clinton defended Bush publicly for the entire 3weeks of his 2004 booktour
where he boasted of defending Bush from the criticisms of the 'left' on his decisions for Iraq war.

The problem is that Kerry, the Dem NOMINEE, was attacking Bush on his decisions on terrorism and Iraq war throughout that time.

Bill Clinton consistently sided with Bush during broadcast and print interviews that entire time.

Bill Clinton FORGOT in his book and in his interviews that the leading lawmaker in DC on the issue of terrorism, tracking networks and their funding, was John Kerry.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

How many really believe that Clinton was so politically naive he didn't 'realize' what he was doing then?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:01 PM
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7. Hey don't you know? The left is the real enemy
We've been Sister Soljah'ed since the early 1990's.

Get your mind right. Bush is misunderstood. Liberals and progressives are the enemy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:39 AM
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19. No kidding. The fighting against the RW was dog and pony theater while the fascists
were growing their agenda around the world throughout the 90s.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:40 PM
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3. The Indonesian earthquake
Bush did nothing.

Bill took the lead.

Recruited Bush's father.

The American press may have ignored it, but the international press sure noticed it -- for over a year.

--p!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:56 PM
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6. Gee, there's a controversial issue that Clinton showed true courage on.
Not. :eyes:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:06 PM
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8. I thought it was "name me one issue"
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 07:07 PM by Pigwidgeon
Now you want a controversial issue.

Bill Clinton has raised quite a bit of money for the poor. Probably over a billion dollars. But relieving poverty isn't "sexy" enough for you.

It doesn't fit in with your affluent world-view, does it?

Sorry about that. I'll know better next time.

--p!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:16 PM
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9. The OP is about whether they have taken on the Bush/Rove machine
Neither of your examples fit the OP's question.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:24 PM
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10. Clinton *humiliated* Bush
The foreign press was beside itself in glee over it.

Recruiting Poppy Bush was like pushing the Boy-King's face in a cow turd and giving it a twist.

I don't know how you missed that. It was a Big Deal here, too.

What is it you wanted to see? Bill Clinton calling George Bush a "lamer" and saying Laura was ugly?

--p!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:29 PM
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11. Bush humiliates himself daily. You'll have to set the bar higher.
Did the Clintons EVER go after Bush/Rove about the kinds of things the OP mentioned?

Hint: "Rove" is the key word there.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:39 PM
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15. Clintons couldn't find anything BushRove did that was objectionable to spur their machine
into action. But Kerry sure did.

For some reason Carville thought he needed to warn the WH on election night:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


And Hillary just KNEW Bush needed her to side with him against Kerry in 2006:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:49 PM
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16. One serious BATTLE on an issue. Surely you recall ONE SERIOUS BATTLE over the
last 7 years that Bush waged against the Dems - well where was the Clinton machine taking on that battle?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:50 PM
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12. THAT was a Democratic ISSUE under attack by the BushRove machine?
What do you use as your primary source of education on government matters?
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:43 PM
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4. Doesn't this photo answer the question?
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:18 PM
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13. K&R
Everyone here should also remember that the Big Dawg stopped all the investigations into the crimes of the Reagan/Bush regime.

The result was much worse than pardoning them, because it brought doubt and plausible deniability to the question of their guilt.

Those same criminals are STILL at large, corrupting everything they can get their hands on, which unfortunately is everything.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:33 PM
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14. Yes - EVERYTHING happening today is blowback from Clinton's protection of Poppy Bush
throughout the 90s.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

They should've been jailed by the end of 1994, not planning their WH return in 2000.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:52 PM
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17. also notice the DLC emerged same time the Neo Cons did?
just wondering about that. Seems like we've been conned.

And the DLC is PRO Iraq War.

Oh and Hillay is DLC, she didn't vote for the war by accident.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:18 PM
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18. No. Bill WANTED to go into Iraq in 98, but the ALLIES wouldn't agree and he wouldn't
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:18 PM by blm
go without them.

The allies only agreed to go in with Bush because of 9-11 and fucking Tony Blair siding with Bush on EVERYTHING under the advisement he was getting from......BIL CLINTON.
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