I didn't recognize this site for what it was.....I'm sorry...self delete

[ElsewheresDaughter]

[Dogmudgeon]

1. It wasn't dumping, it was RIGHTSIZING

Only Hillary dumps.

--p!

[golddigger]

2. ...

:popcorn:

[Neecy]

3. nice...

This video, as well as the 'obamatruth' website, was produced by a well-known right-wing operative. Sad that this goddamn trash is pimped on a Democratic site.

[BlueStateGirl]

11. Why ?Dick Morris and Drudge are routinely used as sources

for anti Hillary posts. Not too mention Andrew Sullivans and Chris Hitchens.

I agree with you, but both sides do it when it suites them.

[Neecy]

14. this crap is a new low

And I'd object if an anti-Hillary video made by a RW smear merchant was circulated here. This shit has no place on this site.

[Nitrogenica]

12. Who is the "well known right wing operative"?

Let's call this out. I'll R&D it. We do not swiftboat our own.

[NightWatcher]

15. his name is Joe Novak, he registered the domain

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


http://alternet.org/blogs/peek/47168
A new smear website, whose name and URL I won't dignify with publicity, is running with a fairly professional-looking smear video against potential '08 candidate for president, Barack Obama.

Fox has already been burned by their attempted, and debunked, smear.

Now the further right is trying its hand.

Turns out the site is registered to one "Joe Novak," who's known, according to the Chicago Sun Times, as "Low Blow Joe" for his dirty tactics.

IF this is the same Joe Novak, that is. Though given the fact that this Novak runs Wherethemoneygoes.com and that the smear site includes a link of theirs may provide a clue...

Novak, as of August, 2006, worked for:

"Indianapolis insurance mogul J. Patrick Rooney, a right-wing ideologue who has poured millions into GOP causes, especially the so-called Health Savings Accounts, which theoretically would help Americans obtain affordable insurance, but in reality would benefit the healthy and wealthy at the expense of the sick and poor."


"Rooney is no friend of the Illinois Hospital Association, which has made bipartisan campaign donations to the tune of $615,000, including money to both Blagojevich and his Republican opponent Judy Baar Topinka."

Coincidentally, this latest smear campaign focuses inordinately on Obama's wife and her position in the health care industry.

Novak's benefactor Rooney also just happened to be one of the bigger funders behind the sickeningly racist GOP ads leading up the '06 elections. Here's one:


Michael: And if you make a little mistake with one of your ho’s, you’ll want to dispose of that problem toot sweet, no questions asked, right?


Dennis: Naw, that’s too cold. I don’t snuff my own seed …


Michael: Huh. Really? (pause) Well, maybe you do have a reason to vote Republican!

But let's be honest about what we're witnessing here: Terror in the hearts of the GOP and its fellow travelers.

And terror is something with which they're very intimate....

[Neecy]

16. see reponse #9

I researched this as well when this video was posted in the Political Videos forum, and it was removed.

[MediaBabe]

23. So what part of it isn't true? n/t

[Neecy]

27. here

http://obamarama.org/2007/01/25/the-truth-about-obamatruthorg

[MediaBabe]

32. Post a link and no summary in your words? What's that all about?

Isn't that what the point here is, that a link can be a biased source? Just tell me what you think is erroneous about the OP.

[Lerkfish]

4. desperate, pathetic, transparent

do you sleep well?

[Name removed]

5. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[still_one]

13. Not a troll, a Clinton supporter who realizes that this primary is not what they thought it would be

[Name removed]

17. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[still_one]

21. I didn't go to the link, I just assumed it was nerves or sour grapes

thanks for the heads up

[Name removed]

22. Deleted message

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[still_one]

24. Magic? WOW!!!

[MediaBabe]

30. Other than where it's linked to,

What isn't true about the post?

Sometimes folks don't know which sites are right and which are left. I sure don't always know.

But, if it is the truth, shouldn't that be addressed as well as the link? Does it always have to be a matter of who we can slam rather than the content of the remarks?

[Name removed]

33. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[MediaBabe]

36. If it is the truth, shouldn't that be addressed

It's real easy to duck the hard questions by claiming that everyone is a troll.

What about the hospital dumping and the subsequent fine isn't true?

