fuzzy otter pop
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Sun Feb-03-08 09:02 PM
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Hillery has not been 'vetted' |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 09:58 PM by fuzzy otter pop
lots of bad thing have been said about her but this is the first time she has run for president just cause some people are aware of some stuff that was said 10 years ago does not mean it wont have an impact again
the real test will come in August and September with bumper to bumper coverage of white water travel gate, the rose law firm scandal, a Monica redux, and more to come
believe it, it will happen
if you don't remember some of these scandals start reading up, because she played a major role in every single one of them
simply put there is just no way she can win after the whole nation is drug through a rehash of this filth
they will smear her back to the stone ages and it will stick because she has demonstrated repeatedly that she is a corporate cash powered ambition machine and people will start to remember all this stuff from the past
(if they ever heard at all, surprise, surprise, the public has a short memory and no attention span, people will say "she did what????, i don't remember that...., that changes everything!!" )
people will believe it this time also because it all seems like stuff she might do, you know, like work for wal-mart.....
the repuke hate machine will be on full tilt
with McCain caped on spending these smear attacks will all be independent expenditures and out of control the crazy bastard, (McCain) will simultaneously befit from them and denounce them as the problem with $$$ in politics
its a slam dunk win for him
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Sun Feb-03-08 09:06 PM
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I just read another thread about politically active TROLLS.You didn't waste much time did you.
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fuzzy otter pop
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Sun Feb-03-08 09:18 PM
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2. i have campaigned for democratic candidates since 1988, so you are half right |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 09:20 PM by fuzzy otter pop
this seems like rough stuff but it is truth,
hard and real
sorry
dispute the facts,
make a case
don't just call me names
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fuzzy otter pop
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Sun Feb-03-08 09:27 PM
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i was an Edwards supporter, and i was not going to score cheap points while my guy was still
running
but now
i must bring this stuff up
these are things the we need to address
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Sun Feb-03-08 11:01 PM
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16. ee cummings is posting at DU now? |
fuzzy otter pop
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Sun Feb-03-08 11:09 PM
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19. now thats a complement |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:10 PM by fuzzy otter pop
i have yet
to have received,
my nick name in law school is
RanSOme NOte
for my hand writing skills
or lack thereof
as it were
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Kermitt Gribble
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:03 PM
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4. You're completely wrong on this, I hate to tell you. |
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The pukes tried to bring the Clintons down with all of this crap and it didn't work. Bill still has a 70%+ approval rating, as he did when he left office. Hillary was elected overwhemlingly twice in New York. The pukes don't have anything left to attack her with. Obama is fresh meat to them.
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fuzzy otter pop
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:07 PM
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5. For the last time BILL IS NOT RUNNING |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:09 PM by fuzzy otter pop
and
how exactly could they have brought Hillery down?
you can't impeach the first lady!!!!!
so she won in New York.... big whoop
this is her first time as a presidential candidate
it all will come up again
and it will do damage to her
BTW
Obama is vulnerable, but so what????
to say she isn't is willful blindness
at least with Obama you have a fighting chance just not a great one
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:12 PM
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fuzzy otter pop
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:14 PM
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8. thanks, i was confused with the other one running for president |
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:13 PM
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7. I didn't say Bill was running. |
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You posted issues the rw attacked Bill on, so I showed you how it didn't affect the public's opinion of him. These issues have been hashed over and over again. They didn't work the first time, the pukes are smart enough to know they won't work again - aparently, you aren't.
It's not hard to see your whole purpose at DU is to attack Hillary.
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:19 PM
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10. she was deeply involved in all of it and they will attack her again |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:28 PM by fuzzy otter pop
i am just trying to make the point that she is vulnerable in a major way on these things
no one wants to recognize these facts
or is even willing to try to explain why they wont do her damage
swift boat style.
and just saying because Bill is popular
is not an answer to the question
she had an active role here and they will pound on it over and over again
and as usual
we have no response
except to say "she was vetted!!! no fair!!!"
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:15 PM
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9. Good thing no one named "Hillery" is running |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:16 PM by jlake
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fuzzy otter pop
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:28 PM
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11. OHHHH that is what really matters..... |
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that little mistake proves me wrong!!!
you sure are smart and i am soooo stupid....
guess you win.
cause spelling bees are what the average American cares about
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:29 PM
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12. I just can't trust analysis from someone who doesn't know the candidates names. |
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If you can't get her name right, how can you be right on deep issues?
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:42 PM
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13. so my spell checker got it wrong, |
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i already told you that you were far superior to me what more do want????
see i am soooo stoooopid you will have to spell it out for me....
get it?
or is that joke to dumb for you????
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:45 PM
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14. Who are you rooting for in the election? |
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Sun Feb-03-08 10:59 PM
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15. i caucused for Edwards, here in Nevada |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:04 PM by fuzzy otter pop
now i am hoping for the better of the two to pull it out
i think it is Obama right now
for two reasons
One, Hillary's past will be a tremendous liability no matter what anyone says, i have seen it before (remember the war hero Kerry)
Two, the youth voters that have turned out for Obama are truly a phenomenon that could change the electoral map for a generation
they may also carry him to victory in November with a lot of luck, and hours of hard work
even a lost effort for Obama would make this a better party
and a Hillary victory could end up being Pyhrric in so much as she will become a constant target and she would be hard to defend
at least for me
Ps sorry to get snippy but i am dyslexic and disgraphic with some of the adhd as well(but IQ 143) its like have a VW beetle with a nascar engine in it i get a little frustrated sometimes and spelling critics get me down
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Sun Feb-03-08 11:01 PM
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17. If Hillary is nominated.... |
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1) most Democrats will vote for her, but a smaller than expected turnout 2) you can forget about high voter turnouts among blacks and young voters 3) the repubs will go the polls in record numbers to vote against Hillary 4) the repuke slime machine will have a wide variety of old, previously established memes established about Hillary to choose from...in addition to any new memes they may invent. Hillary does not come off better because many independents already believe the old memes and this will make it even more easy to believe any new ones that will be established 5) it is illogical and almost incoherent babbling to assume that the repubs will not establish new memes about hillary just because they have already been successful in establishing old memes about hillary. 6) hillary will not be able to use the issue of iraq against mccain because mccain would be able to throw her iwr vote against her and point out she is only flip-flopping because the political winds have changed...whereas mccain stuck with iraq even when unpopular. 7) hillary will not be able to cry if things get tough and have it improve her polls, like it did just before NH
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Sun Feb-03-08 11:06 PM
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18. harsh, and a little sad |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:13 PM by fuzzy otter pop
but oHio so true....
i really like number 5
point by point you are spot on
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