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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:46 PM
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Poll question: The statement "Going after their wages" is?
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 07:47 PM by Bread and Circus
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:47 PM
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1. Other: Have you stopped beating your wife? n/t
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:48 PM
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3. :P
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:48 PM
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2. Republicans will jump all over it.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:48 PM
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4. i think it's only minor
for the primary.
in the general however, it's huge. she'll get nailed for that.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:49 PM
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5. Our health care system is broken.
Telling the truth about a hard reality may be painful for a few, but we'll all be better off once it get fixed.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:50 PM
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6. For someone touting their 35 years of experience...a HUGE gaffe. eom
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:51 PM
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8. And right before Super Tuesday, too. Wow. n/t
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:57 PM
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11. 35 yrs of getting it wrong.......again, man is she out of touch with America
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:50 PM
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7. Other: a great line for a Springsteen/Seeger sessions band song
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:54 PM
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9. Eventually, the rubber has to meet the road.
Now granted, there are better, more diplomatic, smoother ways to say it, but if we want universal health care, we have to pay for it somehow.

Obama and Clinton both, to a greater or lesser extent, and to greater and lesser subsets of the population (Obama would enforce mandatory insurance for children with his plan, Clinton would do it for everyone) would make health insurance mandatory, and make paying for it mandatory.

That involves making laws, and making consequences for not obeying the laws.

Personally, I think it would be more painless for most people if we say increased the FICA tax, took payment for the health care system from that, so your average Joe Employee doesn't have to think about it.

But eventually if someone doesn't pay into the system, that hurts everyone, thus the consequences.

Yeah. It could have been said without using words that state you'll be "going after people's wages."
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:03 PM
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13. FICA, mandates,
wage garnishments, whatever. It's more regressive taxation of the middle class.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:09 PM
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14. Yeah. T'would be nice if Bush's tax cuts for the rich were repealed.
Maybe turned up the capital gains tax a notch to pay for this.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:56 PM
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10. I think it's odd that no one asked Hillary about this before...
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 07:58 PM by TwoSparkles
She has a mandate for low income earners. That means senior citizens on fixed incomes.
That means people on disability who must live off of $700 per month. That means single
mothers living in poverty.

How in the hell can you "mandate" that they buy something and call that "universal
coverage"? You can mandate that low-income earners purchase something. That
doesn't mean they will.

So, she finally says it...that she'll garnish wages.

That's ludicrous. You're going to take food out of the mouths of children, just so you can
say, "My plan covers everyone!" Her quest to have the "My plan covers everyone!" soundbyte
has bit her in the ass.

Not a wise plan. Not a wise political move.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:59 PM
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12. I thought Obama was about hard truths and shit.
Or was that line abandoned on the trash heap of political slogans.
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