[The Delegates]

6. Yes but...

Does she want to steal your money?

[Endangered Specie]

7. Well its only fair if people can go after Bill, they can go after Michelle too

way to really dirty up this race people!

[rodeodance]

18. BINGO---all we hear on this board is goddess talk when it comes to her!

[graywarrior]

8. Dear god. . .

Good thing I took anger management courses

[NightWatcher]

9. that website is GOP swiftboating Bull Shit. Please stop using it here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


http://alternet.org/blogs/peek/47168
A new smear website, whose name and URL I won't dignify with publicity, is running with a fairly professional-looking smear video against potential '08 candidate for president, Barack Obama.

Fox has already been burned by their attempted, and debunked, smear.

Now the further right is trying its hand.

Turns out the site is registered to one "Joe Novak," who's known, according to the Chicago Sun Times, as "Low Blow Joe" for his dirty tactics.

IF this is the same Joe Novak, that is. Though given the fact that this Novak runs Wherethemoneygoes.com and that the smear site includes a link of theirs may provide a clue...

Novak, as of August, 2006, worked for:

"Indianapolis insurance mogul J. Patrick Rooney, a right-wing ideologue who has poured millions into GOP causes, especially the so-called Health Savings Accounts, which theoretically would help Americans obtain affordable insurance, but in reality would benefit the healthy and wealthy at the expense of the sick and poor."


"Rooney is no friend of the Illinois Hospital Association, which has made bipartisan campaign donations to the tune of $615,000, including money to both Blagojevich and his Republican opponent Judy Baar Topinka."

Coincidentally, this latest smear campaign focuses inordinately on Obama's wife and her position in the health care industry.

Novak's benefactor Rooney also just happened to be one of the bigger funders behind the sickeningly racist GOP ads leading up the '06 elections. Here's one:


Michael: And if you make a little mistake with one of your ho’s, you’ll want to dispose of that problem toot sweet, no questions asked, right?


Dennis: Naw, that’s too cold. I don’t snuff my own seed …


Michael: Huh. Really? (pause) Well, maybe you do have a reason to vote Republican!

But let's be honest about what we're witnessing here: Terror in the hearts of the GOP and its fellow travelers.

And terror is something with which they're very intimate....

[stillrockin]

10. oh puh-leeze . . .

[The_Casual_Observer]

19. Who made Mrs. Obama Our Lady of Guadalupe anyway?

It's like the second coming around here anymore.

[Straight Shooter]

20. This doesn't help Hillary, and it agitates Barack's supporters.

Please don't post these type of incendiary unreliable articles.

[zulchzulu]

28. Bingo!

PM that person and tell him/her to get another hobby...

[zulchzulu]

25. Yet ANOTHER Asshat for Hillary with another half-wit, non-linked "comment"

You people are getting old and stale.

[Bread and Circus]

26. What did the OP say? apparently he/she deleted it,,,

[leeroysphitz]

29. Does she also want the IRS to garnish the wages of those who opt out of

of her healthcare scheme?

[NMMNG]

31. I see they got to you

It's bad around here of late unless you fall down and worship the Almighty.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

34. it appears the site is def slimely and rw ......they did't get to me ...Hillary is the better choice

[NMMNG]

35. I mean they pounced on you like tigers on raw meat

That's what happens if you don't say something nice about Obama. There's no more rational discourse here, you can only speak nice of Obama or pay the price.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. so itseems...but I say...FUCK THAT !

[NMMNG]

40. That's about where I am at this point

I've had it with the mess. Alert, Ignore and Hide Thread are my friends. Anybody who is interested only in disruption and attacking rather than actual discussion is not worthy of my attention.

[NightWatcher]

41. thanks for editing the post and noting that the website was garbage

I'm more than happy to debate with you. It gives you more credability in my book.

A sincere thanks

[ElsewheresDaughter]

42. this Clinton hatred and attacks have to end...it is disgusting and so PNAC/Rove ...PUKE

[MediaBabe]

38. I wish you hadn't deleted The topic was valid

I'm sure we could find a satisfactory site to link to. We always do. The truth is usually pretty easy to verify.

[ellisonz]

39. Woof Woof.

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